After years of enduring sloppy imitators which offer patchy performance and incomplete compatibility, we're finally seeing clone consoles come of age. The RetroN 5 leveraged the versatility of Google's Android platform to offer HD visuals and save state support, while the super-premium Analogue NT took existing Nintendo chips and placed them inside an aircraft-grade aluminum casing. Even Nintendo itself has woken up to the notion of reproducing vintage hardware with the NES Mini, which offers 30 titles out of the box but lacks the ability to use original carts. There are clearly plenty of options if you're looking for a means of rediscovering Nintendo's 8-bit wonder, and RetroUSB's AVS is another choice you may want to consider if you have an existing stash of games and want to run them on your HD television.
The moment you lay eyes on the AVS (the name is a playful tribute to the original NES prototype, which was called the Advanced Video System) it's obvious that RetroUSB has done its homework when it comes to pure aesthetics. While the wedge-shape design is a peculiar departure, there are plenty of references to the legendary NES hardware, including almost identical power and reset buttons, the iconic cartridge slot flap and even grooves on the bottom which mimic those seen on the original system. The sturdy plastic it's made from even feels like the real deal - many other clones suffer from flimsy case construction but the AVS is as assured as they come in terms of build quality, at least for an unofficial option.
The design may take inspiration from the NES but the AVS isn't just limited to Western software. In addition to the NES cart slot - into which you insert games horizontally, just like in the old days - there's a vertically-orientated port for Japanese Famicom carts. Having the best of both worlds is a real boon and something that the CyberGadget Retro Freak doesn't offer, but when using Famicom carts the plastic flap has to remain open, which looks a little odd but is hardly a deal breaker.
The AVS differs from other clones because it doesn't use emulation or reclaimed hardware - it has a custom Field-Programmable Gate Array (FPGA) chip which accurately simulates the performance of the original NES console on a hardware level. This means that the common video and audio niggles which blight clones like the RetroDuo and RetroN 3 are absent and compatibility is superb. While it doesn't offer the purity of the repurposed hardware which sits inside the Analogue NT, it's a cheaper and more sustainable option (the forthcoming Analogue NT Mini adopts the same approach) and in terms of pure performance, there's little reason to complain with the AVS. It behaves just like the original console, despite not having the original hardware inside it.
The system outputs 720p over a HDMI connection, and the results are stunning - despite the lack of 1080p. If you're coming to the AVS with memories of your original NES then it's like seeing these games with a totally fresh pair of eyes; the fuzzy visuals we were forced to endure during the days of RF are replaced by pin-sharp pixels with gorgeous colours. It's possible to drop into the settings menu and adjust pixel proportions, fix overscan problems, add scanlines and even solve the infamous NES sprite flicker - caused by a limitation in the number of sprites the original hardware could display on a single scanline - by enabling the "Extra Sprites" option, should you want to. Another bonus of the AVS is the fact that it has Game Genie cheat codes baked into the hardware, as well as online leaderboards which require you to connect the console to a PC or Mac. The firmware can also be updated using this connection, which means RetroUSB can add more features in the future, if it so wishes.
The lack of legacy connections might come as a blow to truly serious NES players - there are no composite, RF or SCART options here - but the fact that the unit is powered via a USB connection is quite handy. A USB PSU is included but if your TV has USB ports then you can use those to run the console, which frees up a plug socket for other things.
While we naturally weren't able to test every single NES and Famicom game, during our review period compatiblity was never anything but flawless. There are no graphical issues (aside from those which exist in the original hardware, such as the aforementioned sprite flicker) and the audio is also faithful - something which isn't always the case with clone consoles. Those of you who favour flash carts will be pleased to learn that the AVS is fully compatible with products such as the popular Everdrive N8, which neither the Retro Freak or RetroN 5 support. Interestingly, RetroUSB has also released a selection of "new" NES games alongside the AVS, including Twelve Seconds, Solaris and A Winner is You, the latter of which is actually an "album on a cart" which contains classic video game cover versions recorded using real instruments.
The biggest problem we have with the console could either be considered a non-issue or a major oversight, depending on your outlook. NES joypad ports are included but there's no controller in the box - you'll have to source you own. This isn't a massive headache if you already have a NES console, but newcomers could be caught short by the omission. On the plus side, there are four controller ports which means the console has out-of-the-box support for Four Score games, such as Bomberman II, Gauntlet II and NES Play Action Football. Another plus is the presence of the 15-pin Famicom expansion socket on the back, and it's also possible to connect the Famicom Disk System to the machine.
With a price tag of $185, the AVS sits somewhere between the NES Mini ($60) and Analogue NT Mini ($450), and is more expensive than the RetroN 5, a machine that boasts support for more systems. While the cost also places it above some of the cheaper NES clones on the market, the results are more than worth the price of admission for purists. Sure, it's 720p instead of 1080p, but when you're dealing with such pixel-heavy visuals that hardly matters, while the lack of a controller in the box is something that is only likely to annoy those who are coming to the AVS totally cold - and given its nostalgic focus, we'd guess that most prospective buyers have a few old NES pads lying around the house.
The unofficial nature of the AVS and its higher price tag will no doubt ensure that it is comfortably eclipsed by the NES Mini in terms of sales figures, but if you're genuinely serious about resurrecting Nintendo's 8-bit system in your household, then this is by far the better choice. It may lack the 30 built-in games and requires you to invest in carts - many of which are steadily increasing in price on the second hand market - but the video quality, performance, design and support for four players are sure to make this a tempting purchase for dedicated fans who wish to give their existing collection of carts a new lease of life.
Also, it's impossible to deny that a huge part of retro gaming's appeal is searching out hidden gems and expanding your knowledge through fresh purchases, and that's simply not going to be possible on the NES Mini. Nintendo's official option may come loaded with solid-gold classics, but it denies you the opportunity to fully explore the console's rich library of physical carts - some of which will never be re-released due to licensing issues. With that in mind, the AVS comes highly recommended.
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Might have to check out a few local pawn shops to see what old games they have lying around. My Library is long gone. I really, really, need to stop selling back my old games.
The Famicom Disk System didn't use the FC expansion connector. It connected solely through the cartridge slot (through a cable permanently attached to the FDS "RAM Adapter" cart). (which meant it needed a flat surface for the 1/2-height T-shaped cart to fit)
If they were to release a SNES variation I would consider it. My Retron 5 does the job pretty well but every now and again you get a compatibility niggle.
Looks like a really solid piece of kit. My only gripe, and it's the same one I've had since the first time it was shown, is that I really don't think these kinds of fan consoles need to be so big in this day and age, but it still looks cool regardless. For fans of playing original NES games on proper hardware I imagine this would be an extremely attractive value proposition.
The price tag is very doable.
So people are okay with emulators if they're loaded onto a custom processing unit in a plastic case designed to look like the thing they're emulating, huh? Sure, at that price point it's only going to really attract those who have original game carts (you could still use a flash cart to load homebrew or pirated roms... but if you were going to do that anyway you'd probably use a PC). I just think it's a funny double standard.
It is a real shame the NES Mini is locked to those 30 games, Nintendo should have more vision when it comes to this. As such, anything that allows you to plug in your own cartridges will always be a better option (if you're OK with the price tag). I would really like something similar to the AVS but for the Super Nintendo. Maybe it will happen down the line...
This is the proper way to make a Famiclone, too bad no one will ever do one for the Snes/SFC.
@TeslaChippie I'm sure some people would have stuff like this banned because teh corporations don't like people making such totally legal and legit hardware and software that competes with and compares extremely favourably to their own products. I'm not one of those people; I 100% support the creation of awesome hardware and software like this. The corporations don't control everything (yet) and we certainly shouldn't be aiding them in gaining that absolute control of absolutely everything, which they would and will given the chance, especially when it doesn't serve our best interests as consumers (or just people) in the slightest, in any way, shape, or form.
I honestly don't know when we all turned into corporate lackeys.
What most people really don't seem to grasp fully here is that this is precisely why certain laws protecting the creation of these consoles and the likes of emulators were created (or at least are still protected if they weren't created specifically for this purpose), to provide fair competition in the market, to offer the consumer options, and to prevent huge corporations dictating entire markets by abusing the likes of copyright law to the point where it becomes detrimental to everyone other than these mega corporations.
Seriously, we all really need to stop fighting for the corporations and start to "fight for the users*" again—trust me, it's actually better for us all this way.
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiw2FbHBd14
Looks great but price is a bit steep. Well for my pocket anyway
If I hadn't already got an AV Famicom with the Hi-Def NES mod I would definitely consider one of these. I think the only thing I don't like about it is that wedge shape, which just looks quite ugly to my eyes.
I think the lack of a controller in the box is probably a good idea as it means people can use their preferred controller. Most NES fans seem to like the original rectangular controller but I much prefer the dogbone (in fact it's a shame they haven't given us an option for that with NES Mini).
@TeslaChippie This isn't an emulator. This is a Field Programmable Gate Array. Meaning the chip is configured in the field, rather than in a factory. Internally it works exactly the same as the original NES chips.
@KingMike I hope you'll be glad to know that the Famicom Disk systems cartridge adapter does fit, and has been tested, and works wonderfully.
I'll admit, I'm more than a little tempted by those menu options, but I already have a Retron 5. Maybe if I see one used or at a discount someday, I'll pick it up, but personally I just can't justify it. Even a NES Mini might be more likely to win out for me, if I ever get a new TV, since it has games pre-loaded and adds to the overall convenience factor. I'm glad there's a swell option out there for other retro fans, though.
Just a minor correction in the article, you stated "including almost identical power and reset buttons".
They are infact identical. These are real parts left over from a Nintendo service center.
I have a cozy little setup with my original NES but if I didn't I'd get this. If I ever start multiplayer gaming again I'll snag one for sure. Krikzz compatibility is nice
Mine comes in the mail today!
I own an NT, but this sounds like a great & cheaper alternative. I dig the NES- like design.
I'd already seen some reviews a few weeks back, so I already knew how good this was. There was definitely a lot of care in putting this thing together. Original NES hardware is a tricky thing to get set up for RGB out and for modern TVs, so this is a great option for those who want a simple NES console and don't absolutely need to have the original hardware.
I bought an AVS and am loving it so far. I was never interested in clone consoles before, due to the inaccuracy and other compromises of emulation. The fact that I can now use my carts on a brand new, HD-capable reproduction at a hardware level is the biggest win imaginable.
The other thing I like about the AVS is the online scoreboard functionality. I hope lots of folks use that feature for some real high score competition!
Sounds like a really good NES repro console. If I got more cash to spare then maybe I'll get one for myself.
Good review, mine is due to arrive tomorrow. RetroUSB is also due to release wireless controllers for the AVS (or anything else that accepts the NES controller port) in the future.
Here's hoping it doesn't require batteries to be replaced in the carts.
@mikegamer Well the console doesn't require it, but the cart would if you wanted to save. Most NES games don't have save batteries, but a few notable ones do like Zelda and Final Fantasy. They're not difficult to replace at any rate.
Wow... I'm really really tempted to pre-order this now. (Or buy it? The site still says pre-order but I see lots of people here getting theirs now.)
I mean, I did just buy a PC Engine Duo, but this would be a great edition to my living room, and who knows how many of these will actually get made...
@SmaMan It's buy, they're manufactured and he's received them, just in the process of shipping them out.
Video review, next time. Reading makes me tired.
@jbopatrick It's actually still considered emulation, because it's one device imitating another. The FPGA is not housed on the same chip as the NES (it hasn't been manufactured in over 25 years), and I'd be willing to bet the logic blocks were custom written.
Is this gonna be on Amazon?
I don't live in the USA or Canada and I reaaaly want this!
@Shugo Yeah I just got it yesterday, it was in the second round of orders he shipped out I believe. Like I said it's due to come tomorrow though, and I'm on the opposite coast, so it's fast shipping at least. But that should be a good sign I'd think, that he's had this many orders already.
The performance of the NES mini better be good
@TeslaChippie "Hardware emulation" is one way to put it I think, to distinguish it from a general purpose ARM or x86 CPU running emulation software. The FPGA is actually interacting with the cartridges the way a real NES would, rather than just dumping the ROM.
I have the NES Advantage!
I might consider this if I didn't already have two NES top loaders and a Famicom. I have an original model too, but I have no reason to use it since it'll just wear out the connectors. I've always thought the top loaders were perfect, every game working on the first try, never wearing out, and compact with way more comfy controllers...
@Nintendood That's half the reason I was excited for this, my old toaster NES was such a pain to get working with the bad connector. I had considered getting a top-loader, but then I'd still be left with poor video quality unless I spent more money to mod it.
I hope they have some for sale at PRGE. If they do I am picking one up.
So it's still a pretty expensive piece of kit that can't connect to a CRT set, huh? No thanks, I'll stick with my RetroDuo. I don't care about HD graphics as long as I can avoid the input lag inherent in modern TV sets, which is especially important when dealing with the precise nature of most NES games.
@TeslaChippie That's making the definition of a an emulator a bit wide. By that definition, the NES model 2 top loader is an emulator, because it is trying to copy what the original did. It uses a different board and it's coaxle output is a bit different than the original model NES.
@blackice85 You have to solder them, it's a pain. At least the Retro Freak saves on SD cards.
@blackice85 I have an old HDTV, an early Panasonic one, that supports the 240p setting that the games are, so that's the best display you can get without distorting the original image, as far as I know. It's a really fat and heavy TV, though.
The lack of full 1080p is what bothers me most about this system; I'm seriously considering an HDMI mod to my existing NES instead. I've already fixed the cartridge slot with the Blinking Light Win, so no worries there.
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