There's still a sizeable group of gamers that derive great pleasure from playing retro games on their original systems. Getting the best out of these old titles, though, is always a challenge.
Systems driven by emulation and impressive HDMI mods are available to give the NES a fresh look, and now retroUSB is pitching in with a console that promises an integrated HDMI output at 720p, along with support for all past, current and prospective future NES / Famicom cartridges. The AVS, below, is currently targeting a summer release - with retroUSB hoping to get the stock in late June - at $185, depending on delivery from the manufacturers.
As you can see above some original games are on the way, and the company has also published some images to highlight the philosophy behind the system and its features.
$185 is certainly a highly competitive price, substantially undercutting the $499 (and sold out) Analogue NT. At the moment retroUSB isn't taking pre-orders for the AVS, presumably waiting for a firm release date and stock before committing to sales.
There are also plans for a wireless controller - it's said to be a few months away, however.
So, are any of the NES enthusiasts among you interested in this? Let us know - it could certainly be an intriguing system to follow.
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i love my CRT
I'll probably go for this
This looks good. I like that it does not use emulation.
Here we go again, another Famiclone that can't play light gun games and probably won't work with Castlevania 3. With Retron 5 and the Retro Freak already on the market for around the same price range, offer more game consoles compatibilities, are region free, had built-in cheats, and could upscale games to 720p or higher in HD, I don't see the need for this console unless you love wasting money collecting Famiclones.
I love my CRT TV but I can tell it is starting to go down hill...
Why would you play 16bit games on HD tv !? Not worth it
I have a both the frontloader and toploader as well as a Famicom and these kind of things are always something to consider. I'm probably going to be purchasing a retron 5 (blasphemy, I know) within the next month so I probably won't buy this. My setup is just too small right now for my big SONY Triniton CRT as well as my HDTV so a Retron 5 will really be nice. Plus it now has the ability to play rom hacks through patching. CRT is the best way to go but if the picture looks good and compatibility is 100% it's pretty tempting. I currently use my frontloader most of the time since it gives me the best image but they are finicky even if you take care of them. I refurbished nearly a 100 frontloaders and I get sick of dealing with the pins being too tight or too loose.
I wonder if it's too late in development to add RGB, or S-video? They probably convert the analog signal to digital right away meanings it's very unlikely.
@Shugo I have been too, I'm really excited to get one.
@retro_player_22 It works with all NES and Famicom games perfectly, even new homebrew that has yet to be developred, as well as any NES hardware or accessories that would work with an original console. It actually does work with the zapper, it's just that the zapper doesn't work with flat panel displays, they require CRT by design.
@NESguy94 It's all digital, they aren't converting an analog signal to digital. It's a FPGA (as opposed to a software emulator that's run on an ARM CPU or something). But besides, development has long been finished and manufacturing is nearly complete.
@peeks Why would I play 8-bit games through HDMI? Maybe I'd buy one because my 30 year old NES doesn't have any kind of Hi-def output.
Or maybe I'd buy it because only complete morons would judge a game solely by the way it looks...
looks cheap to me
@retro_player_22 Here is a video showing it work with Castlvania 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKZIoq7pp34
@3MonthBeef What makes you say that? As far as I've read the audio is perfect, it even supports famicom expansion audio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNrC3cKwFL8
Er, I can just use my computer...
@blackice85
That's cool. Raw digital will be nice. I guess if I get one I'll just hook it up my Triniton (it has a single HDMI port) so I can still play Duck Hunt and Gumshoe.
@CartoonDan Cool, that's one game off the list. Still need to test more though. Hopefully games like Rad Racer 2, Battletoads, Dragon Warrior I-IV, and the Mega Man series all works intact too. Both the Retro Duo and Gamerz Tek 8-Bit system also works with Castlevania 3 as well but still had issues with most of these mention games.
I'm very happy with my Analogue NT. It hurt to pay that much, but my gosh, it is wonderful!
@blackice85
Eww. Either that's a really bad audio rip, or this system completely butchers Madara's impeccable VRC6 soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ni1gL3Yazk
@nacho_chicken The video I linked was only playing with the expansion audio as a demonstration, it can do the full audio.
The more choices the better, I say! Interesting front load design that will likely not blink. The bane of any NES user!
@Gaijillionaire Yup, I've spent too many years dealing with the poorly designed toaster model, so the new non-bending design will be a godsend. That and the fact that it's perfect digital output are the main reasons I'm looking forward to it.
@blackice85 Oh, now I see what he was talking about. That's fine, then.
@blackice85 When I was a kid, we stuck a stuffed animal in the NES slot to stop it from blinking. Enough force to hold it down, soft enough fit it in there without falling out.
The best thing about this is that it uses FPGA(Field Programmable Gate Array). Which can accurately recreate the original hardware right down to its bare metal. You see, the beauty of FPGA is its ability to act like the hardware that was "programmed " into it. But, FPGA tends to be far more expensive than SoC. I wished more Famiclone manufacturers would invest in FPGA..You can read more about FPGA here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field-programmable_gate_array
Retro USB has definitely raised the bar on NES clones.
@NinChocolate Us too! Here at HyperPlay RPG Towers we pray to the great god of CRTs that our trusty Sony Trinitron holds out just that little bit longer. At least 'til we complete Terranigma anyway...
@peeks Because it looks nicer???
Who designs these things?
If I were in a position to make something like this, I'd make sure it was a whole lot smaller and possibly a bit slicker too.
Basically, I'd try my damnedest to make sure the console itself was barely bigger than the NES carts you put into it; there's just no need for something as simple as a NES to take up so much space and plastic in this day and age. With today's computer power/tech you could likely fit almost every single component other than the cartridge slot, controller slots, and connection ports into something the size of a coin*.
I wouldn't make it look like the design below but just look how small you can make a modern NES console if you want:
You could basically double the height of the design above, so you can slot the carts into the front and flat-on rather than sticking out the top, and make it a simple clean square shape that's just bigger than a NES cart and about twice the height, and you'd already have a much smaller and slicker NES console.
Also, it is actually possible to make good looking and simple controllers—honestly. See:
I just threw this together in a matter of hours.
*This guy's even fit one inside a NES controller: http://forums.benheck.com/viewtopic.php?t=14764
I own this guy's retrousb adapters and they are extremely well designed, play lag free, and have a zero effort setup process. It's true plug and play. If you've been following this console project, then you'll know he's been treating this like his baby. This console is sure to be a hit. (I'm sorry but those Retron consoles are garbage, both appearance wise and the way they run and display the games.)
@3MonthBeef I believe you, but this isn't a software emulator box, it runs an FPGA as I said earlier.
@Kirk He wanted it to look somewhat similar to the original NES by design, it's not an accident. He's also planning a portable version of this using the same FPGA design.
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?StartRow=1&catid=7&threadid=154317
Very interesting. I've been waiting for Kevtris' Hi-Def NES mod as that uses original hardware but if that doesn't arrive soon this might be a very viable alternative (plus less soldering which is always good)!
I think I'll wait and see if the compatibility and accuracy of the AVS are indistinguishable from the original hardware before I commit though.
I do own both the NES and SNES PowerPaks from retroUSB and they've been excellent so if anyone can do it, I'm sure he can. I've got an RGB modded AV Famicom (using the graphics chip from a dead PlayChoice 10) and while the picture is superb it doesn't look great on LCDs.
Not keen on that controller though. The two horizontally aligned buttons would be fairly uncomfortable, they should be staggered like the NES2 Dogbone controller. The edges on that d-pad look like they could be uncomfortable too. I would jump at a wireless dogbone controller...
@TheMudHutDweller: Not judging the game by how it looks, but the $185 investment . . . .
I checked out that Castlevania 3 demo and it looks great. Love how the game is rendered in 16:9 instead of the crappy box we usually see. Wonder how it sounds, though.
Retro is a decent company. The RetroDuo is really impressive, even more so after a simply sound mod.
If this were the real deal (no lag, full compatibility), I'd really want one.
As for the controller, yuck. 8BitDo has a similar wifi receiver and its controllers look GREAT and have been given solid reviews. This AVS with an NES30 Pro . . . my heart be still!
@retro_player_22
They said in the article above it doesn't use any NOAC chips, which was the reason why many of those games didn't work. This seems to be original hardware built from the ground up.
Even though I have a NES and Famicom already, this is quite tempting...
@bluedogrulez $185 is a great deal, considering you get a built in Four Score, dual compatibility with NES and Famicom games, an FDS port, and HDMI output. If you just want a replacement NES and not something like one of those multi console machines, then the best real affordable alternative to the AVS is the $135 Hi-Def mod kit from Kevtris - and that's just for the board. This thing is bargainous, even if it can only play 90% of the back catalogue.
good old bunnyboy and his gadgets
@retro_player_22 The Retron 5, etc. aren't really targeting the same audience. Those are emulators (even when playing from a cartridge). This is a reproduction with HDMI output, and is going after the audience thinking of modding their original hardware.
I saw this on display at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo last October and it did pique my interest. I will say it looked promising.
AVS is a day one purchase for me as I have been waiting and drooling over this thing since if was first announced on January 1st, 2013. I am so glad NintendoLife is covering this system because Brian Parker (founder of RetroUSB) needs all the hype, fanfare, and support he can get!
@retro_player_22 This is not an ordinary Famiclone. The Retron5 and Retro Freak do not work with homebrew or flash carts. Most Famiclones don't like Castlevania III and have audio or graphical issues with numerous titles.
AVS is an all new FPGA implementation that does not rely on Chinese clone chips or crapulation, and should have 100% compatability with all NES and Famicom accessories. AVS can technically work the Zapper, at least it can read the trigger pull and light detect inputs from it, so it can be used for playing homebrew stuff like Russian Roulette.
Your HDMI enabled flat panel HDTV is not compatible with Zapper, and if you hook up an old school NES to an HDTV, you will quickly realize your Zapper does not work on it either. You still need an old school CRT for Zapper games, so don't throw out those tubes just yet!
@Kirk Regarding your NES clone in a cart, that is using a cheap crappy NOAC chip like all the other clones. Some people want quality. The AVS is far smaller than the original NES toaster but has nice sturdy plastic construction and a high quality PCB design. Too many manufacturers are already taking the "Let's make this as tiny and use the fewest resources possible so that it barely functions out of the box," approach.
Do you really expect collectors and gamers who care about quality will want to buy another $20-$40 clone system? What of the purported 100% compatibility? This system has a very nice retro inspired design that would fit in well with a vintage game collection. If you think it's cheap junk, then buy all means, get a Retron5 or $20 clone and watch it fail to load certain games or even fail completely after a couple months of service. AVS is built to last...
@TheMudHutDweller "This thing is bargainous, even if it can only play 90% of the back catalogue."
You have the AVS confused with some NOAC clone or emulation box. Compatibility with vintage, new, and future games, including flash carts, should be 100% out of the box. And the AVS can technically read the logic inputs from a Zapper, only issue it is your HDTV that doesn't work with lightgun games.
Compared to Low Budget's Super Eight, the Analogue NT, or Kevtris/Game Tech HDMI NES upgrade, the AVS does all of those things and is a steal at $185. It's also the only console that doesn't use recycled components from old game hardware, crappy Chinese clone chips or stolen emulators.
@StarDust4Ever I said it was a bargain EVEN IF it's only compatible with 90% of the NES/Famicom back catalogue. The makers of the Analog NT claimed that their machine could play all games. It couldn't. And what's this nonsense about me being confused about famiclones and whatnot? What are you TALKING about?
This looks interesting, would save me getting my nes modded
@SmaMan Any reason why most of those games won't work on the Analog Nt? As far as I concern that thing claim to use original hardware as well and is not a clone but games like Mega Man 3 and Castlevania 3 doesn't seem to work on it. If a repro console doesn't want to be label as a clone, it needs to be 100% compatible with every games out of the box. The Analog Nt failed on that, hopefully this one doesn't.
Really don't see the point. Sure the HDMI will make the NES games look very crisp, but is crisp worth nearly $200 with tax? No. NOt that the Retron 5 is all that great either, but for less you get a lot of emulator perks, downer is it won't like flash carts, most multicarts, and some other shady modern things. But if you're just after playing old games it works, and so does an old top loader or standard NES.
I wanna see pictures of the back first!!
@TheMudHutDweller You are the one citing 90% of games. AVS will support 100% old, new, and future homebrew games.
@retro_player_22 The Analogue NT mostly had issues because it utilized a beta version of the HDMI NES mod. It was caused by some sort of timing issue with the cart bus. Those issues have been largely fixed (CVIII and EverDrive are now working) but owners will need a firmware update to fix it. I have no idea how that would be handled on the NT as I don't own one.
Retro AVS will support firmware updates through the mini USB using standard drivers, in addition you can connect it to PC to upload scores to Nintendoage (scoreboard), and possibly cart dumping as well.
@tanookisuit AVS is not an emulator, and none of those launch homebrews will run on the Retron5 because it doesn't support the mapper.
@StarDust4Ever I said nothing of the sort. I stated that it MAY only run 90% of NES/Famicom titles. How do you know that it'll be 100% backwards compatible? Ah, you don't...
I've noticed you like to talk a lot in here; mostly about what you consider wee gold nugget factoids (such a fact master! Oh yeeeaaaah!). I've also noticed that the majority of your conversations are... how shall we say... one-sided. Are you one of those people who think that your advanced years have somehow bestowed you with some wealth of knowledge? Do you think that you're the Dungeon Master from the old D&D cartoon in super special secret disguise!? Well, here's a reality check: you're on a Nintendo website, Cap'n Popular; your supposed insight of all things video games are relevant in these kind of sites, and these sites alone. You spout this stuff to the man or woman on the street and they'll laugh your *** back indoors - where you undoubtedly spend 90% (heh!) of your time.
@TheMudHutDweller Because I have been following this project for the past 3 years...
http://beta.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=92557
@NESguy94 Love Top Loaders
@StarDust4Ever "Because I have been following this project for the past 3 years..." Woopdedangdoooo! What's your point? I could've been following the developmental progress of the Analog NT (or ANY OTHER project) for just as long. Doesn't mean what was promised will be delivered.
Your last statement is a little disturbing, quite frankly. Not with me? Allow me to elaborate a little:
You're kinda exhibiting behaviour one would most associate with somebody who'd been indoctrinated into a cult.
Some guy in the street: "I AM THE HAMSTER OVERLORD! SWEAR YOUR ALLEGIANCE TO ME AND YOU SHALL BE ENDOWED WITH A MIGHTY NINJA HAMSTER ARMY TO CALL YOUR OWN!"
You: "You've said it so it must be true!"
@TheMudHutDweller So now I'm the official hamster overlord. Thanks for the cool title bro!
AVS + Everdrive = ultimate NES experience on HDTV?
(BTW, I certainly don't condone piracy, but I also don't support scalpers who are artificially and unreasonably hoarding all the cartridges away from us to control the supply. Our US NES and SNES antique games should cost the same as the Japanese equivalents.)
This looks interesting, considering I have no original NES nor Famiclone. I just may order one.
@Hamster_Overlord That pic you're using for your avatar is very cute. I used to have pet hamsters.
@Hamster_Overlord Well, I'm 101% certain you could make a tiny-as-hell modern NES console that's 101% pure quality. Like I said, the NES motherboard/chip stuff could be recreated on a board the size of a coin in this day and age, and all that's left is fitting in the various connection ports and stuff (so you can use the original controller for example). It would be entirely possible to make a slick as hell, tiny modern NES that simply takes the old carts, and with all the HD bells and whistles too.
What these guys are trying to do, from what I can tell, is just take old NES components directly and squeeze them into an alternate case (but, to be fair, I'm not really sure how they're doing things specifically*), but I think I'd try to go about it a different way and have only the carts themselves as being the only official/original NES components (and the controllers as an option too). I'd basically build an entirely new console from scratch (a "New" NES, as it were), with all new motherboards/chips and everything (just coded to be 100% compatible with the original game carts), and wrap it up in a lovely little box.
Now, I'm not saying that's even close to simple, or potentially very practical if you're just some homebrew guy and want to do this at an affordable price, but that's how I'd go about it personally.
*But, if they're not using the original NES innards at all, I really don't get why they insist on making these new boxes so big and chunky. I mean, it's not like all old consoles were these giant lunch boxes (The original PC-Engine was barely the size of a NES cart.):
@Kirk "What these guys are trying to do, from what I can tell, is just take old NES components directly and squeeze them into an alternate case"
The AVS is made with all new parts built from the ground up by us. No donor parts are used for the console, or the games!
@Freelance Thanks. I actually changed my avatar and username just to toy with @TheMudHutDweller a little bit. Now I've slept on it and starting to regret it somewhat, but cest la vie! I don't religiously read articles on NLife anymore since I don't have the time. Just a lot of misinformation going around regarding the AVS and I call them out for it and get labeled as a troll.
@Kirk Size really doesn't have much in relation to quality. I think the AVS is beautiful. It has a retro inspired feel with a touch of modern refinement and class that would look good in any modern or retro gaming setup. With few exceptions (ie PC Engine) the miniaturization trend is all about shrinking gadgets to reduce cost and trim as much fat as possible. Enclosures are made small and thin to reduce the bottom line, and similar compromises occur at the PCB design level. At some point the cost cutting goes too far and quality suffers.
It's always been a tradeoff between quality versus quantity. American versus Chinese design philosophy. You think you're getting a deal but you're not. Modern greedy corporations actually want your stuff to break in two years so you'll be forced to buy another one. RetroUSB AVS has a pretty good chance it will still work ten, fifteen, twenty years from now, like consoles of old.
And no, as RetroUSB stated, AVS doesn't use recycled CPU and PPU NES chips in the design the way their boutique competition does. Super 8, Analgue NT, and Kevtris HDMI mod all rely on original hardware. The problem here is that such a salvage model is unsustainable. There are only so many damaged consoles in existence from which to harvest parts; after that you are cannibalizing working hardware that is still in service.
@RetroUSB Just FYI, what you are doing with FPGA is amazing, not only cheaper than the competition but if issues arise it is easily fixable through firmware should an issue arise.
Also a shoutout for the scoreboard, although the article doesn't specifically mention it. I plan on hooking up my AVS and submitting scores to the NA database just for fun, even though I'm really more of a casual player than a hardcore competitor.
Take care...
Then I don't get why the system isn't smaller. I do agree that small doesn't necessarily equal quality but it does tend to look slicker/cooler and it does take up less space under your TV, and there's no doubt that someone could make a "New" NES that's quite a bit smaller than the example here, without compromising on quality either.
To be fair, it is much cooler seeing it in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKZIoq7pp34
The controllers shown in the article image above are definitely terrible looking though.
@retroUSB That's good. So, given that it is new components inside, I def' think it could have been quite a bit smaller then.
To be fair, and as I said in the comment above, the console box itself definitely looks better/cooler in real life (or via the YouTube video I watched), but that controller shown above is fugly. I'd personally just take the original NES controller design and modify it slightly.
There ya go: I did a quick design for you.
@Hamster_Overlord You ARE a troll. You contorted what I said and resorted to posting some utterly pathetic infantile attempt at humour as a retort after I pwned your ***. You've got some audacity trying to take the higher ground, bud. Oh, and you're certainly no victim, that's for damn sure.
Actually, when I think about it, your behaviour shouldn't come as any surprise; after a little digging I found out that you're one of THOSE people (yup, I checked your Miiverse profile. Whaaat? Sometimes you need to do a bit of the ol' research, even when it comes to somebody as blatantly intellectually dishonest as you). Talking of Miiverse, I've noticed how you're just so dang popular. You're like some social dynamo! "I have no followers because I have other things to do. I actually have a life". No, it's because you're a (pwned) TROLL.
@TheMudHutDweller "Talking of Miiverse, I've noticed how you're just so dang popular. You're like some social dynamo! "I have no followers because I have other things to do. I actually have a life". No, it's because you're a (pwned) TROLL."
I rarely use Miiverse, so I don't get whatever you are saying. You must have me confused with someone else. Besides the fact that you bothered to look me up on a service I rarely use, tells me that YOU ARE THE TROLL. Otherwise you wouldn't have bothered trying to look me up. Also maybe, just maybe, I don't have any followers because I don't care about followers or really use the service much.
You won't find me on Facebook or Twitter because I don't use social media. On AtariAge and NintendoAge, I'm Kosmic Stardust. Everywhere else, I'm Stardust4Ever. On NintendoLife, I'm known as HAMSTER OVERLORD. And you sir, are a hamster, so prepare to bow down...
@Kirk No offense but that controller mockup is poor design. RetroUSB's wireless controller is inspired by the NES Max, but with the classic NES layout. The only difference between it at the classic rectangular NES controller is the ergonomic handles. In fact, Brian even said that the wireless AVS circuit board will fit in a normal NES controller shell with slight modifications. You won't have access to the awesome turbo buttons and you'll need to Dremel the cable hole to fit the microUSB charging port.
If you're seriously sitting there and claiming the RetroUSB controller design is better looking than mine:
L . . . O . . . f'n . . . L
You have ZERO clue about design, product design or otherwise.
vs.
That RetroUSB controller looks like it was made in a high school craft & design workshop on a budget of ten dollars—no offense to the designer, but the truth hurts.
And, the NES Max at least wasn't a boxy block, which is a majorly important ergonomic difference between it and the RetroUSB variation (If only the RetroUSB version was in fact like the NES Max; and I really don't get why they decided to make all the edges sharp/angular.):
Again, LOL.
Their console looks pretty good, other than I think it's still unnecessarily big and chunky, but that RetroUSB controller: No.
@retro_player_22 I have the second run of the NT, Castlevania 3 and Mega Man 3 work fine.
@ThomasBW84 It is up for preorder! Just ordered one.
I ordered the AVS and four games earlier today. Plenty of stock to go around...
http://www.retrousb.com/index.php?cPath=36
Ugh, that controller. Also, that console. Needed someone with a LITTLE more design experience/training to tackle that project. Ergonomics be damned, much like the retron 5 controller :/
@peeks You mean 8-bit
I just ordered one. super pumped to try it out. I have an old sony vega wide screen that is one of the last bulb tvs. It has an hdmi out. I wonder if the Zapper would work.
@retro_player_22
"Here we go again, another Famiclone that can't play light gun games and probably won't work with Castlevania 3. With Retron 5 and the Retro Freak already on the market for around the same price range, offer more game consoles compatibilities, are region free, had built-in cheats, and could upscale games to 720p or higher in HD, I don't see the need for this console unless you love wasting money collecting Famiclones."
I don't normally reply to comments, but it seems you need some correct information here!
1. Famiclone? No. It's an FPGA based system and performs 100% as the original would.
2. Can't play Zapper games. Correct, but that's more of the fault of your HD display, which vby the way is the main reason you'd want one of these. If you just want to play NES games on an old CRT you'd be better off with an old NES, which you can often find used for less than $25.
There are only 8 Zapper Light gun required NES games ever made...2 of them are decent. I've been playing NES games since 1985 and really can only think of a handful of times I actually wanted to play them. I don't miss them, nor do I miss the 2 R.O.B. games either.
3. "and probably won't work with Castlevania 3" Not only does it work with it PERFECTLY, but if you insert the Japanese Famicom game you will also get the much superior Famicom Enhanced audio. Once you play that you will have a hard time going back to the old NES sound. So proceed with caution!
4. "With Retron 5 and the Retro Freak.."
No.. Those are EMULATION based systems and largely inaccurate. Maybe not to the untrained eye, but trust me, they are not as good as this. Both of those also introduce lag into your games. Beating Tyson on MTPO will be MUCH harder to do with one of those than with an AVS.
Also, try playing some homebrew, many titles just don't even work. Others that often have trouble: English Translated games, game hacks, multigame carts, or flashcarts. Where as they ALL work on the AVS.
Now try connecting some official NES or Famicom accessories to it. A kick ass Arkanoid VAUS spinner controller -Nope!, A U-Force - Nope! LaserScope by Konami... Nope! How about running an actual Famicom Disk System on your Retron 5 or GameFreak? Nope! Not going to work, but all of those, and more work on the AVS and extremely well too.
5. Region free? Sure it does! It even includes both the NES and Famicom cartridge ports, with enough room to connect an official FDS system, as well as a real Famicom EXT port in the back for Japanese Famicom accessories.
6. Upscale your games to 720p. Yes again! It looks incredible at 720p, which by the way is a perfect 3x integer of the NES's native resolution of 240. It does this with ZERO LAG introduced, something the Retro5 and GameFreak can't claim. Perfect 48.1Hz audio through HDMI. No lagged sounds, no sound differences from the original, just perfection.
It goes beyond that with 4 controller inputs (NOS of actual Nintendo parts). So you have built-in NES Four Score support. The Reset and Power buttons are also NOS of actual Nintendo NES parts which is awesome.
You have to realize this is not some cheap Android emulator-in-a-box like those others. This is 1:1 hardware representation of the original NES/Famicom, with some amazing enhancements. If a game runs on the NES it will run on the AVS. I love using an Everdrive N8 cart with the AVS, along with 8Bitdo NES30 Bluetooth pads. It's the ultimate NES setup IMO.
@spoonmanx You're too late to the party pal, any discussion about the AVS is old news now especially on this comment section. All the stuff you mention were already cover by various sources. You're pretty much just regurgitate the same info everyone already knew about. Get on with time and go research on newer products like the Switch or the Scorpio even. Have a nice day.
Weather my comment is late or not is irrelevant. What matters here is that you have left vastly incorrect information about a product which is currently selling as new. Like I said, I don't normally bother commenting on this stuff, but when there is information so wrong I feel it should be sorted out.
You've had plenty of time to fix all of the wrong information in your comment, but instead chose to take this time to try and challenge me as a gamer who is not up to date on their systems, but the truth is I have my Nintendo Switch on pause and my PS4 downloading Horizon Zero Dawn.
Never assume that someone is stuck with only retro games just because they play them. I own over 200 systems and 5,000 games. I appreciate all of what gaming has to offer despite which system it may be on.
http://www.videogameobsession.com/photodump/matt/VGO_Panarama-new.jpg
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