Topic: the reality for the wii!!!

move will be better than natal for wii ports.
Natal is for real non gamers.

I'll be frank, the only decent games the Wii has left are Nintendo games and occasional third party stuff, reminds me an awful lot of the Gamecube. While I love the Wii (Or the "Streets-of-Rage-Machine" as I sometimes call it, seeing as that's all I use it for these days) the line of high profile games it had in previous years has slowed to a trickle.

The Wii has never been about motion controls for me. I can play Nintendo games on my Nintendo Wii, that's why I like it better than the HD twins.

Blend games.com who are at GDC say that ninty are to annouce new platform,some are say wii hd/DS2,as developers are claiming at GDC.
oh please let it be....

I'd think that there's about as definitive a statement as you're going to get that there won't be a new Nintendo home console coming soon in this interview with Reggie Fils-Aimé:

http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/09/wii-xbox-playstation-technol...

I have three kids and a large extended family full of kids. I also hear a lot about their friends and their friends' families etc , no mention of xbox.....

This.
(And I love your avatar. Top notch taste in game right there)

I have been Nintendo all my life, and that ain't going to change. Nintendo can do whatever the **** it wants, and I'll be behind it. There will always be beautiful indie games, hardcore games, and all the stuff in between and not forgetting of course my favourite franchises on Nintendo, so why on earth would I want a lame-ass PS3 or even lamer 360, who's entire repertoire is built on, trigger trigger trigger dribble into a cup trigger trigger trigger repeat ad nauseum.

... besides if I ever want that, I have a gaming PC which is better then an Xbox anyways.

Aye, its about brilliant nintendo games and a fair few v ery good intuitive motion games too! That's for me anyway.

@Matt_B

Reggie is known for making "definitive statements" denying that something will be coming soon, only to announce within a week that said thing is coming soon.

So I just watched Sony's GDC note about their motion controller solution. First impressions: hmm, seems to borrow a lot from the Wii but maybe it's got better tech. Second impressions: judging purely from the gameplay shown, it actually looks much less impressive than I expected (to the point where I can't say it is at all an improvement over the Wii). Hopefully that was due to the GDC setup, and normal gameplay would be better than it looked.

If you think that other consoles copying Wii with overpriced knock-off games will make Nintendo's system redundant, that's fine... but I have to disagree. My opinion is that Wii won't be a redundant lifeless machine as long as it has fun, unique games to enjoy. Since it's already got dozens of amazing games Wii is safe for now. Since Nintendo is unlikely to develop games for other consoles, it's also safe for the foreseeable future.

i total agree,reggie tends to word smith carefully what he says,as'no new wii in the coming months'.that was january?
ninty are playing by ear what to do next.

wiimote,nunchuck are as good or second to mouse n keyboard for FPS,and the ps3 isnt short of HD fps franchise.

Motion controls are awesome in FPS's. (Think RE4 and MW:Reflex). There are a huge amount of FPS's on the 360. (I can't speak for the PS3 because I don't own one.) From this simple standpoint alone, I believe NATAL could/would/should be a success on the 360. With controller technology being near-similiar across all 3 consoles and the PS3 and 360 already being superior in online playability, graphics, processing power, storage, etc, I think Nintendo will have it's work cut out for it in trying to keep gamers interested. It will almost force them to release QUALITY games in order to attract buyers. Zelda #27 and Super Mario Paper Rpg World Galaxy 17 will only go so far in attracting the core franchise fanboys.

Nintendo can easily supply their own console with sufficient titles (not that I think 3rd parties that make "proper" games will move away as a result of the twins having motion input anyway). Personally I'm more interested in the WiiWare space than retail for the Wii and I expect that the indies who are attracted to WiiWare are more interested in the larger installed base and better business terms than the fact that it has motion control or lacks HD.

@Two responses about motion controls and FPS games:

I agree, in principle, that these new control schemes might be really exciting for the FPS genre on PS3/360... but only in principle at this point. It's really the pointer controls on the Wii Remote that make FPS games more interesting - not motion. While the Natal/Move control options can probably simulate pointer controls, I'm not judging until there is actually a game that makes use them. In principle the Sony Move should've been able to absolutely kill the Wii Remote tech-wise in the first-party demos they showed at GDC... but that didn't happen and it leaves me skeptical about what the quality of other applications will look like.

(It will also be interesting to see if FPS fans on those consoles accept that control option anyway, regardless of how well-implemented it might be.)

But if you think that HD graphics and the best FPS experience is what defines a console, then Wii has already failed miserably. People don't buy a Wii for either of those factors, and gamers don't expect those types of experiences on Wii; they buy in because there are many high quality game experiences that simply aren't available on other consoles. So claiming that FPS games will be even better on PS3 and 360 doesn't make the Wii obsolete and really doesn't change anything. (Now if you had talked about the emergence of improved sports titles like Tiger Woods or PES, then you might be onto something.)

Also, "Zelda #27 and Super Mario Paper Rpg World Galaxy 17 will only go so far in attracting the core franchise fanboys." Really? Coming from someone talking up the importance of Call of Duty 49 and Generic Space Marine Simulator #186? Obviously both the initial statement and my sarcastic response are utterly silly. Nintendo releases games that are consistently of high quality, and will have no problem attracting a flock of gamers.

Ah, come on. Reggie's been denying this particular rumour for nearly three years now and I'm starting to believe him. That Nintendo are working upon a new machine I don't doubt, but they'll make the announcement when they're ready and no sooner than that. I'm pretty sure they'll give us at least a year's grace; that's what they did with the DS, and it was more like two years from the first announcements about the Wii until it finally hit the market.

So, I'll eat my hat if there's an HD Wii launched this year, and I'd think it highly unlikely there'll be one next year. 2012 is my prediction, and I'm sticking to it. That's not to say that we won't get an announcement this year, but there's got to be a couple more good years left in the Wii at least.

Motion controls are way too overrated in my opinion. I'm planning to buy a PS3 this year because of interesting games like Heavy Rain, God of War III, MGS4, Uncharted 1+2,...So I don't really care about Sony cloning Wii motion controls if there a no Triple A games connected to.

The same goes for Wii. I bought the white box on launch day because of Virtual Console (which is almost dead nowadays ) and Nintendo's exclusive franchises (Zelda, Metroid, F-Zero, Mario) despite very disappointing hardware and waggle controls.
Although my Wii gathered much dust since I own a Xbox360 thanks to many great games (Mass Effect, Brütal Legend, Oblivion, Arkham Asylum, GTA IV, Fallout 3, Civilization Revolution, Dragon Age,...) And of course I enjoy the Xbox Live Arcade games as a perfect alternative to Virtual Console since the massive decline of VC-releases.

Motion controls are underrated and underserved imho.

ejgamer, your reply is completely off-base, and completely silly _{see what I did there?}. I was addressing the concerns of the (potential) success of motion-related controls on the PS3 and the 360 and how they might be accepted on those systems, and under what criteria they might be widely used. In citing two Nintendo/WiiMote games that lots of us could relate too, I was attempting to draw attention to how much more fun those games are made by the addition of the Wii-type control schemes. I'm not stating that motion controls are strictly limited to that usage, but you've got to admit there are a ton of FPS available on the 360 and, as a result of that, it's an easy connection to make. Personally, FPS's account for less than 5% of my gaming collection.

Further along in my post, I tried to explain (unsuccessfully I reckon) that when all things are equal, it boils down to the GAMES that will sway people to a console. Unfortunately not all things are equal and the edge does not go to Nintendo imo, so it has to overcome that disadvantage by coming up with even better games to keep non-specific-game-loyal fans to keep coming back.

And by 'core franchise fanboys', you mean 'people who enjoy playing Mario and Zelda because the games are good'?