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CanisWolfred

Here, copy and pasted off of dictionary .com, the textbook definition of irony:

"1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2. Literature. a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b. (esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion."

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BulbasaurusRex

Here's what I found when looking up "ironic":

"3. Poignantly contrary to what was expected or intended: madness, an ironic fate for such a clear thinker."

"Usage Note: The words ironic, irony, and ironically are sometimes used of events and circumstances that might better be described as simply "coincidental" or "improbable," in that they suggest no particular lessons about human vanity or folly. Thus 78 percent of the Usage Panel rejects the use of ironically in the sentence In 1969 Susie moved from Ithaca to California where she met her husband-to-be, who, ironically, also came from upstate New York. Some Panelists noted that this particular usage might be acceptable if Susie had in fact moved to California in order to find a husband, in which case the story could be taken as exemplifying the folly of supposing that we can know what fate has in store for us. By contrast, 73 percent accepted the sentence Ironically, even as the government was fulminating against American policy, American jeans and videocassettes were the hottest items in the stalls of the market, where the incongruity can be seen as an example of human inconsistency."

This is what I think of for irony, which I don't see as the same as the other definition, as no statements are made that are intended to mean the opposite. I consider that sarcasm, although "sarcasm" is defined on dictionary.com as a form of irony.

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Okay, examples of REAL irony (from Wikipedia, source of all human knowledge):

In Romeo and Juliet, when Romeo finds Juliet in a drugged death-like sleep, he assumes her to be dead and kills himself. Upon awakening to find her dead lover beside her, Juliet kills herself with his dagger.

During the 1920s The New York Times repeatedly scorned crossword puzzles. In 1924, it lamented "the sinful waste in the utterly futile finding of words the letters of which will fit into a prearranged pattern." In 1925 it said "the question of whether the puzzles are beneficial or harmful is in no urgent need of an answer. The craze evidently is dying out fast." Today, no U.S. newspaper is more closely identified with the crossword than The New York Times.

In O. Henry's story The Gift of the Magi, a young couple are too poor to buy each other Christmas gifts. The wife cuts off her treasured hair to sell it to a wig-maker for money to buy her husband a chain for his heirloom pocket watch. She's shocked when she learns he had pawned his watch to buy her a set of combs for her long, beautiful, prized hair.

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Philip_J_Reed

prairie_wind101 wrote:

Is it not ironic that console gaming continues to become more and more like PC gaming with increased funding of PC type Genre Games, subscription online method services, hard drives, game installations on hard drives, downloadable content and patches, online multiplayer emphasized over local multiplayer, and digital media replacing physical media?

Except for Nintendo.

And ironically Nintendo receives heavy criticism for those facts, and is said to be the 'casual one'.

Further irony, i-phone is becoming the 'go-to' 'console' for well known, established game franchises such as Metal Gear and Street Fighter, while DS - a wildly successful console, becomes a dumping ground for casual shovelware by major publishers.

SO - the telephone is the 'hardcore' game platform, even though its main emphasis is telecommunication.

While the successful game console's traditional physical media drive is spurned in favor of a digital app service.

This adds further ironic twist to the consumer - even though the consumer has shown great commitment by purchases a traditional device thats sole purpose is to play videogames, developers crap on them with their established game properties by selling them to phone customers.

That is ironic.

What is sad is how accepting game consumers and game media are off all of these ironic facts - their rights as console owners are being crapped on, and they are beginning to receive less and less product and respect for their money. Because console popularity and user base size are ironically losing out to fad baiting, digital media, and self defeating 'casual' game branding.

Why not give game console owners video games? You know - true, blue, video games?

Isn't it ironic that 'traditonal' videogames will not make it on Nintendo platforms? Except Nintendo makes them all the time and they do great business?

Isn't it ironic that the so called 'casual' lineup on Wii by Nintendo - Wii Sports, WSResort, Wii Play, and Wii Music - are more difficult to complete then established 'core' games like Twilight Princess and Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3?

Like Street Fighter?

Welcome back, Orlick. You've gone off Dickens characters, then? Am I correct in assuming that your next few screen names are going to be Neil Young album titles?

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Chicken+Brutus wrote:

Welcome back, Orlick. You've gone off Dickens characters, then? Am I correct in assuming that your next few screen names are going to be Neil Young album titles?

Post of the day.

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Adam

WaltzElf wrote:

Wow.

Agreed. Also, either you or Eugene needs to get an avatar already. This is unnecessarily confusing.

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weirdadam wrote:

WaltzElf wrote:

Wow.

Agreed. Also, either you or Eugene needs to get an avatar already. This is unnecessarily confusing.

I'd suggest a moving one, but we aren't allowed to have those anymore.
Even just a red circle in the middle of a black page is nice.

Just let it happen.

Noire

So is this the 'welcome back' Orlick thread?

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Bulbasaurus+Rex wrote:

WaltzElf wrote:

i-ro-ny: the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning.

That seems more like the definition of sarcasm. I-ro-ny (not I-ir-ny, spelled the same but pronounced differently and means "like iron") is more like a related two-part statement where both parts are true and the second part contradicts or is hypocritical of the first part. The second part can also be omitted if it's common knowledge like in my example.

I don't believe iron is pronounced like that, and I think "ferrous" is the word for "like iron" or more accurately, "containing iron."
edit: of course, you were probably joking, but I take this very seriously!

[Edited by NotEnoughGolds]

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Its like 10,000 spoons that although made of Sterling are still questionably dirty for your purpose.

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Well Waltz, if it takes nearly a year for you to put in enough serious thought to choose an avatar, I'd hate to know how much serious thought it takes for you to make more important life decisions. Plus, not choosing is a choice itself. You are choosing for yourself an anonymous smiley face that causes people to confuse you with Orlick here. Is it so hard to find an image of a waltzing elf?

Come on, friends,
To the bear arcades again.

Bankai

weirdadam wrote:

Well Waltz, if it takes nearly a year for you to put in enough serious thought to choose an avatar, I'd hate to know how much serious thought it takes for you to make more important life decisions. Plus, not choosing is a choice itself. You are choosing for yourself an anonymous smiley face that causes people to confuse you with Orlick here. Is it so hard to find an image of a waltzing elf?

An avatar is THE MOST IMPORTANT decision a person can make - it's a window to the soul.

Or something. I'm actually just really bad at knocking up decent avatars. Does anyone have 5 minutes spare to knock me up one? I'll be very appreciative, as it will save me from being confused with Orlick.

StarBoy91

I once considered making a waltzing elf avatar for WaltzElf, though to be quite honest I can hardly picture it on Paint.

To each their own

cheetahman91

Eugene+Wrayburn wrote:

Is it not ironic that console gaming continues to become more and more like PC gaming with increased funding of PC type Genre Games, subscription online method services, hard drives, game installations on hard drives, downloadable content and patches, online multiplayer emphasized over local multiplayer, and digital media replacing physical media?

Except for Nintendo.

And ironically Nintendo receives heavy criticism for those facts, and is said to be the 'casual one'.

Further irony, i-phone is becoming the 'go-to' 'console' for well known, established game franchises such as Metal Gear and Street Fighter, while DS - a wildly successful console, becomes a dumping ground for casual shovelware by major publishers.

SO - the telephone is the 'hardcore' game platform, even though its main emphasis is telecommunication.

While the successful game console's traditional physical media drive is spurned in favor of a digital app service.

This adds further ironic twist to the consumer - even though the consumer has shown great commitment by purchases a traditional device thats sole purpose is to play videogames, developers crap on them with their established game properties by selling them to phone customers.

That is ironic.

What is sad is how accepting game consumers and game media are off all of these ironic facts - their rights as console owners are being crapped on, and they are beginning to receive less and less product and respect for their money. Because console popularity and user base size are ironically losing out to fad baiting, digital media, and self defeating 'casual' game branding.

Why not give game console owners video games? You know - true, blue, video games?

Isn't it ironic that 'traditonal' videogames will not make it on Nintendo platforms? Except Nintendo makes them all the time and they do great business?

Isn't it ironic that the so called 'casual' lineup on Wii by Nintendo - Wii Sports, WSResort, Wii Play, and Wii Music - are more difficult to complete then established 'core' games like Twilight Princess and Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3?

Like Street Fighter?

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WaltzElf wrote:

weirdadam wrote:

Well Waltz, if it takes nearly a year for you to put in enough serious thought to choose an avatar, I'd hate to know how much serious thought it takes for you to make more important life decisions. Plus, not choosing is a choice itself. You are choosing for yourself an anonymous smiley face that causes people to confuse you with Orlick here. Is it so hard to find an image of a waltzing elf?

An avatar is THE MOST IMPORTANT decision a person can make - it's a window to the soul.

Or something. I'm actually just really bad at knocking up decent avatars. Does anyone have 5 minutes spare to knock me up one? I'll be very appreciative, as it will save me from being confused with Orlick.

What kind of avatar do you want?

Just let it happen.

Bankai

110percentful wrote:

WaltzElf wrote:

weirdadam wrote:

Well Waltz, if it takes nearly a year for you to put in enough serious thought to choose an avatar, I'd hate to know how much serious thought it takes for you to make more important life decisions. Plus, not choosing is a choice itself. You are choosing for yourself an anonymous smiley face that causes people to confuse you with Orlick here. Is it so hard to find an image of a waltzing elf?

A waltzing elf would be awesome, but failing that any of the characters from Final Fantasy X, X-2 or XII.

An avatar is THE MOST IMPORTANT decision a person can make - it's a window to the soul.

Or something. I'm actually just really bad at knocking up decent avatars. Does anyone have 5 minutes spare to knock me up one? I'll be very appreciative, as it will save me from being confused with Orlick.

What kind of avatar do you want?

A waltzing elf would be awesome, but alternatively, Chocobo from Chocobo's mystery dungeon, please

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Percentful

Unfortunately, waltzing elves are extremely hard to find, so I think I'll find you a good Chocobo pic.
EDIT: Hows this? Untitled
There are a lot of different types, so being specific helps.

[Edited by Percentful]

Just let it happen.

NotEnoughGolds

weirdadam wrote:

Plus, not choosing is a choice itself.

You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose freewill.

NotEnoughGolds

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