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BruceCM

Yeah, well, I reckon I can play all the games there in a year, @BlueOcean .... Since there'll be plenty I either can't get on with or decide are worth buying Especially when they have sales & there's other ways to get the games, too! Like how Red Dead Redemption Special Edition is now half price, new, in Game & that seems to be a permanent reduction

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BlueOcean

@BruceCM I still buy some games, last one I got was Team Sonic Racing but with Game Pass I don't buy as many games as before and save money, which is the point I guess. So how much Ultimate did you get?

The thing I like the most about Game Pass is not saving money though, it's that I can try and play lots of games at no extra cost, my childhood's dream coming true.

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BruceCM

1 year, @BlueOcean. ... If there's enough games left by then, I can get more Since I can finish a couple of decent offline single-player games in a month, it'd still be a good deal

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BruceCM

Yep, @BlueOcean .... Since I do have quite a few games I definitely want to play apart from GamePass, I'll probably not get more immediately after the 1st year, though

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BruceCM

Well, everything has been dispatched.... Most of the games should be here tomorrow & monitor. Hopefully, the console will be Monday (that only had a 3-5 day delivery available)

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BlueOcean

@BruceCM You are going to love the controller and will be delighted with the good deals and sales.

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NEStalgia

@BlueOcean Tomb Raider 1 had some great puzzle areas, but yeah, it felt like an Uncharted clone. Which does have a hint of irony since ND has said Uncharted was more or less a Tomb Raider clone.... Art imitating art that was imitating itself....

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BruceCM

The nice red controller, @BlueOcean .... I got Watch Dogs 1 & 2 pre-owned physical cheaper than the 'super sale', though

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BlueOcean

@NEStalgia Ha, ha! Yeah, a friend came to my house and asked, "What is this?" while taking one of the Uncharted games out of the glass cabinet and, before I could reply, he said, "Is this like Tomb Raider but with a man?". "Yeah, but Tomb Raider is better", I replied. Uncharted is all about the voice acting and visuals. However, Tomb Raider has visuals that are as beautiful and, more importantly, good gameplay. I think that the new trilogy is underrated because of being compared to Uncharted which, inexplicably, is more popular and also because the old Tomb Raider, the really old ones anyway, are based on riddles. That's why Rise of the Tomb Raider is one of the best games of the generation in my opinion, because it has it all and even more. Skipping the new Tomb Raider games is skipping three of the most enjoyable games of the generation for no reason.

What did the new Tomb Raider games copy from Uncharted? Perhaps the cinematographic additions resulting in bad writing and an incoherent Lara that makes little sense. They copied one thing but messed it up. Is Uncharted the first cinematographic game or just an interactive film with terrible controls, anyway?

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ThanosReXXX

@BruceCM Well, sounds like you got a great deal, all in all, so congrats. And with a year's worth of Live Gold AND GamePass you should have plenty of games to play...

Be sure to keep an eye on the Games with Gold page online, or via the Games with Gold app on your Xbox One. You may never know when a free game arrives that might be to your liking, or that makes you curious enough to at least give it a try.

Something to also keep in mind: once you've got the console, there's three other games that you can get for free outside of Games with Gold as well, namely Crackdown, Crackdown 2 and Too Human. The free Crackdown games are part of a promotion for Crackdown 3, and Too Human was more a kind of "save it for posterity while we can" initiative, seeing as the company who made it no longer exists and the rights have now apparently reverted back to Microsoft, who more or less immediately put it in the digital store and made it backwards compatible.

I do have to mention that all three are probably an acquired taste for most, but personally, I had more than enough fun with all of them, and they're free, so I won't be looking any gift horse in the mouth.

On a side note: which site did you end up using to get the Live Gold subscription?

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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BruceCM

Never got into Uncharted but, all other things being equal, I prefer Lara as a protagonist.... @BlueOcean
I'll check it all out more, @ThanosReXXX but I 'brought' Inside free with gold! I'll be sure to try other freebies, too; was already wanting to try Crackdown

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BlueOcean

BruceCM wrote:

Never got into Uncharted but, all other things being equal, I prefer Lara as a protagonist.... @BlueOcean

Not equal, the Tomb Raider games are objectively much better regardless of your sexual orientation (if that's what you mean). Also, Resident Evil is objectively better than The Last of Us which is a bit like Uncharted, great voice acting and impressive visuals, but with zombies. Critics glorify these games for some reason, I assume it is because the production value is very high, the actors perform very well and The Last of Us introduced a lesbians story which is always shocking although it should not. They forgot to review the gameplay though.

BruceCM wrote:

The nice red controller, @BlueOcean .... I got Watch Dogs 1 & 2 pre-owned physical cheaper than the 'super sale', though

I came back to Watch Dogs and the more I play it the more I like it, I even hated it when I started it. I didn't even know how to select a different weapon of each kind because the game doesn't explain but I saw tiny arrows on the menu and pressed right and left and voila. Once you learn the somehow unique controls and have upgraded your abilities a bit the game is a lot of fun. I have completed most of the side quests and tasks which I recommend because you get experience and skill points. I have unlocked most skills and just the final chapter is left but I'm going to beat the rest of side quests. I like Aiden and even like the story now.

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NEStalgia

@BlueOcean Haha, yeah. It's weird. Old Tomb Raider (which is what Uncharted had to copy from) was almost like a slightly more action-oriented Point and Click adventure game. The action never controlled very well, but it was mostly about wandering around the same area trying to figure out how the mechanisms worked ,etc.

I don't know if it's fair to say Uncharted is more popular though. Tomb Raider, after all, spawned an entire series of big budget movies with top paid stars and was a pop culture phenomenon. Uncharted hasn't quite hit that pinnacle. Even non-gamers know who Lara Croft is. Most wouldn't know Nathan Drake. In a way I think it's because of the success of Tomb raider that the new trilogy doesn't get the praise it was expected to (Square Enix thinking 1 would push 9M in 6 months, the X1 timed exclusivity not really paying off, etc.) Uncharted doesn't have to live up to anything except being better than the previous one and being a memorable experience for Sony owners. Tomb Raider games have to live up to an idealized concept of what one of the biggest names in gaming is supposed to be, and if it's anything other than an unprecedented transcendental experience, it's a disappointment. Or, rather, "Pokemon Syndrome"

I think of the new trilogy it's the 1st one that tried too hard to be Uncharted. The cinematographic bent, the dialogue and environment, but most importantly the awkward gun-play focused shooting gallery gameplay mixed with cliff climbs and brief puzzle dungeons.

The story arc also felt like an Uncharted format script...but..then...Uncharted just copied the older Tomb Raider type scripts, so that makes sense.

The second two went back to the roots more and left that shooting gallery Uncharted gameplay behind more or less. For Uncharted 1 I'd say it's mostly an interactive movie with terrible controls. Two is a little more gamey. I thought 3 was a lot of fun, honestly. 4 was a better video game, than the first 3, but 3 got that "movie/game" balance they were aiming for I think.

Even as someone that does like the Uncharted series, I can honestly say I personally don't think ND was ever a particularly great studio. Jak and Crash are also kind of so-so in the gameplay and design. People love their worlds and characters enough to overlook the less than great gameplay. Like modern Sonic.

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BruceCM

Well, I haven't played enough Uncharted to say about the games beyond the protagonists, @BlueOcean .... I'd like to play The Last of Us but it'll have to come to XBox or Switch

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BlueOcean

@NEStalgia Exactly, the first Tomb Raider games were like point and click adventures but in 3D and with a few enemies. The controls were tank-like which reminds me how smooth the controls and the camera are in the new games and that's one of the reasons why they are more enjoyable than Uncharted: gameplay, controls and camera.

True, Tomb Raider is more popular as a franchise and Lara Croft is one of the most popular video game characters ever, I was referring to the Uncharted games overshadowing the new Tomb Raider trilogy somehow. Probably it's because of what you said, Square Enix's unrealistic expectations and risky exclusivity choices.

Uncharted 1 is so frustrating! I enjoyed 2, 3 and 4 because of the story and voice acting and some fun segments (races, etc.) but the gameplay is disappointing and frustrating somehow but much improved in 4. The Lost Legacy is also good but short.

The best 3D Sonic game is Team Sonic Racing and then Sonic Generations . Too bad that Sonic Generations is not 60 fps on Xbox One X because gameplay is way too fast.

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BruceCM

@NEStalgia & @BlueOcean, what you should try is playing TR 1 & 2 on a phone.... Just with touchscreen controls!

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BlueOcean

@BruceCM I played Tomb Raider 1 on PC, I remember that it was the "first" proper 3D game in Europe because Super Mario 64 was released in 1997. I watched it running on Saturn in a shop. Oh boy, I was just a kid. @NEStalgia is older.

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NEStalgia

@BlueOcean Uncharted 1 really hasn't aged well. The gameplay design feels like something from 1999. The gunplay is just bad, but the worst part is it's long and tedious. You get to a new era and the enemies just come coming into the arena in the same spots forever and ever. You just want to move on, but you can't....it's just wave after wave. And then you get toward the end and you inexplicably get zombies. Kinda sorta tied to the story, but really it was just zombies randomly appearing. It just got so weird. Most of the series has supernatural stuff, but it didn't take the same bizarre "Last of Us Prototype #4" turn as the first one did. 2 still had the "waves of enemies syndrome" going on, but it at least felt better and more fun and less monotonous.

I've bought all the old Sonic games on X1 (including Adventure 2............ I hate myself. ) but yeah, Generations remains one of the best Sonic games. Sonic CD is a really nice treat though. The last of the true Sonic games (before Mania.)

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