@NEStalgia Break-away cable? Yeah, NOW they do. A couple of generations too late for my poor N64...
I'm seriously beginning to doubt your racing skills, though. I actually won quite a few races with the BMW.
I selected the standard white one (M4), and selected the black and orange decal/cover set for it. Was my standard car for quite a few races. But maybe it's because I already played the previous Forza Horizon games, in which case I should give you the benefit of the doubt, because then it's just about getting more used to how cars control in Forza Horizon.
Oh, and I do believe it's called a Beemer, not a bimmer. Beemer as in: Bee-Em-Double You...
I think you're correct on the tags: those are ghosts from other players. (EDIT: Drivatars aren't ghosts, obviously)
I even came across one of my friend's gamer tags, even though he wasn't online at the time. But I also remember reading that it is a mix of the two. They call them "Drivatars", as in avatars of your gamer tag, driving around in the world, even if you're not there. It's AI making your car drive around without you at the wheel, and it's supposed to be more incentive for competitive gameplay. As in: "I want to beat that total stranger's computer-controlled car"...
Too bad that you yourself don't get any experience points for letting your AI-abused car beat someone else...
But it can obviously also happen that multiple people are playing the same game, at the same time, in which case, you could meet a real person, depending on where he or she is on the map. If I remember correctly, you can only communicate in-game with horns (or pressing X) when it concerns computer-controlled cars, and when it's real people that are in the game at the same time, then there's obviously an option for voice chat.
Since I don't own Horizon 4, I have no idea if the Drivatars have returned, but if not, then that might be the main difference in online play, so you'd only be coming across and racing against actual people online. But perhaps someone else can shed some light on that specific question of yours.
As for the expansion: you wouldn't have to worry about forgetting it, since (as I mentioned before) it will automatically unlock at a certain number of opened festivals, so if you would still not have downloaded the expansion by then, the game would automatically prompt you to do so, when you've opened enough festivals and you reach the destination on the map where the expansion is supposed to be.
@Dezzy Here's some more of that, and some first-hand details from one of the developers himself, during the Inside Xbox segment after the main presentation at this year's E3:
@NEStalgia ODST being DLC for MCC in 2015 is one of the big reasons why lots of people are hoping for ODST Firefight and Reach to be added after the base MCC is fixed. The concept of 1 place for all your pre-XB1 FPS Halo content.
@NEStalgia Okay, seems I was only half right about the Drivatars. The concept actually DOES gain you rewards under certain circumstances, such as "hiring" Drivatars from other people you know, which means that once you've done that, the points they themselves gain from then on, will also be rewarded to you.
@ThanosReXXX Yeah, you should doubt my racing skills, I'm not a racing buff Last racer I played was either NFS Rivals on PS4 launch or NFS Most Wanted on WiiU launch window But dang that Beeeeeeeeemer is swishy. (Yeah, I usually say Beemer as well, but it seems to have become a slang around here to use "Bimmer" (even mod shops are using that now on ads)....which to me just sounds that much more absurd....so I abuse it whenever I can. Nothing quite says "pretentious d-bag" like a blue Bimmer. (except maybe a silver Audi, for those that are too hipster and choose something different, ironically...) Obviously it's a bit different in perception on your side of the pond, naturally. But here it remains the vehicular equivalent of aviators and leather bomber jackets
@Dezzy The Real Life Engine one on the right looks totally off. There's this noise present ruining the texture fidelity through most of it, the microcontrast on the edges seem overshaprened, and it's clear the anti-aliasing is overdone, you can see the sharp edges and the softness in textures all over it. I'm not even sure it's running in native 4k, that looks maybe scaled to me. And the lighting effects are kind of sloppy. Too much bloom, and I'm betting it doesn't have HDR. I'm not impressed. I'm sure someone will mod it on PC and it will be better there.
(And if you're not laughing, you need more coffee/tea.)
@Grumblevolcano Ahhhh, I get it now, I thought people were hoping for JUST online Firefight plus all of Reach and not ODST campaign....I hadn't realized the mention of Firefight was because ODST campaign was already available! That's just too cool! I don't care about Firefight, but I'd love to have Reach just to round out the collection. I have the disc still, but it would be nice to be in the MCC.
@ThanosReXXX Ahh, cool about Drivatars....so that does explain it, it's not really a shared world, but a simulation of a shared world using player data, while Horizon 4 has an actual shared world. Makes sense. I still actually dislike the actual shared world in a way for this, so I may like 3 more after all. But at least it makes sense
(Also, darn limeys and kiwis with the wrong side of the road. #notmyfault #theroadiswrong)
@NEStalgia Well, I'm still wondering how they came to say "Bimmer", then because it sounds like crap. Possibly some lousy and completely un-funny attempt at sounding German or something...
By the way: that video I posted also has some more information on the new things in Horizon 4, so that might be an interesting watch for you as well.
As for driving on the wrong side of the road: nowadays, we're in total agreement, but I assume you know how that came to be? If not: it has everything to do with knights and/or noblemen on their horses and which side was their sword arm, which was the right arm. so they had to stay on the left side of the road to be able to freely swing their swords without lopping off the head of their horse...
Nowadays, English noblemen and drivers just use the right side window of their respective vehicles to stick out their "giving the finger" arm...
As for that shared world, though: I re-watched that video that I myself posted a couple of comments back, and if you look at it from a perspective of how these types of games have evolved, it actually sounds like a step back: shared world, as explained in the video, also means the same seasons and the same time of day for everyone everywhere in the world, so you could be playing in the evening, and in the game, it could be in the morning or in the middle of the day, depending on where the servers are.
A couple of years back, the big thing in racing sims and online racing in general, was "now with real time clock and weather", but with the whole shared world thing, we're actually going back to how it used to be in those older race games again. But regardless of that, it still looks and sounds like a really great game, and seeing as I have all the previous three games as well, I'll probably get this one at some point as well.
@ThanosReXXX No idea how they came up with Bimmer, but it's a thing....and Bimmer owners seem to respond to it by buying stuff from places that call it a Bimmer..... I guess they used to identify is Beemer owners but now identify as Bimmer owners. Bunch of hipsters, the lot of them.
Actually I may grow to like the left side if I can use my sword arm to deal with blue Bimmer owners! Good show Britons! That right there is forward thinking! Inventing the future, yesterday!
Hmm, that's an interesting point on time of day in the shared world I didn't think about....although that brings up another point. If it's set in the UK that means it probably follows the time of day and seasons of those locales in the UK, so I guess it makes sense that everyone sees London at the same time in the time of day/season that it actually currently is in London at that moment. So maybe that's not a negative. Yeah it's daytime as I play at night: But in London it's actually daytime so the world is shown the same a live TV camera would show it. Real-time....but for the actual location of the game.
I just dislike the broken immersion of actual people doing things actual people do rather than a more idyllic "this is my road fantasy" escape. If I wanted to deal with real people on the roads I'd go outside.
@NEStalgia Well, in that case, this shared world thing should be right up your alley. You'll always be playing in the wrong time of day from your perspective...
Over here, it's only a one hour difference, so depending on winter or summer, that means practically no difference with real life.
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@ThanosReXXX Wrong side of the road, wrong time of day....it's kind of symmetrical when you think about it
@redd214 well isn't that interesting. I'll file that under things I'd rather not have stored in my brain but now do The history part where "beemers" were not all owned by said pretentious d-bags is a highlight
@NEStalgia trust me if there's on thing we have an over abundance of in my area its BMW drivers who don't understand the concept of lanes or turn signals or stop signs lol. I know what you mean 😂
Since when has Horizon ever had a real-time clock? I can drive around for hours at a time whether online or offline and go through an entire day cycle and a half in about two.
And it was already confirmed for FH4 that seasons last a real world week, so any talk of real-world clocks/seasons isn't needed for this series. And you can revert back to a Drivatar-based world in Horizon 4 if you don't want to see annoying [bleep]s drawing 'things' on an airport runway.
@redd214 I think several years in a row BMW drivers, and specifically, for some reason, Cobalt Blue BMW drivers have been rated consistently the worst drivers in America (at least in terms of reported violations.) Silver Audi owners are giving them a run for their money these days though as more people convert So when I saw a blue (not Cobalt though) M4 in the game, I figured it was fitting since I knew I'd be flying off the road and ramming into everyone all the time, swerving like a maniac. I figured I might as well go for all out simulator.
@DarkRula They said seasons last a week? Ohh, that's interesting, the main presentation made it sound like it was tied to real seasons so if you play in Winter you see Winter, if you play in Fall you see Fall (like Animal Crossing New Leaf.) Also SUPER cool that you can jump back to drivatars....I may just like 4 after all! There's enough blue Bimmers to deal with controlled by humans in real life, I'd rather my game time be spent away from them
@DarthNocturnal It's amazing how they're treating MCC as this sort of limitless free (or cheap DLC) content world to keep throwing stuff at. That one game has more content than all of Nintendo's E3 this year! (bada bing!)
@redd214 Well, the only thing I learned is that my fellow Americans have now, apparently since a couple of years, adapted a misnomer for Beemer (which was always just a nickname for the brand in general, not for cars or bikes specifically) that reminds me WAY too much of a couple of words that I can't type here, due to them being NSFW, or even NSFH... (small hint: one of them has something to do with tossing salad)
@DarkRula Forza Horizon never had a real-time clock, but this shared world thing is at the very least a real-time clock for one region of the world, apparently. And what's needed or not for the series, will more than likely be decided by the developers, not by the players. Player feedback is only one small part of the entire equation, after all...
As for those drawings on runways: you do know what they say about the relationship between the size of a man's car and a certain appendage...
Feeling the need to also draw bigger than life versions of that appendage, is probably just another expression of that same symptom...
@NEStalgia By the way: what's up with the aversion to the color blue? I truly wonder what has happened over there, in the 39 years that I've been away. A couple of years ago, all or most of the sneers were about hybrid or electric cars, and they're almost always blue. Even standup comedian/ventriloquist Jeff Dunham used it in one of his shows, mentioning a "powder-blue Prius".
Well, needing a single time for a server world for online lobbies I can understand, as that would be a terrbile thing to be dealing with if someone had to drive in the dark while everyone else was in the day, and for someone else it was raining.
As for the world itself in 4, I'm hoping we see Birmingham sometime soon. And some cars blasting down the M5, though I doubt very much whether you'd see the McDonalds and Toys R Us just off Junction 2 in the game.
@ThanosReXXX No aversion to blue, it's what I said to redd, that the Cobalt Blue BMW specifically is involved in more violations than any other car model for several years in a row (as of a few years ago anyway), making it rated the "worst drivers in America". It's not blue: It's specifically the Blue Bimmer that's infamous
I don't know about blue/hybrids/electrics though, I haven't heard that one. Must be a west coast thing? I've never equated them with a color. Bumper stickers, yes. Colors, no
@DarthNocturnal At least something lives on somewhere. I fear here we're going to have Walazon forever and ever. At least until Alibaba takes over everything.
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