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BlueOcean

Dezzy wrote:

@BlueOceanThey haven't undercut them though. The main console is the same price, and Xbox wins on digital easily.

They matched Series X price and undercut it with PS5 SAD. The question is, how relevant PS5 All-Digital Edition is compared to Series X?

BlueOcean

Dezzy

@BlueOcean

Well I thought it went without saying that the digital version would be cheaper than the Series X. Even if it cost more to manufacture, it just makes sense for them to sell it cheaper because they'll make the money back from increased profit on digital sales.

The much smaller gap between digital and physical means that I'll just get the physical version when I finally buy a PS5. £100 difference. That's paid for by just 2 full price games that you buy and then resell (when you'd otherwise have to spend that money permanently on digital). So I don't think the digital would be worth the price with PS5.

Whereas with Xbox, digital is absolutely worth the price given that gamepass exists.

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BlueOcean

Dezzy wrote:

@BlueOcean

Well I thought it went without saying that the digital version would be cheaper than the Series X. Even if it cost more to manufacture, it just makes sense for them to sell it cheaper because they'll make the money back from increased profit on digital sales.

Don't forget that PS5 prices were rumoured to be higher because of the SSD, controller, etc. They have announced the prices after Microsoft. Otherwise, PS5 would be more expensive than it is, both versions. So it's not "it makes sense to sell cheaper than" but "they have waited for Microsoft in order to change the price of their consoles".

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Ninfan

what will everyone buy xbox series X or S ?

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BlueOcean

@NEStalgia Sony has stopped believing in generations. Sony's "next-gen" games Horizon 2 and Spider-Man Miles Morales confirmed for PS4 and PS5.

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Ninfan

@BlueOcean said So Sony has stopped believing in generations, huh?

that does'nt sound good, what does it mean?

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BlueOcean

@Ninfan Microsoft say that Series games will be released for Xbox One for two years. Meanwhile, Sony say that they believe in generations and making PS5 exclusive games that won't be held back by the current generation, alluding to Microsoft's diametrically opposed strategy.

Then Halo Infinite is shown and automatically bashed and Microsoft decides to delay it so the Series version looks more next-gen and, more importantly, backpedal regarding Xbox One support. The only Xbox game that is being "held back" by Xbox One now is Halo Infinite because it has been in development for the longest time and the Xbox One version has been re-confirmed:

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo-infinite

However, the other Xbox games have ditched the Xbox One version so they don't need to hold back now:

https://www.gematsu.com/2020/07/everwild-drops-xbox-one-versi...

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/avowed

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/fable

Flight Simulator appears as "Windows 10" game but it's confirmed to be coming to Series. It was supposed to come to Xbox One too but the Xbox One mention was removed from the last trailer.

And at the last minute, Sony reveals that Horizon 2 and Spider-Man Miles Morales are not next-gen games as previously advertised but cross-gen games, so their "We believe in generations" motto was a lie to stand out as the ones pushing the technology behind the new games. Or they just play chicken game and copy Microsoft so much that they copied their cross-gen strategy while hypocritically rejecting it. Because delaying games and cancelling current-gen versions is something that can happen naturally but developing cross-gen games that support PS4 and PS5, that's something that Sony knew and hid right from the start.

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Grumblevolcano

@BlueOcean Horizon 2 is definitely going to be held back by PS4, Guerrilla Games said some features they wanted to put in the first Horizon were cut because of PS4 specs not being good enough.

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BlueOcean

@Grumblevolcano Series S and X have the same CPU so they can have the same games running at different resolution but if you make a game for PS4 and PS5 there are things you have to consider; for starters, the PS4 HDD which is ancient technology compared to the ultra-fast PS5 SSD.

BlueOcean

Justifier

It is just hilarious that spiderman and horizon is cross-gen games after all.

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NEStalgia

@redd214 Thanks! that does sound a lot easier, indeed! 11:00AM sounds a lot better than 3:00AM; Of course "easy" is relative considering how fast they will probably sell out

Still curious how XAA will be handled with that. It really sounds like a bad combination - credit applications and "5 minutes before they're all gone!" buying windows

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redd214

@NEStalgia yeah definitely! Last night I had my computer displayed on 2 screens, a tablet and 2 phones up at the same time trying to secure preorders lol. It sucked but at least I got it done. Hopefully will be better for you guys with the S/X!

redd214

NEStalgia

@redd214 Haha, same. I had one desktop PC in one room, my phone, and my Surface all going at it! It's a good thing too - the difference between BB cart page behavior on the phone and the PC, despite using "desktop version" on the phone is the thing that made it happen at all!

Are you going all xCloud for XB this gen? (And/or scalping any SeX/SeS?)

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redd214

@NEStalgia Definitely all Xcloud for the time being, it's exactly what I hoped it would be. Though honestly with the schedule of Switch/PS5 games for 2020/21 I'm not sure they'll be a point lol.

I burned through all the Xbone games I wanted to check out (mainline Halos, Recore, Gears, Forza of course etc) and all the other games currently on Xcloud I already have on ps/switch so not urgent at the moment. The $25 a month offer for the S is VERY attractive but at the same time literally don't think I'd have time to even take advantage (same issue I had with the one s for the most part). I'll sub to Ultimate here and there as needed but Microsoft has made a good play with xcloud. Will hold onto my $1 resub offer for as long as possible!!

Won't be don't any "reselling" for a while I think lol. Mainly did it last year or 2 to fund PS5 launch so not a real need to now. Except for 3D AllStars. Totally scalping that next year lol!!

redd214

NEStalgia

@redd214 I'm still hoping xCould gets a PC client. It's crazy it doesn't have one. Though I might just set up my old 1X since I'm apparently not trading it up and walking into a probably plague-ridden GameStop come November, and using it as an around the house streaming server for some of the games. I need to find a cheaper client for it than Surface though. Otherwise I might get a cheap Android tablet or something to try with it (I'm not going to drain my phone battery to play games. Who knows when there's 5 hours of preorders to use it to hunt down )

But I definitely could find some uses for xCloud once I get Ultimate going. I'm not good at hunting the $1 deal though, and I still have 6 months of gold to expire without it (unless I do XAA)

I still have a massive backlog of old games to go through....I mostly want the new hardware to play those even better (Witcher 3 getting a free upgrade next year, etc!) the new games are great, and Ratchet is probably the only $70 day one game I'll ever buy. I'd say Fable and Avowed, but thanks to GP I'm not worried about those. On PS, even GoW without the load screens sounds dreamy.
power!

Haha, since you're not reselling, those extra PS4s are definitely going to happen to force you into it. It always works out that way! I wonder if 3D All Stars will really command tons of value or if they're producing so many they'll all just sit there? I'm definitely opening that one tomorrow.... I've waited 15 years for Sunshine!

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Ralizah

Man, if Microsoft lands this preorder period versus the clown show that happened with PS5...

@BlueOcean Sony isn't really doing a good job of undercutting Microsoft considering the Series S is $100 lower than the digital PS5. Xbox Series X is, far and away, the most powerful of the two consoles, and they're launching for the same price. It's not as devastating as the weaker Xbox One launching for $100 more than the PS4, but it's still not a good look.

So Xbox has both the most powerful console and the cheapest console. And Sony is occupying some weird in-between space.

And two of their biggest exclusives in the system's launch year are cross-gen with PS4. And people will be driven to those versions because of how hard it is going to be to even obtain a PS5 any time soon.

Jesus christ.

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redd214

@NEStalgia yeah it's nutty that it's not on PC officially yet. I had an opportunity to try the beta (maybe alpha who knows) of the pc client during the summer time I believe and it worked perfect. Fully expected it to launch when the full thing released but I guess MS has other plans.

Down to only 2 ps4s at the moment, 3 if you count the 500 M one but honestly I think that's actually one thing I may hang onto barring an absolute emergency. The pro and a few controllers will be getting sold soon though to pay for launch games, going to hold onto the slim I got BF last year just in case but it'll mainly be a remote play device to finally be able to play certain games with both of the kiddos at once.

As far as 3d AllStars goes, while I do want to try all 3 as they're undeniable classics that I've never been able to play, I can't honestly say I'm dying to try them out the moment the package comes tomorrow. If there's a decent premium on it come March I may flip it but if not I'll just open it and play em when I have a chance, definitely won't be starved for games the next 6 or so months!

redd214

BlueOcean

@Ralizah Yes, it's not like the more expensive Xbox One VCR. Microsoft now has the cheapest console and the most powerful console for the same price as PS5 with PS5 Digital in between the two. It's quite interesting and much better than in 2013. It's going to be interesting in the long term because all of them are going to sell out until 2021.

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