Topic: The PlayStation Fan Thread

No, there are still more remasters than delayed games on PS4. Remasterstation 4 it will be for some time.

@SuperWiiU: don't forget indiestation

But seriously for a second, delays are good as long as they justify it in the end with a high quality product. A month, two months or several months, I'd rather wait and I have plenty to do in the meantime. As of now Uncharted isn't a series I care about, sucks for those that do though. At least we won't have to go through another Sony conference with their headliner being this game, that's been my main gripe with this, get it released and over with before E3 Sony and move onto something else. Please. Particularly for Naughty Dog's sake, just get them making The Last of Us 2 ASAP.

Idk what it is but Sony first party sure are having a difficult time with PS4.

@WebHead: absolutely 100% undeniable. I've only had one first party game on PS4 in over two years(!), and even that was just the PS3's best (debatable) game remastered a year after its original release. The Last Guardian, Ratchet & Clank, Dreams, Gravity Rush and Horizon Zero Dawn look like they'll put things right but is anyone honestly confident the former and the latter will release in 2016? 'Cause I sure ain't. Infamous Second Son, Kilzone Shadowfall, The Order 1886, Little Big Planet And Knack were also incredibly disappointing from what I heard the majority of people say, so even the quality of Sony's first party titles are well up for debate. I'd forgive them if I had at least half a dozen after two years like I had with the Wii U but I only have a very questionable one. Sometimes I do wonder if Sony really did kick back once the 'war' was over between the PS4 and Xbox One in sales, because at times it's like they're not even trying, at least not as hard as I expect. :/

@TheLastLugia: yeah starting to think PS4 isn't as easy to develop for as its made out to be.

@WebHead: I don't think it's that so much as Sony not needing to rush their games out since they have a comfortable lead. There's other factors too, including the fact that Sony's studios were making major games for PS3 right until the PS4's release. Another factor is that some games simply are taking a long time because they're bigger or have some sort of open world component. In Rachet & Clank's case, they had to time things to have it launch around the same time as the movie.

It's definitely been a combination of factors.

But yeah, Sony sure has taken their sweet, sweet time. Don't think I've bought a single 1st party game for the PS4 yet.

@IceClimbers: just hope they don't get too overconfident again. We all remember the last time it happened....

@WebHead:
Well, it's funny how the narrative changes. Last gen PS3 was supposedly a b*tch to developer for and exclusives were important. At the start of this gen all I heard was how PS4 was so easily to develop for and with Sony's first party studios it should be a winning combo. As we've seen there's been delay after delay, not just with first party games either, and I also don't think it should be passed over that Sony has struggled financially, Can't tell me that doesn't play some kind of role in what has gone at. There was a lot of restructuring at start of this gen. But of course none of that matter because exclusives aren't important. At least if you listen to Sony fanboys. It's ok that only inFamous Second Son and Bloodborne have been worth a damn. When you're best studio though, the one that 'cracked the code' so to speak for even the hard to develop for PS3, is struggling. Something is up.

@Gamer83: Well one thing I'll give ND is that the Amy Henning departure messed things up too.

@WebHead:
It sure did, at least in the sense that Uncharted 4 is obviously a completely different game (maybe for the better) than it was. Just simply stop giving release dates that have no shot of being met, that's all I ask.

Most of their money is going to developing VR. Horizon and Last Guardian are 2017 games. They aren't releasing in 2016. No way.

@Blast:
I would hope that's not true because if it is, it's ridiculous if you think about it. 30 million userbase on PS4, so lets throw all that money behind something that isn't proven like VR. Makes no sense if that's what is going on.

I don't think it's technical issues. If the PS4 was tough to develop for, we'd be seeing inferior multi platform releases on it like the awful PS3 versions of great games like Bayonetta and Fallout 3. Pretty much every mutliplatform game that comes out is best on PS4.

Bayonetta wasn't all down to the developing environment, but also due to it being handed down to a third party studio.

@Ralizah: Are you talking about the genuinely limited two-disc special editon Silent Hill 2 slipcase that was only available in Great Britain?

Here it is:

I had this very one, once upon a time. The little art book inside the slipcase was a real treat too, although quite gruesome!

As for Uncharted 4 being delayed; it is just by one month, and if there's anybody who can polish a game to perfection, Naughty Dog are one of the very happy few to do so. I am becoming more and more convinced that it may well end up being one of the best games of the generation, let alone next year.

I shall gladly be playing the likes of Alienation, Amplitude, Dark Souls III, Firewatch, Gravity Rush Remastered, Ratchet & Clank, Unravel, The Witness and Street Fighter V in the first four months of the year anyway. That's a ridiculously brilliant line-up, and overwhelmingly so.

Nah. Vanilla NA box art.

It's a lovely design all around. Elegant creepiness at its best. I especially like the cobweb-like substance connecting the letters of the title together.

The 'Restless Dreams' version on the Xbox has a similar box-art to the one above:

Funnily enough, despite the original Xbox having a fair bit bit more power compared to the PlayStation 2, Silent Hill 2 ran better on the latter console, especially noticeable at the beginning when you were running along the foggy path towards the car park and the toilet.

That part stuttered like MAD on the Xbox, for whatever illogical reason.

I also hope we'll see the game as part of the PS2 Classics range on the PlayStation 4 somewhere down the line. It is one of the most memorable games I have played, and I have a tough time choosing between the first two as my favourite. They are both incredible in their own right.

Steady on son, I think the least you have to do is play the game before saying things like that. Unless delays always = quality? If so how does Duke Nukem Forever and Aliens Colonial Marines figure into that equation? For me, the only game coming out that I'm certain to buy in Q1 2016 for my PS4 is The Resident Evil Origins Collection. Got it preordered for around £20, seems like a steal. Then apart from another yet another remaster in Gravity Rush, because I don't own a Vita, I couldn't care less about those other games. Hurry up with Ni No Kuni 2 Level-5!

I did say that it 'may well' for a reason,

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves and The Last of Us are arguably two of the very best and influential games of the last generation, and I cannot see why Uncharted 4: A Thief's End could well be the very best game of this generation.

It is a bit daft to use Duke Nukem Forever and Aliens: Cononial Marines as an example of a delayed game being bad. Do you really think Uncharted 4 has the potential to be settled amongst some of the worse games in the past decade?

As for the other games I listed, they are all shaping up to be something special in their own right. You might not care about them, but plenty of others do! It's a good and diverse line up of games for the first three or four months of 2016.

It's not surprising at all, actually. They just had their priorities straight and made the game with PS2 in mind and then ported it everywhere else. It wasn't even the first game that ended up with treatment like that. PS2 was best seller, while others struggled hard. Kinda like with 360, PS3 and U - why would you bust your butt to make it as best as possible on U, when there is barely any market for your game?

It is a bit daft to use Duke Nukem Forever and Aliens: Cononial Marines as an example of a delayed game being bad. Do you really think Uncharted 4 has the potential to be settled amongst some of the worse games in the past decade?

C'mon man, comparing barely 1 year delay of U4 to DKF which had like 6 studios working on it in the span of 10 years and Colonial Marines being made by frauds? It's first party Sony game and their cash cow, they won't even let it get near around avrage or even "good".
I mean, nobody cared about Witcher 1 development hell spanning for at least 7 years if we forget that the background work with diffrent studio started in 1997 and got canned. But there is nothing interesting for kotaku or ign about it, so nobody knows the struggles of this game to even come out. Witcher 2 was even better when they run out of funds half-way through and instead of going hack route like that Double Fine shill, they put their act together and searched for other ways to gather funds. But about that also nobody cared.