Because the entire PSP and PSOne classics back catalogue is nothing, right?
No, its something but the 3DS has that too. Its called the DS back catalog. And IMO, The DS library as a whole blows PSP's out of the water.
That, and the thing doesn't even play UMD's so all those games you bought won't be playable on it. I know I'll get flamed for this, but I couldn't care less about PSOne games. The 64 ruled that era as far as I'm concerned.
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Had the the 3DS not dropped its price $80 and Vita released during the holidays along side it. It very well might have been a really rough year for the 3DS and Nintendo as a whole. I think many of the gamers on the fence between the 3DS and Vita would have purchased a Vita, but with the $80 difference, I think the tide has turned in favor of the 3DS, unless Vita came out the gate with more titles in it's launch lineup.
@bboy2970 Yes, the 3DS is shaping up nicely, and very well by the time Vita releases. But, by the time Vita does release with it's launch lineup will be deeper and hopefully with a few of the new IP's in there finished up in there as well, Vita will do well for itself. Here is the game changer that answers this thread titles - Monster Hunter Vita will sell millions, but when Call of Duty lands on Vita the system sells will blow through the roof. Regardless of what you think about Call of Duty, it sells systems. Millions of gamers everyday play one game, either Black Ops, or Modern Warfare and bought either a PS3 and/or 360 to play these games. Many of these gamers used to be Nintendo fans, but Wii's iterations of the games didn't captivate enough to pull these gamers in, but when these gamers see that they can now get their online CoD multiplayer on with full dual-analog controls in a handheld while their kids are watching cartoons, it's going to sell systems like Monster Hunter does for PSP in Japan and Pokemon does for the DS. Vita isn't in trouble or nowhere near it!
Because the entire PSP and PSOne classics back catalogue is nothing, right?
No, its something but the 3DS has that too. Its called the DS back catalog. And IMO, The DS library as a whole blows PSP's out of the water.
That, and the thing doesn't even play UMD's so all those games you bought won't be playable on it. I know I'll get flamed for this, but I couldn't care less about PSOne games. The 64 ruled that era as far as I'm concerned.
Oh yeah, that's right. If someone owns a PSP that isn't a go and has a lot of UMDs that'ye totally SOL on the Vita. And yeah, N64 rules
Because the entire PSP and PSOne classics back catalogue is nothing, right?
No, its something but the 3DS has that too. Its called the DS back catalog. And IMO, The DS library as a whole blows PSP's out of the water.
That, and the thing doesn't even play UMD's so all those games you bought won't be playable on it. I know I'll get flamed for this, but I couldn't care less about PSOne games. The 64 ruled that era as far as I'm concerned.
Oh yeah, that's right. If someone owns a PSP that isn't a go and has a lot of UMDs that'ye totally SOL on the Vita. And yeah, N64 rules
It's a lesson that people should have learned long ago: Downloads = better. Nintendo fanboys don't realise that because Nintendo consoles are trapped in the caveman era of online, but anyone who isn't downloading their PSP games by now deserves to be left out.
@bboy 2970 Oh, what about all my DSi games that I couldn't transfer to my 3DS when I traded up to a 3DS and didn't need my DSi any longer? All those games were simply lost like I never bought them and Nintendo will NOT let you redownload them to you 3DS without owning both systems, and the same thing when I bought my black Wii. I've lost OVER $300 in total to Nintendo's wonderful online stores!
I'm not even going to comment back to some of the earlier post above! Every system has its ups and downs and how exactly does a system win? Sales numbers? If that is the case then, Zumba Fitness is the best game in the entire world right now as it's been destroying the sales charts. Funny thing is, the game is garbage and it's not even an actual game, but instead a fitness game to help you workout.
@Waltz: Downloads may be better (I don't necessarily agree but that's what you said) but a lot of people have PSP UMDs and still buy UMDs (like Slapshot up there). Unfortunately for Sony, there is little they can do to fix this. Its a mistake and they have to live with it. Oh and I like it here in the "caveman era" thank you very much. I like having an actual item. Downloads have their place for sure but I will always prefer physical.
@Slapshot: How did you lose 300 dollars in games?? There are like...less than 10 DSiWare games that can't be transferred to 3DS.
@Waltz: Downloads may be better (I don't necessarily agree but that's what you said) but a lot of people have PSP UMDs and still buy UMDs (like Slapshot up there). Unfortunately for Sony, there is little they can do to fix this. Its a mistake and they have to live with it. Oh and I like it here in the "caveman era" thank you very much. I like having an actual item. Downloads have their place for sure but I will always prefer physical.
Actually, you're right. I forgot that my 3DS plays my original SNES cartridges. The best thing about Nintendo is that, unlike Sony or Microsoft, it never, ever makes old formats redundant.
@Slapshot: How did you lose 300 dollars in games?? There are like...less than 10 DSiWare games that can't be transferred to 3DS.
He said he traded his DSi in towards a 3DS.
Oh....I didn't get that the first time reading through his post. Well....I guess that sucks. I thought it was known before the eShop launched that it was wise to hold onto old DSis just in case. Do you have a Club Nintendo? Maybe you can call them and make a fuss and get them to refund for all your games that way?
@Waltz: Downloads may be better (I don't necessarily agree but that's what you said) but a lot of people have PSP UMDs and still buy UMDs (like Slapshot up there). Unfortunately for Sony, there is little they can do to fix this. Its a mistake and they have to live with it. Oh and I like it here in the "caveman era" thank you very much. I like having an actual item. Downloads have their place for sure but I will always prefer physical.
Actually, you're right. I forgot that my 3DS plays my original SNES cartridges. The best thing about Nintendo is that, unlike Sony or Microsoft, it never, ever makes old formats redundant.
PSP UMDs might be and old PSP format but it is still a PSP format and one that new PSP games launch on. It doesn't come close to a comparison with Nintendo cutting GBA support from DSi or cutting Gamecube support on Wii U. Those things are all old formats in the sense that they are last gen systems, not the same situation. Now if the 3DS didn't accept DS cards then fine you have an argument but it does so you don't.
@bboy2970 Yes, I've got Club Nintendo, and just got in my huge AR Card and other things today from it as well. But, I lost close to 10 NES games on my Wii and a few WiiWare and N64 titles from a Wii I sold when I went nearly two years without a decent Wii game to justify keeping the system and I upgraded to a PS3 and then I upgraded my DSi the day that I could preorder a 3DS and got a lot of money for the handheld that way, but and then all my DSiWare games in the process. Regardless, if it was a Sony or Microsoft system, I could just log into my account and download my games again, but Nintendo's wonderful system locks everything onto the console - you know because nothing every happens to consoles like lightning strikes, system failures, etc. - anyways, I rarely buy anything digital from Nintendo because of this and never will if they don't change things. I've only got a handful of titles on my black Wii and I will buy very few 3DS downloadable titles, especially after I've already had one extremely faulty system and the hassle to reclaim games is more than I care to go through when I can just download games - most of the same ones cheaper - on other formats.
I was a Wii only man for a longtime and I learned that it's not enough for me. I buy very few games on Nintendo platform because of the Friend Code debacle and I download even fewer digital games because of how easily they can be lost. Oh, and if you want you games on DSiWare game on your 3DS that you traded up for, then 'they are readily available for purchase in the eShop on your 3DS'. No thank you!
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@Waltz: Ok, fine, Gamecube didn't play N64 games. Its 10 years later and I'm over it. Every system since has at least had backward compatibility with the previous gen since then. And wow, PS3 didn't become popular BECAUSE it dropped PS2 support. It just so happened to hit its stride when they decided to drop it. Its not like people said "Oh? it won't play PS2 games anymore? well hot damn! I'm getting one for sure then!" The drop of backwards compatibility was a major negative for a lot of people for a long time.
@Slapshot: True, the account thing is something Nintendo needs to get on. It doesn't stop me though
Every system since has at least had backward compatibility with the previous gen since then.
And the Vita is backwards compatible too. Just not with UMDs.
Yep, but that sucks for UMD owners which there are many of.
Still not going to stop them buying the Vita. As the thread titles says "Is the PS Vita in trouble?" Well no.
It's backwards compatible, and has an awesome lineup of games available for download on launch, not including the actual Vita games.
Ok cool. And the 3DS is backward compatible and has an awesome line up of DS software and a library of over 300 DSiWare downloads not including the actual 3DS games. What are we arguing about again??
Every system since has at least had backward compatibility with the previous gen since then.
And the Vita is backwards compatible too. Just not with UMDs.
Yep, but that sucks for UMD owners which there are many of.
Still not going to stop them buying the Vita. As the thread titles says "Is the PS Vita in trouble?" Well no.
It's backwards compatible, and has an awesome lineup of games available for download on launch, not including the actual Vita games.
Ok cool. And the 3DS is backward compatible and has an awesome line up of DS software and a library of over 300 DSiWare downloads not including the actual 3DS games. What are we arguing about again??
It's a good question. Why is anyone bringing up the 3DS at all in a conversation about the Vita? Only one can succeed now? It's news to me, since both the PSP and DS were successful and the PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii have all been successful.
Assuming Nintendo and Sony come up with strategies to beat the smartphones and iPad (that's where the real competition is), then they'll both be fine.
as soon as you are arguing about which is/will be better and are using anything other than new games made for the new systems as evidence, I stop caring completely.
Just tell me which has superior new games, that system wins. End of story.
3DS is the safe bet, it has new Paper Mario and Rocket Slime.
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