Indeed, though it will be very interesting to see if anything comes of this new patent with the "supplemental computing device." Perhaps that, along with the cloud, could be something that would drastically raise the horsepower of anything "underpowered." Would also be a literal hub for an ecosystem.
Well the way I could see that idea working would be if it's just a simple case of being able to put the portable into "GamePad mode". But even then both products would still have to be a worth getting as their own thing. Without the portable being its own thing what we're describing is the Wii U.....
@Therad: It could technically release whenever, but it is arguably the biggest release of the console's lifetime, and big releases will always be put in the holiday window, when most game purchases occur. I don't remember far back enough, but I know TP and SS both released during the holiday period. Same will happen with this, most likely.
I wouldn't call it the biggest release of the console. While Zelda has a loyal fanbase, it is somewhat dwarfed by mario titles, both 2d, 3d and kart.
Although you are correct, I just feel that was so ridiculous and misleading, though. 1. We had already seen the mask in the previews (I forget if it was a direct or whatever, but we had seen footage and talk of the mask being on that wall was EVERYWHERE! 2. Even if point 1 wasn't so, he told us if we played through the game the question would be answered for us. And we get a mask on the wall. That does not answer the question at all like he intentionally meant to make it seem like it did! Sure, his job is to sell games. The point is, the company is not above giving out incorrect info, wrong info, or just flat doing a 180 on what they've said previously.
You do realise that most companies don't allow their staff to talk freely about games right? If they haven't announced it, it could potentially be a big hit for the company. This is nowhere on the same level as saying "Zelda for Wii U" as late as November 2015 and then have it released only on the next console. Which you still seem to believe will happen, since you still call it ZeldaNX. Most here agree that it could be a dual release, but NX only? Not gonna happen.
So, guys, I have been wondering something lately. The thing is, I really stopped playing games for over a decade so I've never owned a Microsoft console, and owned a PS2 in the early years but missed much of that console and the entirety of the PS3. I've spent the last few years catching up, though, just by reading magazines, watching walkthroughs and Lets Plays, and every other possibly thing there is out there nowadays.
One thing that seems to be apparent, though, is the grip over gaming that Zelda once had, as far as being the most unique, advanced game out here, seems to be long gone. I look at something like The Witcher 3, and watching a dragon being fought, or battles in games above the sky, all kinds of stuff, is just leagues ahead of what Nintendo seems to offer with it's games.
Now, I'm suspecting the answer to the question I'm going to ask is going to be similar to what MY answer was years ago, and that's "it's own special magic blend of elements", but here goes: What, if anything, does Zelda have that is ahead of the competition in the industry? Is ZeldaNX going to stand a chance?
Is there anything the series is still ahead of all others on, aside from maybe that magic blend of Zelda goodness?
It's surely not story!
Could they possibly have crafted a world with more explorations and variety than X, could they?
Zelda has always had an awesome fighting system (alteast with most entries), maybe they could enhance that by adding more weapons, things like fighting on horses or other animals etc. etc. This seems to be the one area they could stand out, but I don't think it' enough to stand out alone.
Anyways, before I start going down every single aspect a game COULD have over enough, what aspect do YOU feel could make ZeldaNX rise above the rest of it's competition?
Oh they're definitely winding down both. I can also see it being very likely that we'll get some sort of connected ecosystem. The only reason I don't like the hybrid idea is because a hybrid by its very nature is an expensive portable and an underpowered home console. It makes far more sense for those two tiers to be handled by different hardware.
I can only agree. If it would have anything like WiiU capabilities it would be in the same price-range as high end phones. I just can't see Nintendo taking a risk like that. Who would buy a portable at that price?
Indeed, though it will be very interesting to see if anything comes of this new patent with the "supplemental computing device." Perhaps that, along with the cloud, could be something that would drastically raise the horsepower of anything "underpowered." Would also be a literal hub for an ecosystem.
Well the way I could see that idea working would be if it's just a simple case of being able to put the portable into "GamePad mode". But even then both products would still have to be a worth getting as their own thing. Without the portable being its own thing what we're describing is the Wii U.....
I would be willing to pay a couple hundred bucks for a handheld (we already did with the 3DS) and then a couple hundred for the home unit. And a couple hundred for the home portion may be doable if it comes with just a "basic" controller (they're selling Xbox One bundles for around 300, and they include a game or two), with the possibility of linking in the handheld as the "optimal" experience.
Although there has been minimal info on Zelda WiiU, I am very optimistic for this game. Nintendo Usually comes out with the big guns after a quiet time. Hopes are still high for this nintendo lover!
@Therad: It's coming holiday '16. I'll buy you a pony if it comes out earlier than that.
I very strongly agree with that assessment, my friend!
Hey, man, I hope you're right. Nothing would make me happier than to be playing the next console Zelda this summer. Heck, anytime earlier than October '16 and I'll be very, very happy.
Anyway, I read your other post, and I think nostalgia plays a big role with Zelda (as you guessed). It just has such a culture behind it... I mean, geez, I've dragged my fiancée to the Zelda concert tour twice now lol It's just something people have grown up with and will come back to just because of the name.
Yup, I have memories of playing the original Zelda with my uncle. Lttp at sleepovers with friends. OoT at sleepovers with friends.
I have very specific memories attached to every Zelda title through OoT. I've played WW, TP and SS but got only halfway through each before something happened. I hope to start some new ones soon, though.
As an aside, though, you say you hope I'm right and that Zelda comes out before Holiday 2016, but my stance has been that it's coming Holiday 2016, not before, so I agree with you.
Although you are correct, I just feel that was so ridiculous and misleading, though. 1. We had already seen the mask in the previews (I forget if it was a direct or whatever, but we had seen footage and talk of the mask being on that wall was EVERYWHERE! 2. Even if point 1 wasn't so, he told us if we played through the game the question would be answered for us. And we get a mask on the wall. That does not answer the question at all like he intentionally meant to make it seem like it did! Sure, his job is to sell games. The point is, the company is not above giving out incorrect info, wrong info, or just flat doing a 180 on what they've said previously.
You do realise that most companies don't allow their staff to talk freely about games right? If they haven't announced it, it could potentially be a big hit for the company. This is nowhere on the same level as saying "Zelda for Wii U" as late as November 2015 and then have it released only on the next console. Which you still seem to believe will happen, since you still call it ZeldaNX. Most here agree that it could be a dual release, but NX only? Not gonna happen.
I've said about 8 times I'm perfectly open to it being a dual release. My stance is that NX is a home console launching in 2016 with ZeldaUNX (better? and you say I "still" call it ZeldaNX when I've called it ZeldaU every post but one recent one, lol) and I assume nothing else other than those 3 points.
@LetsGoRetro: Oh, sorry, for some reason I kept reading that as "disagree" lol! I guess it's just that standard dose of pessimism one gets when logging into an internet forum haha.
@SCAR:
You've said so many things at this point that what you did and didn't say is meaningless
Again, I could say the same thing. I read the posts and understand what you guys are saying, but I still don't think what you guys are saying is gonna happen. The only reason the discussion is meaningless, is because we think different things are going to happen and we aren't changing what we think. Notice how I say "we".
@SCAR:
You've said so many things at this point that what you did and didn't say is meaningless
Again, I could say the same thing. I read the posts and understand what you guys are saying, but I still don't think what you guys are saying is gonna happen. The only reason the discussion is meaningless, is because we think different things are going to happen and we aren't changing what we think. Notice how I say "we".
That was 10 pages and three weeks ago so I don't know why you're digging this up again. Best to leave dead arguments dead. I couldn't follow your multiple trains of thought then and I have zero hope of doing it now.
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Ya. Sure. I still think it's a micro console, and Dragon Quest 11 could be streamed like the 3DS version, especially if it is the PS4 version(if the graphics are any better). That's how the subscription service would make sense, especially if works for all the devices like PS+ and other Sony streaming services that are somehow not on Xbox or Nintendo.
@SCAR: Did you just question if the ps4 version of dragon quest would have better graphics than 3ds?
Ya, but I just Googled and found out otherwise. It's not like mobile games on consoles is out of the question, dude. Does anyone remember PS Mini or any other game that was multiplatform between console and portable? Ya, that's what I meant by DQ11 having the same graphics on both before I googled it 5 minutes later.
Alright ui'll make a personal list of reasons for and against Zelda U being a dual Wii U/NX game:
For:
-Gives NX a big first party launch title.
-Can look better on NX depending on the hardware.
-More sales potential
-Further celebrates the 30th anniversary of the series
Against:
-NX is probably a handheld if launching in 2016, handheld not likely to exceed 360 in terms of power so it may not be powerful enough to run it.
-Development cost for the game is probably high as is
-Depending on the gamepad dependance and NX architecture, it could be more trouble to port the game to NX than its worth. Its not like Zelda U won't sell on Wii U. And NX could easily have a Mario game at launch.
@WebHead: I wouldn't call the fact that the NX might not be a home console or might not come in 2016 a reason against it, but rather the premise on which the entire list is based on.
@SCAR: no one has said that you can't put mobile games on the big screen. The question is if it is enough of a draw to get people to buy a micro console, so much that it does in fact generate enough money to justify less resources spent on their other 4 platforms.
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