Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

I think we're putting too much emphasis on the ports. A few ports during the launch year isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Especially considering they're allegedly porting the Wii U's -biggest- games all within the first year. After those are done, they won't have much more to port over for the second year anyway, leaving only new content as an option. I do agree that relying so heavily on ports isn't desirable, but I honestly don't see it happening past the first 6 months/year for them.

From what I understand, Nintendo ports only the games that make the most sense. If you look at Mario Maker and Yoshi's Woolly World, they were both 2d side scrolling platformers and therefore are not too draining on the 3DS. Whereas Xenoblade X would be more suited for the Switch if it was to be ported due to its raw power.

Honestly I could see Bayonetta 1+2*, Mario Kart 8, Pokken*, Splatoon, Super Mario Maker, Super Smash Bros, Tokyo Mirage Sessions* and Xenoblade Chronicles X being ported over.

Whereas I could see Amiibo Festival, Captain Toad, DKC Tropical Freeze, New Super Luigi/Mario Bros U and Super Mario 3D World being ported to the 3DS.

I believe they will take the unique/memorable games from the Wii U and share them across the 3DS?Switch if they decide to do more ports and looking at it based on which game is better suited where.

EDIT: * are developed by third parties so they could be ported over through them. Doesn't necessarily mean Nintendo has to do much themselves for porting

I could believe that for W101. And regarding TMS, I could not believe Nintendo would. I would believe Atlus would. Either that or they port Persona 5. But I am very sure one of them will make it to the Switch. Allows them to test the waters

EDIT: We have to remember some of the Nintendo titles on the Wii U were developed by third parties and published by Nintendo. They could get those third parties to port them over instead of themselves.

@Operative I agree completely. Once the likes of Smash, Mario Kart, Splatoon, etc. are ported Nintendo have no reason to go back to the Wii U catalogue. They'd really be pushing it to give us New Super Mario Bros U two years into the Switch's life, for example.

I think the true concern is a lack of new titles, and it's all really just speculation at this point. My personal view is that Nintendo have clearly shifted development resources towards the Switch, so we should have nothing to worry about. If, despite that, they are still unable to provide a sufficient flow of new titles for the Switch? Then Nintendo really needs to invest in some dev teams and/or reconsider their place in the console business. Then again, I'm fairly confident that the Switch will see better third party support than the Wii U, easing the pressure on Nintendo.

@Buizel Well said. If they end up having droughts even after the port heavy first year, I think they're going to have to seriously re evaluate their development process overall. As it stands now though, I like to think them dropping wii u support this year means they've got stuff in the works for the second year of the Switch, since the first year seems decently covered already.

And I keep talking about it like everything we've seen is confirmed and the only stuff coming out. I've gotta remember this is all speculation based on the rumors we've seen at this point so it's easy to get caught up in just the ports

IMO....
They'll leave the old version behind but a sequel is very possible:
Bayonetta, Captain Toad, DKC:TF, Pikmin, Paper Mario

Enhanced ports and supported with DLC/updates going forward:
Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Splatoon, Mario Maker

Simpler ports, nothing new just releasing for a new audience:
Xenoblade Chronicles X, Zelda: BotW, various Wii games

Will be forgotten entirely for a good few years if not forever
3D World, New SMB, Nintendo Land, Amiibo Festival, Star Fox, Tokyo Mirage Sessions

Will get ported to the 3DS and haven't been announced yet
.................

I think that's very easy to do in this thread. Rumours turn into speculation, which turns into more speculation. And then you start to forget what we actually do and don't know. And on top of what may be true and might not be, plans can change.

I would have put Pokken in the Enhanced ports as they are still making characters for the Arcade version. They would not do that if the game failed.
I pretty much agree with all of that minus...
Bayonetta - Based on the fact Platinum have ported it to a fair few consoles, an old version is on the cards. Even if the port was a terrible Playstation 3 version. Given how they ported Bayonetta 1 to the Wii U despite the console's failing, I can't imagine they would not port the games to the Switch which is already looking positive
TMS - This is the very odd one. It is all down to Atlus and how they approach the Switch. This one actually effects which franchises Atlus will consider for the Switch. That and Persona 5.

Just for the record I am basing my opinion on a developer perspective past and future, what the third parties might do and various other factors. Personally I want an HD Fire Emblem Fates which is unlikely. (pretty please Nintendo)

@MarcelRguez Well that's the thing Marcel, I honestly don't know. Atlus has been changing in behavior since the last Persona main game. They started doing spin offs. They started developing Persona games on other platforms. And P5 is the first time they have made a game for a current generation and past generation. Like I said, Atlus are a very odd bunch. They do have games on Nintendo platforms so it might happen (they even had Jack Bros on the Virtual Boy!)? Who knows though. A lot of people think that Kingdom Hearts by Square Enix is a Playstation exclusive but last I checked their last big title was on the 3DS and they have made many games on Nintendo devices.

At the end of the day, Atlus go for what will sell. And given that the 3DS while not powerful was popular for RPGs, they might give the Switch a go as it has that power.

Well I think that is a good mix already. Heck they could even do Sonic Lost World. After all, who better to port the games over than the parties responsible themselves?

And I think a Hyrule Warriors version is very high on the possibility list given the popularity of the series so far

@skywake I agree with your list, except for Bayonetta for which I agree with @Grandpa_Pixel. I'd say a port of Bayonetta 2 is as likely as a Bayonetta 3. If they're willing to make a third, why not open up the 2nd game to a new audience (as they did with Bayonetta 1 on the Wii U)? I doubt it would see an individual release but may see a bundled or budget release.

On that note, on-the-go Bayonetta would be insane. I can imagine the odd glances from other people when playing on the train...

Not that I doubt it personally, but do we know for certain that "Pikmin 4" is different to the new 3DS Pikmin? Or is this still rumour territory?

@Buizel Pikmin for 3DS isn't called Pikmin 4, is it? I think that's plenty of reason to assume that the two are different. Besides, we have had rumours that Pikmin 4 is still in development for Switch and that Pikmin for 3DS is developed by Arzest. Nothing it officially confirmed either way, but the rumours are pointing to the fact that they are not the same game.

@Buizel It's still definitely rumour territory but the people ITK that reference it refer to it as 'Pikmin 4' and not '3DS Pikmin port game'. Miyamoto too inferred with his original comment on it that it is the next main game, can't be bothered to find the exact quote but I think it's a safe bet that Pikmin 4 is lined up for 2017.

Also it's funny to see these "such-and-such can't be on another system, it's always been on this one so there's no way things will change for the better!" comments still, in reference to Persona 5 here. I thought we got over that charade in like 2006/7 or whenever it was when we had the 'betrayalton' that was when Final Fantasy XIII was announced for Xbox 360 and people had meltdowns over a videogame coming out on another videogame system that they didn't like or didn't suit the game or some such nonsense because of reasons.

I think that it makes absolute sense for a game like Persona 5 to release on as many systems as possible, and so long as it isn't on Sony's payroll like Street Fighter V or Xbox's Dead Rising 4 deals then I don't see why Atlus won't want it either. Not least because they have some sort of emotional attachment to PlayStation and couldn't bear to see their games on another system.

@Buizel @Grandpa_Pixel
I agree with your points about Bayonetta I just wanted to make simpler categories to bundle stuff into. Obviously they did it with the original on the Wii U so they have form. I just don't think we'll see it without also getting a Bayonetta 3. Pure speculation like pretty much everything else I listed but still.

With Pokken let me give two reasons for why I didn't include it on that list. It could be that I think it could go anywhere. It's even less certain what they might want to do with it. It was a well received game but it's not Splatoon, Kart or Smash. So unsure of where it'd go I may have not included it. Either that or I forgot it.

@Octane @Shinion Thanks, I was just wondering what assumptions that was based on. We've known for a while that the next Pikmin instalment is in the works, but I wasn't sure if that was confirmed to be the 3DS instalment, or in addition to the 3DS instalment. I'm also unsure as to whether "Pikmin 4" is a fan-derived name or an official name (i.e. has anyone officially used the name "Pikmin 4"?)

Given the fact that amiibo will continue being a thing, I've been wondering about where the amiibo scanner is on the hardware. Perhaps that's what the bulk in the middle of the separate controller / joy-con grip is for when it's docked.

@Buizel Dug a little deeper, since Miyamoto never publicly said the words ''Pikmin 4'' himself, but he didn't deny that Pikmin 4 was in development either. When asked about it, he simply referred to it by saying; ''It's very close to completion.''

However, it appears that Ninty themselves issued the following statement shortly after the 2015 interview with Miyamoto:

"We can confirm that Pikmin 4 is in development but that is all we can confirm at present."

I think that's enough evidence to safely assume that they're separate projects.

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-07-20-pikmin-4-in-deve...

Couldn't that same logic be applied to the N3DS and yet they managed to give internal Amiibo support. And behind a screen I might add

@Grandpa_Pixel NFC scanners are really small, it's not a technical miracle or anything like that.

I know but I was helping the poster understand how easy it is to cram the tech into a tablet