Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

Okay so I just saw this on Twitter

So it's no longer a Nintendo exclusive it seems.

I will probably double dip, since its likely a port. wonder how they will handle controls. The story mode relied heavily on gamepad.

Keep trying to warn people, expecting lots of ports for the first 2 years.

@FragRed I guess it's a good sign that it's coming to the Switch, despite the Wii U release. They could've just as easily pulled a ZombiiU and ported only to PS4 and XBox One, but they're reselling it to the Nintendo market.

I really hope Switch gets the vast majority of multiplatform games, if only to constantly remind people that the Switch exists, and that it's a viable alternative to PC, PS4 and XBO. It's easy to forget about the Wii U when big releases don't have the logo attached to them.

Technically quite a few early Wii U games started development on the Wii. Quite a few early 3DS games started on the Wii. Quite a few early Wii games started on the Gamecube. Quite a few early Gamecube games started on the N64.... etc, etc...

For example Animal Crossing was first developed for and released on the N64 in Japan. Super Mario 64 was originally conceived as a SNES game before being shuffled over to the N64. And it's not just software either, the WiiMote was originally going to be an accessory for the Gamecube. Nintendo holds onto ideas until they work. So of course in the first couple of years for the Switch most content will be stuff that was originally conceived as 3DS and Wii U content.

@Whitewatermoose Ninty funded the development of Bayo 2, it won't appear on other consoles.

Skyrim is gonna be the big west 3rd party launch title isn't it?

@Octane Unless there was a timed exclusivity clause in the agreement made with Platinum Games. I'd be surprised if Nintendo agreed to that but who knows.

A good example is Tales of Symphonia; Nintendo did the localisation of that so they held the rights outside Japan whilst Namco had them within. This is why they were able to release a PS2 port. However, by the time the Chronicles HD compilation ports came out, Namco had seemingly reacquired full worldwide rights and could release it for PS3 across the board.

@Whitewatermoose TT/WB probably paid them off and/or found a loophole involving the IP in the contract I assume.

Nintendo was the publisher for LCU for Wii U so I think there's a reasonable possibility of Bayonetta 2 on XB1 and PS4.

I know this will come across as passive aggressive, but I feel like someone has to point this out.

Well, since no one has done this yet, I'll do the honors. The following things in post #7434 come across as emotional, since they contain language reserved for offending or insulting others:

Accusing someone of a logical error may be a little hurtful in itself, but it's usually necessary in a debate. However, using elaborate metaphors to describe said logical error, while referring to his brain in the way that you do, does nothing to make the delivery any more sensitive.

You spend less time talking about why he's wrong and more time reacting to it, which makes it come across as more emotional; you've misquoted him on purpose, which is insulting.

"stigma: a mark of disgrace associated with a particular circumstance, quality, or person." It's a bit of a hurtful easy to describe someone's tendacy to react to something in a certain way, isn't it? And you're fascinated by it?

You could have simply replaced this with "I don't see any reason to be upset about it," but with all of these question-marks, its more like you're reacting to it defensively. There's nothing wrong with emotion; I only bring it up because you asked what about it seemed emotional.

To be clear, I didn't have an opinion on this topic until now. If you must know, I have to agree with you; I feel the Wii U had had plenty of great games, and the Switch deserves some now. But you asked to have your post picked apart, and hopefully my reply can bring you closer to understanding why users here tend to react negatively to your posts. Posts which otherwise would not contain any kind of negative content whatsoever.

Basically, take this like Internet Etiquette 101. Of course, the Internet is a landscape of flamewars and butthurtisms, but if you do honestly wish to contribute to the Internet while facing less opposition, take heed.

@Grumblevolcano Bayonetta 2 was funded by Nintendo and it's been stated numerous times by the lead developer on the game at Platinum Games that there's no chance in it ever being ported. In fact they went as far as to compare the likelihood to that of Zelda being on PlayStation or Xbox.

I don't mind if many of the games are wii u ports or started off as wii u games. Considering many of the ps4s and xboxs first year games were re releases of games that were barely a year old, and were actually very successful, I don't blame Nintendo for taking a similar approach.

Am I thrilled that many rumored games are ports from the wii u which I already own? Not at all, but as a way to ensure the first year of the console is filled to the brim with new or semi new content, it's a good move.

I don't personally see myself getting the xenoblade port unless they add in a significant single player chunk of content that doesn't end on a cliffhanger like the original release.

@Whitewatermoose There's also Super Mario Maker rumoured.

I really don't see what's wrong with the ports. It's a pretty effective way to fill in the game droughts that happen in between Nintendo's first party titles.

@Whitewatermoose Yes I do. I can see third parties with games releasing early next year and with Switch support planned to be officially announced. There's no point in them having to make a second announcement after the January conference just to announce Switch support, makes more sense to announce it all at once.

However games releasing later in the year probably won't have any Switch announcements as there's no immediate hurry to do so.

@BiasedSonyFan you must not know me enough to know I am very far from defending every business decision Nintendo makes lol. All I'm saying is I understand why they're focusing on wii u ports. I didn't "defend" it rather than just express an understanding of it.

There's a difference between funding a game and publishing a game though.

@BiasedSonyFan okay. Doesn't change the fact that all we were doing was expressing an understanding of why Nintendo would do this. Your original post was incorrect and uncalled for. Your new post I agree with. Nintendo is trying to save money. That much is obvious. Cheaper to add on to existing games than create new ones. No one is disputing that.

Despite all these ports (and the ones that ended up transferring from the Wii U to the 3DS), you would hope Ninty's claim that the amalgamation of portable and console development would bring about quicker turnaround. Plus seeing we had barely 5 new first party games this year, you would hope there was at least some other unannounced 1st party games that would be coming to the Switch in the launch window.

Because if you've spent the last 4 years wringing every last drop of content from these Wii U games to fill your time, then it's going to be slim pickings at launch again for the faithful Nintendo fan.