Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Ralizah hmm, I will agree to disagree then. They explore pretty well how everything keeps going wrong and make a clear showing of points that if there hadn’t been a change, then abject failure is the result. So unless someone needed to see blood and guts spattered (which won’t happen in a Zelda game) it’s pretty easy to go “crap so that’s what happened”. And Hyrule is still pretty battered by the end. I do wonder how it impacts lines of succession/personal lives of characters involved that either didn’t die or had their lives altered. I suppose that is what fanfic is for. That being said if you played this before BoTW I can see some of the outrage. Because it will be harder to pick out what is divergent vs original timeline.

I’m thinking I will go back grinding on Octopath Traveler. I have a general idea of the true ending because I have the guide but I am trying to 100 percent the side quests so I can put it to rest. Almost done with GAA 1 as well. Backlog work is hard work.

@Ralizah
No doubt. Switch OLED in stock, and the Series S is also starting to appear in stock regularly. And now I understand why MS made the Series S. They were playing chess, not checkers.

I bet Nintendo is just cranking them suckers out on the assembly line.

@JaxonH Excellent. That’s great to hear. I’ll definitely boot it up. I’ve never played the fourth game so getting it bargain price made it perfect timing to jump in on that.

@Ryu_Niiyama It's good to hear you're taking so well to the game's narrative angle.

Did you play the DLC? I rarely buy additional content for games, but it adds a decent amount of story/narrative content, it might be worthwhile.

@JaxonH I see at least a few Series S consoles pretty much any time I hit a Walmart or GameStop now.

Always saw Series S as a smart move. Not necessarily from the angle of 'maybe this'll be easier to supply to people in a pandemic that has disrupted supply chains,' but it goes well with M$'s focus on sucking people into the Game Pass rabbit hole.

Keeping fairly steady with Sony in the hardware arms race is a big win for them, because basically all they need to do at this point is buy time until their Game Pass exclusives machine starts to go into overdrive.

Got my first d-pad modded joycon in the mail today. And despite not having a pivot, it's pretty good. Dang good. It can do every move with Ryu in Ultra Street Fighter II except the half circle fireball 🔥

There's just no topping that Hori d-pad, which is by far the best d-pad I've ever used in my life. It's that good.

But because you can do fireball half circles with the analog stick, it's really not an issue. And it has all the other features like HD Rumble, Gyro and wireless. I'm still gonna try to figure out a way to get that Hori d-pad into the modded joycon shell, but until then, this is 98% of the way to perfect.

@Ralizah
It's true that ppl buy what's available. Just having products on store shelves is a win. It's almost like they pulled a rope-a-dope. News outlets and leaks focusing on MS making, "the most powerful console in the world", which forced Sony's hand to go all out in response, then they come in on the sly with a $299 console that still plays all the same games and can actually remain in stock for the most part. Like... I'm starting to recognize these guys know what they're doing.

Wow, so unlocking the Necromancer was the key to clearing the second boss. Second run as a Necro, got to the boss for the first time and beat it on my first go. Sadly I had some sort of bug with the text so I missed all of the story associated with that boss, so that kinda sucks.

@Ralizah Yep! I am stuck on a few of the DLC unlocks and I think I am missing one character but having the dlc from the get go really helps keep the game from being grindy, but there is a LOT to do in this game. They do a mix of fetch quests and actual levels and I have to say I am glad for the fetch quests, there really is a lot to do. When I got to end credits I was like “oh I’ll clean up what’s left…wait why are more quests popping up?! Aww crap, there is post game…” and unlike katanakami where the post game was so insane that it put me off the game (Mahoroba is too long) I am still happily bouncing around and finishing quests.

World War Z devs just patched in gyro aiming.

Say no more. I’m in. Wish I would’ve picked it up on sale recently but, I’ll grab it in the next.

Something seems up with Mario Party Superstars matchmaking, for some reason only the MP1 boards (Yoshi's Tropical Island, Peach's Birthday Cake) appear.

@Grumblevolcano
Even when you don't select them?
Sounds pretty weird.

Random thing I realized recently, is that of the Nintendo games on Switch that I've played, a lot of them are 3rd place out of their series for me. Mario Odyssey is my 3rd favorite 3D Mario platformer, BOTW is my 3rd favorite 3D Zelda (though Wind Waker HD is so close it might be my next favorite game out of all games I've ever played), Metroid Dread is 3rd place for 2D Metroids. They remade my favorite 2D Zelda, which is only behind...two other Zelda games in general. Astral Chain is my 3rd favorite Platinum game and Luigi's Mansion games for me are basically a tie, so technically that counts? Also Animal Crossing, though the DLC might make it 2nd based on basically adding my 2nd favorite Animal Crossing to the game.

This wouldn't stand out to me but I've not played a majority of Nintendo's Switch games (for that matter, I played BOTW on Wii U, but its not like the Switch version would fundamentally change my opinion on it anyway). Just an odd coincidence that's been happening, and I doubt will continue.

@Grumblevolcano
That is weird. My daughter play every now and then, so I'll keep a look out.

@kkslider5552000
That is definitely interesting. For me, it might be most Switch games are my second favorites. Odyssey is absolutely wonderful, but I still can't overcome the amazingness and nostalgia of Mario 64 (and yes, I did play it again on the 3D Collection, so not just those rose-colored glasses lol). I hated BotW initially, but it gets better every time I replay it. I'd still put it behind Ocarina, though. And my favorite Luigi's Mansion is still Dark Moon, but 3 comes right after.

Whereas for me, as someone who wasn’t a Nintendo kid, I am getting a taste of a lot of Nintendo first party stuff for the very first time. I think it is a real shame Nintendo doesn’t better preserve and make available it’s back catalogue of first party titles. I’ve now had a taste of a lot of franchises on my Switch which have a rich history of titles that have never made it off the original systems they were launched on. I feel like this is a big slice of pie Nintendo are missing out on.

@Pizzamorg
Have you tried older Nintendo games from Wii, Wii U, NDS, 3DS, Gamecube ?
Your chance to taste the missing parts from Nintendo games.

Ahhhh!

That’s the sound of me breathing a sigh of relief, as I have finally figured out a way to get a pro controller on Switch with quality gyro, quality rumble and a quality d-pad, that still wakes the system.

The 8bitdo adapter makes the Dualshock 4 compatible if you turn on “Wired Communication” (it’s still wireless, it just needs that on to function). Gyro? Check. Rumble? Check. Quality d-pad? Check. It’s all there. It even wakes the system!

@Pizzamorg
They’ve actually sold a crap ton of their old games, or made them available in one way or another, it just doesn’t seem to be all consolidated on Switch (which is what most of us want). Wii U in particular had all these platforms games available: NES, SNES, N64, Wii, Wii U, GBA, DS, TG16, Genesis, and if you modded the Wii OS mode (very easy to do) you could enable GameCube to run natively.

They sold all the GBA Fire Emblems, the DS Fire Emblem, and 3DS with its BC had 2 DS Fire Emblem games + 3 3DS Fire Emblem games, and Switch got the first Fire Emblem localized after 3 decades.

Add in all the NES minis, SNES minis, Game & Watches, Switch Online games, remakes and remasters, and there’s actually not much they haven’t touched. There’s some gaping holes, namely GameCube, and that is frustrating for sure. There’s a lot more they could do if they wanted, but I do think they make more of their back catalog available then a lot of people give them credit for. Problem is, we want it all on Switch, and they seem to have more of a revolving door policy, a little here, a little there, a bit this gen, a bit next gen…

Perhaps Switch 2 will finally offer GameCube. And if not, I recommend just running Dolphin on the SteamDeck and checking out Fire Emblem Path of Radiance (GC), Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn (Wii), F-Zero GX (GC) Paper Mario Thousand Year Door (GC), and Super Paper Mario (Wii). The Metroid Prime games will get remastered, surely, as will Zelda Windwaker and Twilight Princess. We already got Mario Galaxy.

Yeah, that is the thing. I appreciate I can go back and buy some older generation consoles to play the titles or I can just get an emulator or something (but I’m not a huge fan of piracy, even muddled grey area piracy).

I just think if we live in a world where your Series X allows you to basically play almost every game from the original gen to present, even random crap you’ve probably never even heard of, Nintendo should at least allow us to access their first party stuff on their current device. I get that things are probably more complicated for Nintendo because they often use gimmicks for titles (dual screens, motion controls, whatever) but that is why I am saying that fine, if you can’t make everything available, first party at least. Surely with all their resources they can have a backwards compatibility team in the same way Xbox does, who make a point to get old games running the best they can on existing systems.

At best here you either seem to need to wait for rereleases charged at full price, buy an old console or subscribe to a subscription service, otherwise you’re ***** out of luck. Just feels bad. And I just feel like there is a whole avenue of untapped money for Nintendo here, too.

@Pizzamorg
Actual machine is still my reasons to get older games as the games library = 100% complete and i can pick any titles to be played on actual hardware while the BC from Series X/S are not 100% compatible with certain games (the unpopular, the games with license brands, the niche games).
You cannot even play Barbie games / Spongebob games / DDR games from OG XBOX on Series X/S, that's why i felt disappointed. But, i can play All Gamecube games on my Wii machine as long the games region are same with my Wii region machine.

Btw, i still prefer 3rd party games than 1st party games even on every Nintendo games i have.

Oh my gosh, EVEN BETTER!

The DualSense works! WITH gyro! WITH rumble! WITH wakeup!

You don’t understand. Let me explain why this is such a massive win. The DualSense is the first and only controller to include a magnetometer for gyro to prevent drift, similar to how a compass orients itself to the North Pole. The DualSense is THE controller to use for gyro, no ifs, ands or buts. While it is true many games are fine with current gyro due to only fine tuning aim, the added repeatability still helps and, comes in clutch for games imitating pointer controls, such as Pikmin 3 Deluxe, or Mario Galaxy.

This is a momentous day. Maybe this has been a thing for a while, but nobody has talked about it, and today is the day I learned of it. So today, December 20th in the Year of Our Lord 2021, I officially declare as Gyro Independence Day. We made it. We finally made it. Our journey is over. Rest, kick your feet up, and enjoy the fruits of this new era of gyro aiming. We now have magnetometer-assisted gyro on Switch, Steam and PS5. The promised land.

@JaxonH The DS4 was the first controller I connected to my Switch with the 8bitdo adapter when I got it a couple of years back, but... I dunno. Never felt right to me, for some reason. Which is weird, because it's a controller I really enjoy using on PC and PS4. Not sure why it never clicked for me when using it on Switch.

It's a useful little gadget, though. My Wii U Pro controller spent years rotting in a corner before I got it, but it has been amazing for multiplayer game sessions with my mother since I connected it to the system via that adapter.

I have an extra DS4 I haven't been using on anything. Maybe I should connect it to my Switch and try using it as a proper controller again.

@Pizzamorg It's far from almost every game from the OG Xbox and 360 lineups available on XB1/Series X|S but they still managed to get a very impressive collection available. The closest Nintendo got to something like that level of backwards compatibility was on Wii U where Wii discs worked and you had VC for a selection of NES/SNES/N64/GBA/DS/TG-16 games.

I feel in terms of the current systems, I'd rank the handling of legacy content as Series X|S > Switch > PS5. I rank Switch above PS5 for legacy content because while PS5 does play PS4 games, PS1-3 is almost completely absent (you have some games that were ported or remade for PS4 and some remakes for PS5 like Demon's Souls) meanwhile Switch has a more balanced handling of legacy content despite only a selection of Wii U games available.

If Sony manages to get PS1-3 games on PS5 in the future however, Switch drops to dead last in terms of handling legacy content.