It’s not a passing strategy, at least, it won’t be if it normalizes.. Once they go up, they don’t come back down unless they got pushback. It’s a one way ticket in that respect. As soon as it becomes normalized, it’s a wrap.
I remember buying Wipeout 2048 on Vita and it came with a paper insert saying you had to pay $10 for the “Online Pass”. Apparently a bunch of games started doing that back then. I was like what? I bought the game, now you’re charging me $10 more just to play online for a few years while the servers are up? That strategy eventually got dropped because ppl weren’t having it.
But with Xbox Live introducing paid online, it became normalized, so by the time PS implemented it, it was too late. People had already accepted it. And certainly by the time Nintendo joined it, it had been normalized for a decade.
But I’m not confident people will push back against $70 games. If ever there’s a chance to break the trend, it has to be now. If people don’t push back now, you can expect every single game to be $70 in a few years, and you can expect Switch 2 games to adopt that pricing as well. And even if Switch gamers rejected it at that time, that would just turn away companies from releasing games on Switch altogether. Higher cart costs and lower profits. Why bother. So if we’re going to reject it, it has to be now. Cut it down at the root.
It would be one thing if inflation was actually eating into their profits and this was an attempt to recoup losses, but that’s definitely not the case. Costs are not increasing due to inflation, they are increasing due to games with larger and larger budgets which garner larger and larger profits. And at the end of the day, costs increasing 30% means nothing if their profits double. And we consistently see record breaking profits. Which means there’s no justification for a price increase except greed. I would be more accepting if their profits were shrinking due to paying developers higher wages or something, but when their profits are expanding at an unprecedented rate, and it’s all going into the pockets of upper management and stockholders… it’s unwarranted.
I don't buy that 70 dollar games are going away. They should because people don't have the money for that, no matter what "BUT ACTUALLY INFLATION" dweebs will tell you, but I can't imagine a company being like "well we'll charge less for now on" unless its actually costing them enough people actually buying the games.
I mean, I'm almost sympathetic to at least Sony because y'know, its not their fault. In a sane, reasonable world, 70 dollars would make sense and they'd be correct. Yet here we are.
@kkslider5552000
Inflation is robbery of the people. It’s not a good thing. It’s an unfortunate reality, but that doesn’t make it ok.
When I hear the, “ya but inflation” argument I can’t help but facepalm. That’s like saying, “ya but you’re getting robbed buying groceries and gas, so you should be totally fine getting robbed on this too! Even though their costs aren’t actually rising due to inflation and their profits are surging, and consumer prices typically only go up due to inflation when rising costs of supplies puts a dent in their profits and they have to pass that on”.
It’s like, “this thing over here is totally not being affected by inflation, in fact profit margins are at record levels, but it’s OK for them to charge you more out of greed because other things have gone up due to inflation. We’ll just use the fact you get robbed in other areas as an excuse to justify it”.
Idk what you mean about not their fault though (unless that was sarcasm). They started this whole thing in the first place.
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@JaxonH When there's pushback, the goal isn't completely scrapped but rather approached in a different way. For example loot boxes got massive pushback which led to the creation of the battle pass which in some ways is a lot worse than loot boxes but is more accepted so the norm for multiplayer games became FTP + Battle Pass + Premium Currency store.
Another very good example is look at Don Mattrick's vision of the XB1 at the infamous May 2013 reveal which had a gigantic backlash and then years later it became that Series X|S is actually a lot closer to that initial vision than you may think.
@WoomyNNYes Yeah, physical eshop gift cards have an area which you scratch it off which reveals the code that you redeem on the eshop.
Loot boxes have been removed from a lot of games that would have otherwise had them due to the pushback, such as Jedi Fallen Order. EA has actually been releasing more games that are single player and without loot boxes. They haven’t gone away but the pushback has had a positive effect. It’s also led to investigations of gambling for minors in certain countries.
Same for Xbox. It might be closer but the fact is, neither X1 nor XS does periodic online DRM checks every 24 hours. That’s a win.
I don't even generally care what games cost new. I'm one of those aforementioned people who doesn't mind being a couple years, or even a generation, behind. There's so many games out there now, that I could play new to me games for the rest of my life and not even touch the next generation. So whats the rush to pay top dollar? I get more games for the same price waiting even a year in some cases. And more complete games typically, because I can get the 'complete' or 'definitive' editions with all the DLCs in one for a lower price. When a new game comes out, I just throw it on the wishlist for the system I want it on and forget about it until it pops up as on sale or reduced (Usually Steam, cause well, Steam sales are usually just so good).
When the PS4 came out, that was when I got a PS3. Someone locally wanted to unload theirs to fund a PS4. So, I bought their PS3 with about 15 games for $120. Most of them really good games too, the Uncharted series, Tomb Raider, etc.. Then, between people locally unloading PS3 games and stores discounting them to make room for PS4 games, I built myself a nice PS3 library for a fraction of what it would have cost new.
Now is when I'm starting to keep an eye out for people unloading PS4s, so I can snag one for a decent price with games.
There are a few franchises where I want to play the new installment right away, but even then I can typically wait a month or two. I held off Metroid Dread for a couple months and got a second hand copy at EB games last week for $25 less than the new ones on the same shelf.
I'm more interested in making my money buy more games than just having the fewer of the newest ones on release.
Because if prices start $10 higher, then their sale prices will also be $10 higher (as we've seen with Ratchet and Clank and Demons Souls). Instead of dropping $20 to $39.99, they drop to $49.99, and the floor the game reaches might also be $10 higher as a result. It trickles down. One way or another, that increase carries forward.
I suppose one could counter this buy waiting even longer. But if you typically wait for prices to reach the floor, and the floor is $10 higher, there's no escaping it.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
@JaxonH Of course it's important to pushback against anti-consumer stuff, I was only saying that it's important to be wary of next moves after successful pushbacks. People just accepted battle passes because they considered it to be "better" than loot boxes which then led to abominations like Halo Infinite's progression system. People don't bother trying to win in objective game modes because they're too busy with "Kill enemy spartans with [insert weapon or vehicle]" challenges to progress in the battle pass.
It's a strategy of fatiguing the enemy. Just bombard them with new monetization over and and over. We take a win here and there, but then ppl are too tired to keep it up. That's certainly by design.
"Oh OK, you don't want the system based DRM online checks, no problem"... "OK guys, let's make our games mandate online moving forward, they won't push back if it's just one single game at a time, a few might gripe but not enough will skip it". Then one game becomes two games, becomes four games, etc.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Yah, it is always annoying when the whales come out of the woodwork and start defending anti-consumerism because they’re slaves to specific brands. It normalises it in the eyes of the companies and they’ll just keep pushing from there until they eventually upset enough people. Then they’ll do a very slight backpedal and take the praise and pretend they’re all about the consumer, despite just back-pedalling into only slightly less anti-consumer practices.
Welp just got my collector’s edition of Danganronpa (Amazon is so slow now)! Will wait until next year since I am playing GAA Chronicles right now.
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Sometimes the upcoming Switch games i posted here from playasia were not really shovelware games like i have ever posted Youtubers Life 2 , Alba: a Wildlife Adventure , Grow: Song of the Evertree , Farm Together , etc.
I like to give some information about upcoming games that didn't mentioned from Direct, maybe there are some peoples have interest with kind of games like that (hidden gems).
Honestly starting to really enjoy Luigi’s Mansion, I must still be within the tutorial portion because I am just trying to explore and enjoy myself the scientist keeps telling me off. And it is very annoying how aggressively he tries to hold your hand, but I guess these games are predominantly made for children.
It took me a while to get used to the sticks, but I am basically there with their function now. It helped when I realised all the face buttons have shoulder button equivalents the game doesn’t tell you about, unless you specifically check the controls in the options menu. The game feels a lot less awkward to control if you stop using the face buttons entirely.
However, otherwise, I am having a lot of fun so far. It looks gorgeous, especially for a Switch game, and thanks mostly to the physics engine both puzzle solving, exploring and combat are really elevated beyond their simple trappings. It is just so much fun poking around and seeing the way in which you can interact with various objects to make things happen. Plus it probably should get old, but smashing a ghost into a bunch of his ghost mates to take them all down always feels so good.
@Pizzamorg that one almost looks like a CG movie at times, and it’s a clever and funny game too. Yeah the controls get much better once you start using the shoulder buttons.
It does have its annoying parts (like the boiler room and a few boss battles), but the good parts outweigh them in the end I think.
I absolutely recommend trying out the local coop mode, it’s pretty fun.
@Pizzamorg
As with most Nintendo games, they're not exclusively targeting children, they're designing for everyone. Not to say some Nintendo games don't skew toward a younger demographic (Kirby, Animal Crossing, but even these games appeal to women and more casual gamers as much as anyone else), because I do think they try to offer a wide variety of products for everyone. But what's helped Nintendo stay successful and relevant, I believe, is their ability to make games that aren't just for one type of gamer or age group.
Luigi's Mansion 3 is fantastic. It's been a while since I played but I think you can use gyro to tilt the flashlight up or down if you want. Might have to be turned on in settings though.
@Eel
I played Scarescraper in Luigi's Mansion 2 on 3DS with my brother and had so much fun. They really went all out for LM3. Way more fleshed out and even had DLC content for MP too, iirc. Haven't tried out the MP myself, though.
Really should put that game on my to-do list to get back to.
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He was pierced for our transgressions
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