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Ryu_Niiyama

@Ralizah Smash is kinda the fighting game (It's a party brawler but I digress) for the masses though, and what I mean by that is it is about dream mix ups rather than about the actual mechanics. That being said we do get in excited in the FGC about new fighters in our home games but since its not something that is a wishlist roster you don't generate the same excitement...except for returning characters (soul calibur VI reveals have been fun for that reason and since they have guest characters there is a little of the dream mixup aspect). Honestly we get more excited for new entries depending on the series you stan for...I'm a VF player so I feel like drew barrymore's character in never been kissed when she goes to the prom with the way SEGA treats VF. So yeah depending on the franchise you like in the FGC you can be excited, interested to see gameplay mechanics...or reacting like you are in an abusive relationship (not to make light of that). The only other series that really captured that was the VS series and that was with the earlier entries really. (Somebody please pay capcom and snk to make a new game please?!)

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Magician

Ryu_Niiyama wrote:

@Ralizah Smash is kinda the fighting game (It's a party brawler but I digress) for the masses though, and what I mean by that is it is about dream mix ups rather than about the actual mechanics.

@Ryu_Niiyama

I can't agree with that. Not when Smash is a game selected for EVO year in and year out. That would be like calling Tekken or Street Fighter a series for casual fighting fans. We don't see other platform-fighters like Playstation All-Stars or Brawlhalla at EVO, do we?

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JaxonH

I’d say Nintendo can’t control what a certain, small segment of the fandom does. Smash was never originally designed as a tournament fighter. People just chose to play it as such in spite of that fact. Smash, at its core, is like the Mario kart of fighting games. Of course, it’s about fun mechanics, and that is top priority- fun. It doesn’t have to be super balanced (although they do their best to make it so), it doesn’t have to conform to any preconceived notion of what a fighter is “supposed to be”. It’s a celebratory party game. That doesn’t mean everyone has to play it that way, but at 20 million sold and counting, that’s how most play it.

Anyways, Steve is a worthy addition. I don’t play Minecraft. Never really been interested in Minecraft, and still, even now, have no intentions of playing Minecraft. But it’s the best selling video game in the world at over 200 million sold. That’s... absolutely nuts. Think about Smash Ultimate selling 20 million. That’s almost unheard of... Yet Minecraft has sold 10x that amount. It’s insane. How can you not represent that franchise? If ever there was a worthy pick, Steve would definitely be it. Just out of sheer respect for the impact Minecraft has had on the gaming landscape.

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Ralizah

@Ryu_Niiyama @JaxonH Eh. Nintendo has absolutely added competitive features to cater to that playstyle over time, and even hosted tournaments. Moreover, there is a huge amount of depth to the mechanics in Smash. The appeal of Smash is that it's a lot of fun no matter which playstyle you opt for, and, unlike proper fighting games, it's pretty darn simple to learn the basic controls.

Although, yeah, it's clearly not a fighting game in the same sense as Street Fighter, BlazBlue, DoA, etc.

Anyway, I do get the excitement when some character somebody is really hoping gets added finally makes the cut. Like... I don't care about Banjo-Kazooie, but I understand why a segment of the Nintendo fanbase was excited about that. But the pretty much perpetual pre-announcement hype for new characters any time an upcoming DLC fighter is announced kind of baffles me. Especially considering how routine it has become for new Smash fighters to be announced these days. It kinda just feels like I'm playing a Smash variant of Mugen at this point.

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JaxonH

@Ralizah
Accommodation doesn’t mean that’s the main intent and primary targeted audience though. There’s nothing wrong with accommodating the more competitive types, especially if it doesn’t really have any negative consequences. They’re not mutually exclusive. But the game is definitely targeting the casual gamer who just wants to have fun, similar to Mario Kart. Predominantly speaking, of course.

The announcements have certainly lost some luster given the sheer quantity. But they’re still kinda cool. I hope they do a fighter pass 3 and just keep on going all generation long. They’ll never top this game. Ever. Unless they port it and add new characters on top of the base game. Just keep it going. Let’s see if we can top 100 characters by the time this generation is over!

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TheFrenchiestFry

@Ralizah Ultimate is basically MUGEN for 60 dollars. I personally love it. I just think the important thing here is to soak in the fact that these many characters are together in a single game and actually don't look weird or out of place, because this is probably never happening again in any other fighting game, let alone Smash.

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Grumblevolcano

I'm pretty sure the angle Nintendo took was "Minecraft is the best selling game of all time so putting Steve in Smash will bring Minecraft players that aren't playing on the Switch over to Switch". On another note it's pretty obvious that the trailer we saw yesterday would've been the E3 character reveal had the pandemic not been around.

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TheFrenchiestFry

@Grumblevolcano Minecraft being as big as it is was definitely a factor for sure, but considering some of the other roster choices like Joker, Richter and Cloud, I don't think the idea behind it was to squarely get the Minecraft community into the Switch version, because Minecraft itself is a pretty platform agnostic game and Microsoft doesn't really seem to care where you play it.

I think the general idea was just to have a character in the roster who has major mass market appeal, because that hasn't really been done with the DLC fighters before. Each fighter appeals to specific groups of people, but Minecraft is probably the largest third party IP they could've represented in Smash and would sell on name recongition and iconography alone regardless of platform, just like seeing something like Smash x Persona 5, or Smash x Final Fantasy VII during a trailer, but on a way larger scale because Minecraft is just that much of a phenomenon that everyone and their dog plays

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porto

Okay.
Picture this.

The next smash reveal starts with fire emblem characters duking it out. And then out of no where an apple hits one of them. The characters turn around to find Crash Bandicoot and Aku-Aku standing there looking all menacing. Could you imagine the hype?

A man can dream

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porto

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TheFrenchiestFry

@Giancarlothomaz MUGEN is a fanmade crossover fighting game that features an absurd amount of characters from multiple major franchises spanning all types of media, and not just video games. Its gained notoriety for seemingly having a never ending roster of fighters.

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JaxonH

Just got Joker and Hero amiibo.

It's pretty cool having these characters as amiibo to display

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Rexenoboy

I still haven't bought a single Amiibo.
If Rex got one, I'd buy dozens of them in a heartbeat though. 😅

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TheFrenchiestFry

The Steve Challenger Pack is literally everything I wanted from him in Smash

I couldnt put into words for the longest time how I would do Steve in Smash but Sakurai hit all the nails in the head

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