Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@bluemage1989 I totally get it, I did used to love having my 360 games all lined up on a shelf! It actually makes me a little sad now that when I go into a games shop I don’t want to buy anything because i’m so invested in digital. I still like looking in the shops but it’s a pretty empty experience when you know you won’t buy anything?

That said, I find that the first thing I do almost every day on my switch is check the eshop - despite knowing it only tends to update on Tuesdays/Fridays!

Think the nail in the coffing for me was the whole ‘having to install from disc’ stuff and the noise that the drive on my original xbox one made!

@Anti-Matter with all that stress from ‘worrying’ if there’ll be a physical edition, isn’t it just easier to go digi? Realise the cards can be pricey if you want a fair chunk of space but worth missing out on a game or two for the QoL improvement?

I’m asking, not telling btw - I 100% realise that digital is not for everyone

And yeah @rallydefault - the convenience alone is the absolute showstopper of a reason as to why I could never go back. I’ve become so lazy with my gaming even that often I’ll play switch just because I can’t be bothered to wait for the xbox to startup, sign-in, load game etc. We’re talking minutes, but feels like a lifetime compared to the ‘10-second-max time to game’ of Switch. If I had to add in time to change discs etc I think I’d end up watching netflix etc instead for the majority of the time!

This is pure nonsense. No one here can confirm you had those problems or not. It is easy to bolster things on internet as you well know. People exaggerate all the time and/or use stronger words than what has really happened. But the real question is, why do you even feel you need to defend yourself in this way? Why not just let it slide by turning the other cheek?

And my last two comps have been really easy to use, they have installed drivers automatically, it sets the recommended settings in games with the option to change things afterwards. Have I had more trouble with them compared to the switch? Yes I have. But I also use them 10x as much.

I have never had a mouse or keyboard break in the first year, nor any other component. My switch have a hairline crack and a faulty joycon already. Heck, I compared the install between a comp and the Wii u and the PC was by far the easiest to setup. I really don't understand the argument that consoles are simpler. As long as you chose a Intel/Nvidia combo from a respectable brand you are fine.

But most arguments I see online nowadays sounds like how it was during the dark days, I don't think that is representative of how it is today.

@Therad I think for a lot of folk, they spend their day in front of PC's at work. The last thing they want to do is be stuck in front of it at home too lol.

@BrainOfGrimlock
I don't want easier way to play games by just download the Apps WITHOUT the existence of Game cartridge.
As collector, i want my games are in Physical release.
I would rather defy all the convenience.
Convenience is comforting, just makes me lazier.
Simple, when i buy something, i want my games are Exist in presence. I don't count my digital games as my collection since they don't exist.

@Therad
There is nothing wrong with me defending my own integrity. Making a valid argument for the fact I am not lying is not "nonsense". People here have known me for long enough to make a judgment call as to what systems I like and play on. And the only motive I would have to lie were the ones listed above.

So again I say, raise your hand if you think I'm a Sony fan boy who is threatened by someone saying PC is better. You make your own judgment call on that. Because I have no horse in this race. I have no reason to exaggerate PC being easier than it is or worse than it is.

But I can point you in the direction of people who do have a horse in the race- take a look in the mirror.

Why do you feel the need to attack someone saying they have issues. I find it extremely ridiculous that people would sit here and try to make it out like PCs have no issues the console's don't have. It takes a diehard PC fanboy of the highest order to even propose such an utterly ridiculous notion.

I was simply listing some of the problems I have had that turned me away from the platform. The more defensive people get about it and the more they attack anyone who voices any sort of issue they have had, the more I'm going to dig my heels in and say you're a fanboy, PCs have all sorts of issues that I don't deal with on consoles. And attacking people for saying such a thing only makes you look more extreme.

If you like PCs more I say good for you. If you don't have the issues that so many other people have with PCs that they don't have a consoles, then I say good for you. Nobody is trying to convince you that your platform of choice is inferior. Because it's not. There are pros and cons, and which is best will completely depend on who you ask, and I'm quite sure that the amount of problems you have completely depends on the set up you have, and whether or not you're trying to use it as a console replacement with the TV.

But don't attack people who are simply sharing the issues they have experienced just because it goes against your own narrative of PC being so much better. That is what's ridiculous.

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It completely depends on your setup. I think that much is clear by the fact I have way less issues on my GPD Win 2 than my PC posing as a console. The 720p screen seems compatible with just about everything (Wolfestein display error during cutscenes aside). The issues for Assassins Creed 2 and DA Origins not having full controller support is also still an issue. But aside from that, pretty much every other problem I've had was on the "console PC". So I can believe that some people out there with a good desktop setup at 1080p or 1440p would have no more issues than I have on the Win 2. And the Win 2 has been mostly a problem free experience, unlike my PC posing as a console connected to a 4K TV.

Backwards compatibility I think is pretty much guaranteed and that's a good thing, don't think Microsoft would've focused so much on the backwards compatibility workaround on XB1 if it wasn't going to happen on next gen. Forwards compatibility on the other hand I don't see happening. As nice as it would be to be able to buy a XB1X and know it would be fully supported for 3-4 more years it would limit potential on the other side maybe such that more games are PS5 exclusive because it doesn't require having to support the weak at the time XB1X.

To bring it back on topic, I totally expect Switch 3rd party support to either plummet or mostly be "cloud versions" when Scarlett and PS5 come out.

I can see that, even though I don't.

@JaxonH it is nonsense in the sense that no one can prove or disprove your claims. It is a one hundred percent non issue for anyone but you. Not even a wall of text will change that.

Christ looks like I missed some fireworks.

Big, explosive, ranty fireworks.

I should play more of those service games like Splatoon and Fortnite but I just cant be bothered

@Therad
If it can't be proven, then how dare someone accuse me of lying?

And you're factually wrong if you think I am the only one who has ever had these issues with PC. Unless you're talking about just in this chat with only three or four other people who game on PC. And you're arguing that if three other random people didn't have my exact issue, it must not have ever happened?

Surely that's not what you're arguing. Which if it is, you're still factually wrong. You haven't polled the tens of millions of PC gamers and asked them what issues they've had or haven't had. So don't dare to proclaim that 100% of others have never had any of these issues. What an extremely ignorant statement.

How do you think I solved the issues??? By implementing fixes others found because they had the same issue. They're plastered all over the Internet. Anyone with a search engine can see others have had these issues.

I recommend you Google each issue I listed and take a look at the results. I'll get ya started on the first one.

gaming pc dll file missing

gaming pc black screen

gaming pc Wolfenstein display error

gaming pc final Fantasy full screen won't display

gaming pc Dragon Age STEAM install location

Do I need to give you a search suggestion for games with partial controller support too? Or are you going to argue against that existing also? This is proof enough you're willing to lie to advance your pro-PC narrative. You said 100% nobody ever has had these issues but me, and that's clearly false as the sky is blue. Which is proof enough you will say anything. And you can't trust a person who will say anything..

you got a point, I come home with images of fractal equations and quantum theories by two dozen college students availing themselves to the open position of the next Stephen Hawking burned into the back of my eyes, yah, i just want to plop on my recliner, turn on Voyager and play LoZ: ALBW, had not considered that.

good call

@BrainOfGrimlock I have a nice collection from across Nintendo's history of games consoles and other collectibles on top of a lot of Xbox/360/One stuff, Mega Drive and various other small side collections of 90s systems and being able to keep adding to that does feel nice. Hopefully once I've finished the new house I'll have a nice little space to enjoy it all.

Digital has so many benefits but it just feels soulless to me. However, digital is the future (and a lot better than a streaming future) so I will no doubt have to change my ways at some point.

"Next Wolfenstein" is coming to Switch. Confirmed by Pete Hines.

Could mean Wolfenstein Youngblood or Wolfenstein 3, not sure. I think it means Youngblood, since that is technically the next Wolfenstein. And it would be extremely odd for them to confirm the next one is coming, but not bring that one.

So ya. Wolfenstein Youngblood is coming, along with DOOM Eternal.

Question is, will the Wolfenstein 2 Freedom Chronicles expansion come to Switch? I thought it was coming but I haven't heard anything since the game launched.

@JaxonH
Wolfenstein II could also be unrelated to a direct Sequel and a game of its own.

pepople want a lot of ports to the Switch, this is true, but the companies know they can't live off of ports alone, people want originals too

@JaxonH There was also that retail rumour around E3 too (Gamestop I think it was) but of course officially announcing it around then would've harmed 2's sales.

@skywake sata hardware was always nice. Getting windows installed on one, at the time required floppies with controller drivers on them. Floppy drives were becoming rare already. Abd half the time it still didnt work right and install wiuld fail until you got the driver order juuust right.even linux involved custom kernels with weird modules included. It was a nightmare.

@subpopz were talking endless software abd hardware issues over 6 pcs or so. The last one i nearly never used and it ate 3 gpus 1 hdd and a psu. The psu may in reality be what took out the other parts over 3 years, but there was no way to know it. No, too much to go wrong with too expensive parts. Ive built work boxes since without trouble. Its the gaming stuff....

@therad totally ageed.

@grumblevolcano if 1x support holds back scarlett, then expect current mid range pcs to not be supported. Same difference. I dont see that happening. Games are mature now. No great leaps. Better ai, more stuff on screen, etc, but that can, and will, all scale down. The oeople expecting a gaming revolution with new consoles are like the people that expected rdr2 to revolutionize modern gaming. Its All iterative from here. Its matured as a medium and industry. There's just no reason hardware isnt viable for a long while with performance upgrades often like pc, and that, most importantly REALLY helps publishers who really run the industry. And, long term help Nintendo too.

@Grumblevolcano
Unfortunately, it probably would have.

I hear people saying they skipped DQ Builders simply because a sequel is coming several years down the line. Like, why not enjoy the game that just released, and then in 2 years, enjoy the sequel? Why not enjoy Wolfenstein 2 now, then in 1-2 years time, enjoy the completely separate co-op focused Youngblood? It's because people are drawn to the "new". They equate "newer" with "better" (also why people seem to be prejudiced against ports, even when they haven't played the games in question). And sometimes newer games are a little better, since they build off the previous game and improve. But they're not better just because they're newer.

@JaxonH
I probable would have got it myself, but I can't stand Minecraft and visually it's just too much, my daughter would probably love it, but unless the next one is better smoothed out and less blocky, I'm not touching it.

I know it a lot more than just Minecraft with the DQ name slapped on it, but I am a peculiar person when it comes to some games, and I am sure i just could not get into the current one

@ReaderRagfish
The sequel does look considerably better, no denying that. And if it was releasing six months later, I'd probably say just wait for the sequel also.

But when a game is several years away... I see no reason to hold off. Kinda same thing with consoles. If the new revision of a console is releasing within the next 12 months, probably best to hold off. But if it's 2 years away, or even longer... I can't say holding off is the best course of action. Better to just buy it and enjoy it for a couple years, then a few years later, if you want, sell it and upgrade.