Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

Alright, let me put a spin on the discussion in a different direction. How much does timing of game release matter in this case? For example, the lastest DQ has been out in Japan on 3DS/PS4, how much people will double-dip for the Switch? Can they release games later without problems? I know there are people really miffed at delays/late releases, so I wonder how this will impact the Switch. Will portability kind of exclude it from all that?

Late releases will sell substantially less on Switch, no question. However, the developers will maximize revenue by doing so.

If DQXI released on Switch at same time, half the people who bought if for PS4/3DS would have gotten the Switch version. So let's say they all end up selling a million copies. All 3 versions do. So Switch version does well, but only because it's eating into the sales of other versions.

By releasing late, they still sell 3 million copies, but they do so on just 2 platforms. By coming in later with Switch, maybe they only sell half a million. BUT, it's all additional sales from people who already bought the game. So they ultimately make more money this way.

@JaxonH Interesting, but it reflects badly on the console that gets the last straw, since it sells less, right?

@JaxonH You're taking it too literal.
Of course one person can turn a million heads (that's something that is happening every day) so I wouldn't count it out either, but I'm just saying it is possible that it's your little voice amongst all the other little voices that can make the balance tip over to the other side. In reality the majority of all voices and voters, everything your statistics have to offer, always stay silent and invisible.

@UmniKnight
It sells less because people are double dipping, not because it's "lesser than"

I don't know how it "reflects" anything. Some games come later, on all consoles- especially new ones. Just how it goes.

Breath of the Wild for me! ..although, I must confess to not having played Odyssey (waiting 'til next year) so I perhaps don't have the most well-rounded opinion out there!

Splatoon 2 is the game that I've played the most - with honourable mentions also for Overcooked* (best local multiplayer) and Stardew Valley* (best indie) - but Zelda was just breathtaking and far beyond my wildest expectations!

_{*not strictly 2017 games...but new for me this year, so I'm counting them!}

BotW is easily my favorite release of the year. Splatoon 2 is fun, but I've pretty much stopped playing it entirely except for when the occasional Splatfest rolls around. In fairness, this was also how it went with the original for me. I'm just not an online multiplayer sort of person.

SMO is fantastic fun, and a solid competitor for second favorite game of the year (alongside Persona 5), but it never really awed me.

@JaxonH Well, if a publisher looks at sales, and sees that the Switch version sold less, that isn't exactly a big thumbs up for the console, is it?

@UmniKnight
Uh, publishers are smart enough to know how to judge revenue. They have experts to do nothing but calculate ways to maximize revenue

It's isn't always about "selling the most on one console" it's about selling the most on ALL CONSOLES combined.

And you can believe they'd much rather sell less on Switch if it's all extra sales above and beyond other versions. You can sell 5 million on Switch but if it comes at the cost of 5 million less sales elsewhere, then those sales don't really mean squat, do they

@JaxonH EA isnt.

Thinking about buying another Switch to play Mario Odyssey. I sold my 2 Switches over the Summer for a profit. I do have a few questions about the Switch since it's been a few months since I had one.

Nintendo said something about a subscription service in October. Did that ever happen? Has the online features changed at all since July? Can you send friends messages?

@BLP_Software
Actually... they are.

Let's not pretend FIFA 18 on Switch wasn't a total failure, cause it was. And it was a solid game, by far the best portable entry to date (miles beyond anything on Vita or 3DS, even beyond PS3/360)

Their games simply don't sell well enough on Nintendo. Whatever revenue they could potentially make on Switch, they could make 10, 20, 100x that by devoting their resources elsewhere for another console.

They're not the same EA as they were even 5 years ago. They're a money generating machine, and their games reflect that. Switch gamers aren't the market for the games they make. Even popular franchises like Star Wars... are now online multiplayer shooters.

I've accepted it. Just the way it is. They could outsource 7th gen game ports to Switch but, the income would be negligible stacked against the bank they make on other consoles.

@JaxonH I wasnt talking about FIFA 18...

You must have lost a load of weight this weekend with the amount of crap that's come out of your mouth. You really have wrote so much nonsense. Ask EA if they're happy with FIFA 18 sales on Switch.

@Lethal
Nope, nope and nope. Online is fine, but you won't have voice chat or messaging. Switch is fantastic but it's not an online social console. Stick with other systems for that (not saying they won't add messaging with their online service because they very well might but I certainly wouldn't allow such a thing to affect my decision to buy- just count on it never happening and if it does then cool). Online service starts next year for $19.99/yr. But online works fine, and it's free until then. Splatoon 2 has an app which is pretty rad, and allows voice chat, but I just use the app for other things. Don't need it to play online.

I recommend Mario Odyssey, Zelda Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Splatoon 2, Ultra Street Fighter II (grab it in a sale or something), Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle and Fire Emblem Warriors. Maybe you'd like Pokken Tournament but wasn't really my thing.

And Xenoblade Chronicles 2 which drops Dec. 1st. And whatever 3rd party games you want portably. Will want a tempered glass screen protector (amfilm is best brand for $8, Google hinge method and shower method to apply perfectly, glass is easy though). Also a micro SD if you are a digital gamer or want alot of 3rd party AAA games cause some have downloads and you'll want some space.

Right on. I still have an AmFilm protector left from my other Switch. I also have my 64gb sd card that I had before as well. Sadly I had Zelda, Mario Kart, and Street Fighter purchased digitally and I am pretty sure I can not download them again. I do not understand why I can not download digitally purchased games whenever I want like you can on the other consoles.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Given that they sold through their initial shipment, (I had to wait for the second shipment to find a copy), I'd wager that they are upset it sold as well as it did.

@Lethal you can't redownload games? Wtf kind of sh** is that?

@Inertiacreep You cant download games you bought physically.

And something tells me you also cant do that on other systems.

@DarthNocturnal Thats how it works on PS as well. Lock the account and its purchases to a system so that one person cant download a game and then share their account with the world. Have to unlink the account first just like on Switch