Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@UmniKnight
Don't see anything funny about it. That's exactly what it is. You're getting full console games both on the TV as a home console, and on the go as a handheld/portable home console.

That's the beauty of the system. People can finally play full console games anywhere.

@JaxonH I've never had a Vita, but isn't that what that device was going for? And what I mean, is how it's funny that the site I've copy pasted felt the need to emphasize handheld. Does that require emphasis? You tell me.

@JaxonH If you're looking for a holiday game, there's Retro's project.

1996 - Green/Red, followed by Blue later that year
1997 - –
1998 - Yellow
1999 - Gold/Silver
2000 - Crystal
2001 - –
2002 - Ruby/Sapphire
2003 - –
2004 - FireRed/LeafGreen, followed by Emerald later that year
2005 - –
2006 - Diamond/Pearl
2007 - –
2008 - Platinum
2009 - HeartGold/SoulSilver
2010 - Black/White
2011 - –
2012 - Black 2/White 2
2013 - X/Y
2014 - Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire
2015 - –
2016 - Sun/Moon
2017 - Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon
2018 - ???

New generation happens once every three/four years (bolded), and every generation has always had at least one year without a release. Two years is, again, awfully short for a generation. On top of that, next year's championships will be SM, with 2019 likely being USUM (since every entry has had at least represented the championships one year). That means 2020's championships will probably be the first to be centered around the new games, that also lines up with a 2019 release. Unless USUM is forgotten sooner than it seems.

@Tsurii
I classify US/UM in the remake/revision/ultimate version category. I certainly don't categorize them as new games. We don't know when they started development. All we know is what they tell us. And if they tell us another year then until proven otherwise I'm going to expect exactly that.

@Octane
You've got a fair point. And probably the best argument I've seen yet against a 2018 release. Nonetheless, taking what they said at face value, that could change with the next release. After all, there's a lot of things happening that have never happened before... such as Pokémon coming to a home console.

@UmniKnight
I think it does. It's the handheld portion of the console that makes it so special. That's why everybody loves it so much. It would be a fine system on its own as a home console because the games are great but, it's the duality that makes Switch what it is.

But people should stop trying to box it in with labels all the time, saying "it's just a home console" or "it's just a handheld" or "it's just a gaming tablet". No... it's all the above. And that's why it's so amazing

@JaxonH I've learned that PR talk is often just PR talk. When a company announces a game that's coming Q1 of the next year, they call it ''early [insert year]''. When it's a holiday title, they rarely say ''late [insert year]'', it's always just the year. Same applies to Pokemon, assuming it is a 2019 title, they're not going to say that, because it seems so far away. They will always leave you with the possibility that it's coming sooner, even though they already know that won't happen. That's why I don't read too much into what GameFreak said.

Generation 6 was pretty short too, with no ''third'' version. But they reused a lot of assets for Sun and Moon as a result. I find it unlikely that they can develop an HD Pokémon game in such a short amount of time. If two years is all they put into generation 8, I expect a lot of reused assets again.

''such as Pokémon coming to a home console.''

Well... let's not pretend it was their own idea to develop for a home console. The Switch is the next handheld, so they have little choice, and it just so happens to double as a home console. That was bound to happen!

@Octane Careful. Have you seen the film 'A Beautiful Mind'? You'll go nuts looking for patterns like that! Nothing stopping Pokémon releasing next year on Switch. If it doesn't happen it's because it's not ready ...not because the bloomin years didn't align lol.

@GrailUK Like BLP said, everything's possible within reason. A big HD Pokémon within two years after previous generation just doesn't sound reasonable to me. That's all I'm saying. There were three years between XY and SM, and those games reused a lot of assets. If there's only two years between SM and the next gen, I expect a similar situation. I just find it very unlikely.

And the new about patterns is, sometimes they exist, sometimes they don't. A new generation every three/four years is a pattern. Because it doesn't make any sense to drag out a generation for ten years, nor does it make any sense to release multiple generation within the same year, so it makes sense it happens every three/four years. Not because it's law, but because it's logical. Things happen within a frame of logic, and there's nothing wrong with using that for speculation.

And again, I don't think it's impossible, I just find it very unlikely that the new Pokémon game is ready by next year.

@Octane
Well... nothing wrong with a bit of skepticism but regardless of whether it was their idea to bring it to Switch, same could be said for its release date. Maybe it wasn't their idea to release a new one so soon but maybe Nintendo insisted... it can go both ways. Maybe they beefed up their development team to ensure it releases on time- people are assuming they're working with the exact same manpower as games in the past. And assuming games took longer than two years in the past. Maybe games only took one year and they were just cashing in on easy remakes in between? We just don't know.

What we do know, is that they indicated a year, and next holiday is a year and a half. So it's simply boils down to whether you believe them or not.

Diamond and Pearl remakes for 3DS holiday 2018 seems most logical.

So much Poke-talky. Dont really like them, but ill prolly give the Switch game a chance.

@Octane I'm rubbish at speculating lol! Erm...I'm not expecting a Breath of the Wild opus and Mr Iwata mentioned it's easier to work with 3DS and Switch at the same time, so I think the Switch Pokémon will have a lot in common with the 3DS games much like Fire Emblem Warriors and release next year. (So, basically the exact opposite of what I said will happen!)

@JaxonH But as we all well know, things can very easily change in development. Delays, more time required for what have you, are common place these days, are they not? I wouldn't put a finger on anything any time soon.

@JaxonH some Pokemon games have been released early in the year. Mostly EU releases in the DS era.

Plus @Octane if we go by the Western release dates, Generation 5 was only 2 years, 2011-2013

Did anybody think Mario Odyssey would happen this year? I still say just because they announce a game with no footage doesn't mean it hasn't been in development for some time. Didn't anyone see Splatoon 2 coming?? Well I did and I called it over a year ago. I did say launch but I was close.

Pokemon will come out next year. I'm not expecting ground breaking graphics as none of the games are graphic heavy. What I expect is a all new entry but with slightly better graphics then the 3ds. I'm still holding out hope that Prime 4 will still happen next year even though more realistically I expect it in 2019. Did anyone expect the 1st party games we got this year. Off the hook 1st party support.

Nintendo needs to keep pouring it on and not take a step back next yet.

@UmniKnight
I've already addressed that. I said delays can happen, said nothing is set in stone. But that doesn't mean we should completely ignore the timeline they gave us just because we get the willy nilly feelies that it won't come out within the timeline they suggest.

@Spoony_Tech I think the most surprising thing on the first party Switch front this year was Xenoblade 2 not being delayed to 2018.

@BLP_Software Western release dates are irrelevant in this case. The games are not developed over here. The games used to take a lot of time to get localised and now they're doing worldwide releases, they had to catch up somewhere in-between. And to be fair, BW released early 2011 in Europe and North America, so early 2019 would be a more appropriate comparison. Regardless, the games are developed in Japan, so it only makes sense to look at their release schedule.

@Octane Pokémon is only as of USUM doing worldwide releases.

Sure, XY was same day, but then for ORAS and SM, the UK got it a week late for....reasons?

@BLP_Software A week later is still close. At least it's not a year or months later.