@JaxonH Thing is, I won't buy games that I don't like just to show support. I will buy games that I do like, because I'm sure I'll enjoy them, and if they support, then all the better. But you can't expect people to buy into the water-testing, just so they can have a little plastic box with a game they'll never use, and a chance at more support (not even guarantee)
For example, I'll buy Xenoverse 2, because I want that game, and even then I'm going out of my way, since I could've bought it for 25 on the Steam summer sale, but I'm buying it 60 on Switch to show support, and be able to play with friends online. And that, considering I have a tight budget, only able to get 1, at most 2 games a month.
@JaxonH "Well that's because Nintendo gamers don't show the same kind of support as other gamers."
Not buying the test-water games could easily have the one selling them think this. Hence implying we should buy these games no matter what, if only to have this support-base created.
Whatever Nintendo does it will always be best if possible to own at least 1 non-Nintendo console. Anyway if Nintendo decided to instead of Switch create a PS4/XB1 clone, it would've had the same situation as the Wii U because about a year after launch (8 months this time) it would've been severely underpowered compared to the competition (XB1X).
@UmniKnight
No, people should buy the game if they want it, and not buy it if they don't want it. And if not enough people buy it then there's just not enough demand on the system and they shouldn't bring any further games. Can't very well complain about not getting games when there's not enough people interested to support said games. And if not enough people buy those test games, I guarantee you the one selling them will think that. As will I.
@Grumblevolcano
Even if it wasn't still underpowered, power was never the deciding factor. It would've had the same situation as Wii U simply because no third parties would be supporting it (it doesn't matter what Nintendo released, there is no scenario in which third parties were going to be on board day one). And because it would offer absolutely nothing different than the other consuls but a whole heck of a lot less... only Nintendo fans would've purchased it. As a result third parties would've continued avoiding the console, and the cycle would've repeated. But by creating something different, Nintendo managed to get people interested despite not having the third party games. Which got more people than just the fans buying one, Which is now leading to increased third-party support which will in turn lead to more people buying it, and the cycle is broken.
Switch was the only legitimate play they had left.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
@JaxonH But to hinge your entire IP library on just 1 particular type of game? That's madness. Not to mention highly unfair. I mean, I couldn't give less of a rat's behind about Fifa, but Bioware (was under EA if I remember) has games I'd try, like Dragon Age.
@UmniKnight
If that one particular game is the best selling game they have, then if even that game can't sell then none of the other games stand a chance.
That said, nobody completely hinges their decision on one game. They might tell you that's what they're doing because you'll believe them. But it doesn't matter if it's their game or someone else's- they are looking at all software sales on the platform, their own included. If 9/10 3rd party games are selling well, but one game does not, they'll likely investigate as to why it didn't meet expectations when every other game has. But if their game doesn't sell well and half the other games on the system aren't selling well, that's all they need to pack their bags for a year or two and revisit down the line when the install base is larger.
@JaxonH So then, what's your take on how third-parties are currently doing on the Switch? Personally, I have Disgaea 5 and Fate/Extella next to me, adding One Piece, Xenoverse 2 and Rabbids to that soon, with more to come as announced.
I've also supported third-party back on Wii-U, Wii etc, but beyond the first wave of games that interested me, Wii-U never saw any further waves....
@UmniKnight
Eh, seems to me they're doing reasonably well- certainly far better than on Wii U. Especially for having such a small install base. What I'm worried about is JRPG's. Seems no one cared about I Am Setsuna- and I get that it had already been out on PS4 but, there was just so little interest it scares me. Now Lost Sphear is in the works, and the game honest to goodness looks immaculate. But it's like people just aren't interested- I don't hear anybody talking about it.
Aside from that, I'm optimistic. I think people have a much better reason to buy games that they might have already played before. For example, a lot of people have already played Skyrim and Rocket League. But I'm willing to bet a large number of people buy those games specifically because it is the first ever chance for them to play those games anywhere, and do so without needing some watered down handheld version. I'll be there day one for most 3rd party games. Disgaea 5, Fate Extella, I Am Setsuna, Bomberman, Ultra Street Fighter II, Puyo Puyo, Cave Story, Binding of Issac... got em all. One Piece, DB Xenoverse 2, Mario Kingdom Battle, FE Warriors, Rayman Legends, Nights of Azure 2, Lost Sphear, Skyrim, Rocket League, The End Is Nigh, FIFA, NBA 2k, WWE... I'm buying a ton of games. Even more when Dragon Quest Heroes 1/2 and DQ Builders 2 and DQXI and SMTV finally release and come west.
@JaxonH I've heard I Am Setsuna was depressing, and I'm not much of a turn-based RPG player these days, since I've had (nearly) every Pokemon, Fates and Awakening in terms of FE, plenty of turn-based on my computer, etc. I'm not one for depressing, and yeah, over-saturation on my end, along with genuine disinterest in that particular game.
I do usually buy JRPGs, but Setsuna was not my jam. You can be damn sure I'll get Octopath though. Nights of Azure, I would but.... There's too much as well....
I usually don't go for DQ, because I don't like that first-person way of fighting monsters. I want to see my characters, so if it offers that, sure, I'll indulge.
As for buying games for portability, yeah, that's a thing as well. I personally don't care for that, but I guess it does sell extra just for that reason.
@JaxonH@UmniKnight
I Am Setsuna was an awesome game - I loved it. And I'm very picky with my RPGs these days. I also don't know where the talk about poor sales is coming from - I was under the impression it did pretty well considering it never sold gangbusters on PS4, either.
I mean, at the very least they've decided to bring the next game to Switch again, so it couldn't have done too bad, especially in this all-too cutthroat industry.
@JaxonH I wonder when they'll release Octopath... It's been silent surrounding that one for quite some time now, practically since it was announced. We know Nintendo is keeping things under wraps. I wonder when we'll next get another direct....
Speaking of keeping things under wraps, I daresay they could do with some more sharing of info on what's coming.
Probably gonna let MHXX release, let Mario x Rabbids release, get most of September knocked out with Metroid, Rayman Legends, DB Xenoverse, FIFA, Pokken Tourney, MH Stories, etc. Then host a Direct for Odyssey, Xenoblade and Fire Emblem Warriors info. As for Project Octopath Traveller, I think that'll come from Square Enix. Maybe after Lost Sphear, Idk...
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
@UmniKnight
I think we'll see a Direct shortly after Rabbids comes out, so early/mid September, which would also be about a month until Odyssey - perfect time to get people pumped for the start of the Holiday season (yes, Holiday season now begins in October lol).
Plus, if they do one around mid September, they could probably get away with one more around Black Friday after people have had a month to digest Odyssey - could use it as a final reminder of all the other non-Mario games for Switch during the Holidays.
On a semi-related note, I was in the King of Prussia mall today (MASSIVE mall outside of Philadelphia for all non-U.S. peeps), and there were signs all over the place for Nintendo's "Summer of Play" event or whatever that would be happening next weekend. They had pictures of ARMS and Mario Kart that I saw, and the advertising was VERY visible. Pretty cool to see after the dark years of the Wii U. Really seems like they're keeping up the strong marketing campaign for Switch.
@rallydefault As they should, marketing makes sure those who are not in the know are aware regardless. New people to buy the Switch could also be those to buy third-party, alleviating the problem of all the testing.
@JaxonH I hope we get some localisation news, or SOMETHING from Capcom regarding MH for Switch in the West. If not, then I will not let that stand, after 3DS and Nintendo's crowd has supported them as well as they have, building the Western base on their back. I'll get MHW for my PC, but the grudge will be written in the book!
As for others, well, Nintendo has said frequently to have unannounced projects, and I await news of them with eager anticipation. I'm ready to buy more games for the Switch. I want my boxes to stack higher than my TV!
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