And yes, I know they can announce and release a game in the same year (3D World), however the ''now in development'' and based on what Reggie said, I think it's extremely unlikely we'll be seeing Metroid Prime next year. As for Pokemon, I don't think it's impossible, in fact, I think it's very possible. It's just that they launched Sun and Moon last year, ending this generation this soon feels a bit rushed, even for GameFreak's standards.
All reasonable conclusions if your assumptions are correct. Not that I think you're assumptions are unreasonable but you could still be wrong. For example Nintendo could be holding back on Metroid footage given how much they shot themselves in the foot with showing Zelda so early on. With Pokemon you're assuming that it's a new generation of game on the Switch but it could just as easily not be.
Do I think you're probably right? Yes. What you're saying makes a lot of sense. But at the same time if you had asked me a couple of months ago I would have not predicted E3 at all. I would have said the Switch is getting Pokemon Stars this year, Animal Crossing Switch early next year, bugger all on 3DS and good luck seeing Metroid at all. Then E3 starts up and there's no Animal Crossing and two Metroid games with one on the 3DS coming out this year. So I've given up predicting for now
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Yoshida: I’ve said this on several occasions, but it hasn’t changed. We would love for as many players to be on FFXIV as possible.
Conversations have been had with Mr. Phil Spencer of Microsoft, and the upper management teams of Nintendo. But I have proposed a condition every time I speak with any platform manufacturers. It’s that the game has to have the capability of cross-platform play.
Of course with an MMORPG, once it launches and starts going into live services and operations, there will be a community. No matter how small it dwindles down to, we have to be responsible for taking care of those communities. It would become an obstacle if the first-party or manufacturer changed how patches are being implemented or online regulations. Some of our external parties’ regulations don’t have MMORPGs in mind in terms of how they’re regulating their online activities. Those can become a hurdle when we consider operating FFXIV for an extended period of time, and so when I talk to those first-party companies, I ask them, ‘Do you have the capability to prepare for that, do you have the resolve that you’re going to make sure to take responsibility and take care of those, do you have that willingness?’
If we are able to come to some sort of agreement, a handshake so to speak, or if it does end up being that unfortunately we can’t do a handshake with Final Fantasy XIV, either way we’ll make sure to communicate with our players. But we have been tenacious—we’ve been trying to keep at it and be persistent about our conversations.
I think we'll see both of them in 2018. Nintendo needs a big game to anchor the year. Yes that could be Pokémon on its own but they'll want to fight against Switch becoming a kids gaming ghetto.
Pokémon will create a swing in that direction so they'll want to offer something to help counterbalance it. Nothing else Nintendo has fits the bill better than Metroid.
Whether the game actually makes it out in 2018 or not is anyone's guess. I think they're earnestly working on the basis of it being a holiday 2018 release but they were working on Zelda being a holiday 2015 release...
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If the Pokemon game is (basically) just an up-res'd 3DS version, I can see it coming Summer 2018.
But I still really don't see Prime 4 until 2019. I mean, if it's anything like the other Prime games, it's gonna be big. And not only that, but the dev team has been quoted as saying they are trying to both stay true to the original and innovate, so that makes me think it's going to take some time.
@rallydefault Indeed. Going with what I said earlier; the ''now in development'', Reggie saying they wanted to reveal Metroid Prime early just to get the news out there and the fact that Tanabe has said before that a new Prime game would take them at least 3 years to develop (this was back in 2015 mind you, but I don't think they started development immediately after he said that). I don't know. It's possible in theory, I just think it's extremely unlikely. It's most likely a 2019 game, provided they started development last year.
I think Metroid is 2019, it seems it just begun development if they can't even show a CGO trailer. Pokémon will be 2018, and I disagree it is a children's game - Pokémon's competitive community nowadays is full of adults. A kid won't be interested in EV or all the other stuff.
Prime 4 could easily be 2020. They're going to want to polish it very heavily, and it's an internal studio. Like BotW, 2019 just seems too early for a game of that magnitude. If it's out in 2019 I'd worry it's a shrunken game. I don't think they want to do that for the series reboot. Q1-Q2 2020 earliest IMO. I don't think it's a game they'd hold for Holiday 2020....it's hardcore, not a family game.
Pokemon, Holiday 2018, almost no question. I would have thought another year of milking 3DS, honestly, but Ishihara-san said "might be more than a year (from June)", and Pokemon is almost always a Fall/Holiday release....so that to me is pretty dead locked on Fall/Holiday 2018.
I'm expecting 2020 for Metroid. If we're at the point where all they have to show is a logo, there's no way they could finish it by 2019 IMO, especially since we're already halfway through 2017.
No way Metroid Prime 4 is hitting that late. 2019 seems the most likely but I'm still holding out hope for 18. Just because all they showed was a logo doesn't mean they don't have more to show. I just can't see Nintendo with their current philosophy showing a game 2 years out then alone 3 even if only a logo.
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Another way to think about Metroid Prime 4 and Pokemon Switch. How many of the Switch games for this year started development last year? Probably not many at all. I'd wager that most of the Switch games coming out this year started development in either 2014 or 2015. And if you look at what producers for some of the games coming out were working on before the current Switch releases? Their previous games mostly came out in 2014 and 2015.
So therefore next year's Switch games probably started development in either 2015 or 2016. So far we know about Yoshi and Kirby for sure and we have a question mark over Metroid and Pokemon. What I'm wondering is if one of those other games in development isn't Metroid or Pokemon what is it? There's only a finite number of teams and a lot of 2019 will be filled with games from the teams that released games this year. What is the 2018 game if not Metroid?
Konami Confirm PES 2018 Isn’t Coming To Nintendo Switch
“One thing that I will say about the Switch is, we’re getting asked that quite a lot.The fact is, we’ve announced all the platforms that PES 2018 is coming to. But as I’ve been saying to a lot of people, we have a great relationship with Nintendo – we’ve obviously brought out Bomberman which has done fantastic for the Switch.
“So as a company it’s a platform that we’re looking at, for sure. So for PES it’s just – we never want to say no, we never want to close the door. Let’s see how it goes. Personally speaking, I love the machine. We think it’s definitely performed amazingly well. And we really hope that it continues to do very well.”
If we have to sign in to Xbox Live to play crossplay...ya don't suppose Microsoft expect us to subscribe to it as well? OMG that would be the definition of ballsy! 'Lets charge em a subscription, even though they don't even own an Xbox!'
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@rallydefault I think Pokémon has to be something new. It can't be just an up rezzed port if Nintendo require it to drive attention and sales of the Switch.
I'd also say that Game Freak are pretty conservative and they won't reinvent the wheel. They know they've got what they do down to an art - so all things given it'll be there in 2018. For Christmas.
Metroid is a different story. I think they must be working to a planned 2018 deadline (unless they have something else big enough to anchor the year still under wraps). Whether they actually make it or it slips is a different question...
Nintendos biggest franchises - the ones big enough to pull a console through a holiday period are:
Mario
Zelda
Metroid
Smash Brothers
Mario Kart
Pokémon
Splatoon
Animal Crossing
Wii Sports
We're getting 4 of them this year (& therefore they won't turn up next year). Smash is likely to be a port or substantially reheated (far more so than Splatoon 2) - it'll be great but it's not something they'll want to build all of their marketing around. The others (like Animal Crossing) appeal to a 'non-traditional' crowd.
So if Metroid does slip then there's not much that can replace it. It'd present a major loss of momentum.
I'm honestly looking forwards to some weird, new, and completely unexpected big games from Nintendo.
Nintendo Explains Why They Didn't Focus on Indie Games at E3 We spoke at length with Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aimé about fan games, 'Animal Crossing' mobile, and the first public E3.
"But to be clear, we look at E3 in the here and now. Our focus is on games that are largely going to be available between now and the end of the holiday season. And when you look at that lineup, there's a strong game coming literally every month, starting tomorrow with Arms, and then Splatoon 2, then in August is the Mario + Rabbids game, September, October with Super Mario Odyssey. We've got that great pace of content, and I can tell you there's more to be announced."
I think the big holiday 2018 game will be 2D Mario. If you think about the past, 2014 is the only year in the past decade that didn't have a Mario platformer and given we already have 3D Mario coming to Switch in the form of Odyssey that leaves 2D for next year. Whether it takes the form of a Super Mario Maker port/sequel or a fully featured 2D Mario adventure, I'm not sure.
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