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SwitchForce

@WoomyNNYes I did but that is on a PC doing the Demo not from the actual console itself so that is misleading. If they showed it running on actual PS5 it would show how it is running it but there is no showing of it. Only til they show the actual hardware running it would have some credits to it.

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ThanosReXXX

SwitchForce wrote:

@WoomyNNYes I did but that is on a PC doing the Demo not from the actual console itself so that is misleading.

And you know this how?

Allow me to quote from the horse's mouth:

Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney:

"The Unreal Engine 5 demo on PlayStation 5 was the culmination of years of discussions between Sony and Epic on future graphics and storage architectures. The Nanite and Lumen tech powering it will be fully supported on both PS5 and Xbox Series X and will be awesome on both."

Source:
https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1261410827162152960

I'd say that this is proof enough that the demo WAS running on an actual console dev kit and NOT on a PC.

In other words: you know nothing. Don't spread BS if you have no idea what you're talking about.

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SwitchForce

@ThanosReXXX Did you see the actual display or not. What they didn't show was the layout or a person Demoing it just saying it was on PS5. So that wasn't proof of it running on other then PC development system. The one spreading BS is you if you can't provide the video of a person playing on PS5 Development for all to see. Nothing in the video showed the actual hardware running it.

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BruceCM

But you're not providing any evidence of your claim that it's running on a PC instead of console & without some reason to think they're lying about it ....

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ThanosReXXX

@SwitchForce Right back at'cha, genius.

As if all the reputable sources that reported on it, and all the official sources tweeting about it aren't proof enough. Button prompts inside the game were also PlayStation buttons, although those could be faked if they wanted to.

Either way, there's no reason WHATSOEVER to believe this is not running on a PS5 dev kit, like both Epic and Sony have explicitly mentioned. Seems like the burden of proof is upon you, then.

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BruceCM

Yeah, clearly so, @ThanosReXXX .... There'd be enough experts looking at it to have said if there was any actual reason to think it wasn't running on the console, too

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ThanosReXXX

@BruceCM Just imagine Epic having been in talks with Sony for all these years, to find out what it is they wanted from this tech demo, which from Sony's perspective is CLEARLY also to put out a showcase of the consoles capabilities, only for Epic to stab them in the back and sneakily run the tech demo on a PC instead.

The idea is just too stupid and ridiculous to consider.

And besides that, the people at Digital Foundry definitely aren't fools either, so if the demo wasn't running on an actual dev kit, they would definitely know and tell us.

So, what we've got here, is a rather classic and common case of "armchair-specialist-eritus"...

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BruceCM

Who's made up their mind, presumably just based on 'it looks too good to be true, therefore it isn't' or something, @ThanosReXXX .... It won't be that long until we start seeing games made with it, anyway! Although it might take a little time for devs to learn the new stuff & get the most out of it

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WoomyNNYes

SwitchForce wrote:

Did you see the actual display or not. What they didn't show was the layout or a person Demoing it just saying it was on PS5. So that wasn't proof of it running on other then PC development system. The one spreading BS is you if you can't provide the video of a person playing on PS5 Development for all to see. Nothing in the video showed the actual hardware running it.

@SwitchForce Since Playstation & Xbox haven't put their consoles on sale yet, I expect they are still keeping things as secret as they can. If that's a given, you can disregard.

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ThanosReXXX

@BruceCM Well, that'll depend on how easy it is to port from Unreal Engine 4 to 5, and of course on top of that, how easy it is to add all those shiny new effects. Current games still in development will obviously not yet take advantage of it, for the most part, depending on their completion state, so for fully developed, native Unreal Engine 5 games to appear, might in fact still take a year or two.

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ThanosReXXX

@WoomyNNYes If I were you, I wouldn't even have taken the effort to respond to it. And the dev kits have already been revealed, as well as the final model of the new Xbox, with Sony's console to follow soon.

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BruceCM

It's the native U5 & on next gen, so I'd think about that long, too, @ThanosReXXX ....

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GrailUK

Sony are very clever to get their name associated with Unreal 5 off the bat. Consumer perception and all that. However, I do share the distrust of Sony. It's never as transparent (or as honest) as they make out. Remember the PS3 Killzone, Getaway demos and the real time explosion at the petrol station? The Final Fantasy demo. They oversell their hardware with stuff more for fooling your imagination rather than straight up gameplay. I don't believe for a second it was true gameplay (especially the flying section which looked more directed than 'on the fly' (pardon the pun) gameplay. The preceding section looked heavily scripted. So sure, there may have been some gameplay in there somewhere, but it won't be a true reflection of a game more the graphics (under optimum conditions (tm)).

As for it being on a PS5. Well, we can only take their word for it. Granted, there have been instances in the past where they are running on a PC set to similar (or even greater) specs than the actual hardware. And that's not only Sony's domain.

It looked nice, but holy cow, are we all expected to marvel at rubble and cliff surfaces? If you walked around in the real world doing that, you would get some funny looks.

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Dezzy

SwitchForce wrote:

@WoomyNNYes I did but that is on a PC doing the Demo not from the actual console itself so that is misleading. If they showed it running on actual PS5 it would show how it is running it but there is no showing of it. Only til they show the actual hardware running it would have some credits to it.

They're not gonna lie about something like that.

The Unreal Engine is free to use. They make money from it by taking a cut of the profits on games that are made with it.

So lying about the feature of their engine would essentially destroy their business. People would find out they'd been lying before they'd given Epic any money at all, and probably ditch the engine for something else.

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rallydefault

You just have to take their word for it. I mean, who's ever heard of a video game company releasing a misleading gameplay trailer for anything?

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BruceCM

& they get called out for it, @rallydefault.... By the experts, if it's something like this

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ThanosReXXX

@GrailUK Seeing as dev kits are usually quite a bit stronger than the actual consoles they're linked to, it's not really that much of a stretch to actually trust that this was indeed done on an actual console dev kit and not a PC.

As for it not being a game: of course it wasn't, it was an interactive tech demo, much like that Zelda one back when the Wii U was first officially shown off at E3. And personally, while I was not exactly "marveling at rubble and cliff surfaces", I could definitely see that there was quite a lot more detail in there, and a lot more realism than anything we've seen on consoles so far, so for an artificial world, it was most definitely quite impressive.

And, as mentioned in the official video, this is the first time EVER that movie quality assets can instantly be imported into the engine, instead of having to render them inside the engine, using up valuable computing power and processing/display speed. And ZERO loss of detail when zooming in as well. In a lot if not still all games today, scenery degrades in quality when you walk up close to it, but this clearly didn't, hence movie quality assets.

If they can actually manage to put this in games at this level of fidelity, then we might just be one step closer to playing Pixar quality games at home, instead of a watered down version of them...

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