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CaviarMeths

martinskrtel37 wrote:

so fake zelda games have fixed camera angles but real ones have free camera control

Not quite, as that would make Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, and Wind Waker fake Zelda games too. Due to only having a single analog stick, you can only control the camera while in first person mode. I wouldn't quite call that "free."

But I assure you that OoT, MM, and WW are very real.

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Dezzy

Lol the fixedness of the camera angle determine how real a Zelda game they are?

So when Majora's mask added full 360 camera control on the New 3DS, did it become a more real Zelda game?

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SpookyMeths wrote:

martinskrtel37 wrote:

so fake zelda games have fixed camera angles but real ones have free camera control

Not quite, as that would make Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, and Wind Waker fake Zelda games too. Due to only having a single analog stick, you can only control the camera while in first person mode. I wouldn't quite call that "free."

But I assure you that OoT, MM, and WW are very real.

I'm getting the impression this was a satire of me.

As you said, most Zelda games use some kind of fixed camera angles. I love fixed camera angles, actually. It's just when that camera angle is always staring at the dirt—top-down perspectives—that I have a problem with it. And it's not a matter of real or fake, but rather what constitutes a 'Zelda game' that I care about to a great degree.

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keife191

in my opinion spinoff titles, mainly the handheld games and games like crossbow training arent real representations of zelda games, for example call of duty advanced warfare isnt a real call of duty game, battlefield hardline isnt a real battlefield game, metroid other M isnt a real metroid game, and definitely 4swords adventure and triforce heroes arent real zelda games

also as much as i love the gameplay and story (for the most part) of wind waker, i refuse it as a zelda game for the simple fact you play some random kid who just randomly happens upon the right circumstances to take control of being the hero, and not an incarnation of the hero of time

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Eel

keife191 wrote:

in my opinion spinoff titles, mainly the handheld games ...

Hah, by that I hope you mean the handheld spinoffs and not handheld Zeldas in general.

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keife191

Morpheel wrote:

keife191 wrote:

in my opinion spinoff titles, mainly the handheld games ...

Hah, by that I hope you mean the handheld spinoffs and not handheld Zeldas in general.

of course, what i meant was most of the spinoff titles are handheld games, not that all handheld zeldas are spinoffs, sorry lol

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heres an idea, theres more immersion into the world of zelda coming as you can eat apples, fish and farm etc.

do you want to see the masks from MM return as outfits that unlock jobs? for example, postman link? or bartender link?

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Chandlero

SpookyMeths wrote:

martinskrtel37 wrote:

so fake zelda games have fixed camera angles but real ones have free camera control

Not quite, as that would make Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, and Wind Waker fake Zelda games too. Due to only having a single analog stick, you can only control the camera while in first person mode. I wouldn't quite call that "free."

But I assure you that OoT, MM, and WW are very real.

In Wind Waker you have full control of the camera. The camera is free in almost every situation.

Chandlero wrote:

In Wind Waker you have full control of the camera. The camera is free in almost every situation.

That's what I was thinking. Made me wonder if my memory had broken then!

Gamecube had that wannabe analog stick after all. (I like how Nintendo have twice now made fake analog sticks)

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keife191 wrote:

in my opinion spinoff titles, mainly the handheld games and games like crossbow training arent real representations of zelda games, for example call of duty advanced warfare isnt a real call of duty game, battlefield hardline isnt a real battlefield game, metroid other M isnt a real metroid game, and definitely 4swords adventure and triforce heroes arent real zelda games

also as much as i love the gameplay and story (for the most part) of wind waker, i refuse it as a zelda game for the simple fact you play some random kid who just randomly happens upon the right circumstances to take control of being the hero, and not an incarnation of the hero of time

So wait, now Wind Waker isn't a real Zelda game anymore? You're the opposite of Haru17! Not many real Zelda games are left...

Also, Other M is definitely a Metroid game. Just because some people whine about the game, that doesn't mean it's not a Metroid game. It's the next main series Metroid game after Fusion. Actually, Metroid Prime (or the Prime series for that matter) was the ''spin-off'' title(/series).

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Other M is technically more of a metroid game than the prime series.

Edit: oh you mentioned that in your post too.

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keife191 wrote:

also as much as i love the gameplay and story (for the most part) of wind waker, i refuse it as a zelda game for the simple fact you play some random kid who just randomly happens upon the right circumstances to take control of being the hero, and not an incarnation of the hero of time

That's stupid as it happens with almost all the Links and even though it's not flat out stated it probably is the same Link.

In any case he's the Hero of Winds, Skyward Sword and Minish Cap had Links that came before OOT so couldn't be reincarnations of the Hero of Time, if Hero's Shade is the Hero of Time that makes TP Link not the Hero of Time either.

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keife191

i only say wind waker isnt a zelda game technically, it completely follows what a zelda game is, except for one thing, you follow a random kid instead of the hero of time. i admit i feel a little less strongly about it now, but when wind waker first came out and i found out you were playing some random kid i was pissed lol. now not so much, but it still a little sad thinking back to that time when i first found out

and no, its stated quite clearly that the hero from wind waker has nothing to do with the hero of time, i think the red king says it in the game

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Eel

Well, yeah, in the Wind Waker the lineage of the hero disappeared when Zelda sent Link back to the past at the end of Ocarina of Time, leaving the "Adult Link" universe without a hero of time.

The WW Link however, becomes the new big hero after obtaining the master sword and collecting the triforce of courage. He also ends the curse of Demise by killing Ganon for good. That's pretty heroic, right?

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keife191 wrote:

i only say wind waker isnt a zelda game technically, it completely follows what a zelda game is, except for one thing, you follow a random kid instead of the hero of time. i admit i feel a little less strongly about it now, but when wind waker first came out and i found out you were playing some random kid i was pissed lol. now not so much, but it still a little sad thinking back to that time when i first found out

and no, its stated quite clearly that the hero from wind waker has nothing to do with the hero of time, i think the red king says it in the game

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Blast wrote:

You... really like the Legend of Zelda series, huh?

ya, zelda is the best

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