Topic: Kirby and the Forgotten Land

Bleh, everyone just ignored or overlooked my suggestion on Super Kirby Maker. TwT

You know we all want it. lol

Beat the game today. Absolutely phenomenal experience - I have a few small issues with it, but it's incredible how well HAL pulled off the shift to 3D. I honestly prefer it to the game it's been compared to most, Super Mario 3D World - part of that is just personal preference, as I prefer having more options to attack enemies through Copy Abilities instead of having to jump or use projectiles, but I also think the environment design and mechanics are a step-up, and everything else is fairly comparable in terms of quality.

Finished getting all the "No Damage" (and a few other random) achievements for the boss fights today. There are a handful of Waddle Dees still floating around regular levels left to get, but they shouldn't be as hard to obtain.

Also getting ready to face off against the final boss of the post game world. It's been a surprisingly stiff challenge getting here.

Well I'm bored, let's do The Ultimate Cup Z....
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Without any abilities. xD
I already know I'll fail this, just curious. lol

EDIT: ...and I did it first try apparently. >.> lol

Finished nabbing all of the Waddle Dees today.

I'll face the post game final boss next time.

I’m not too far into it but I have to say that it’s a great game. I say that as someone who isn’t a great Kirby fan - I’ve not played too many Kirby games seriously but if I had to say I’d say that the only Kirby games I’d really enjoyed were the original Dreamland and Pinball Land.

The “abilities” aspect in most post “Kirby’s Adventure” instalments (that is almost all Kirby games) kind of annoys me - though some are worse than others. It just gets in the way of how well designed and flexible Kirby’s original moveset is.

Everything seems extremely polished in this game though and aspects of the Kirby experience that normally frustrate me just seem to make a lot more sense in 3d. If I were Nintendo and HAL I’d be working on a follow up straight away.

That or “Kirby’s New Pinball Land”.

@NinChocolate oh I’m thinking a full on sequel with modern graphics and copy abilities (however ambivalent I usually am about them). I’d trust HAL to make something amazing.

Another HAL room (& a clue how to find it).

So the secret rooms are still a thing, huh? I was wondering how they would pull it off, the "door" or hole or whatever is usually hidden in the background somehow.

Anyways haven't found any of them during my playthrough.

Tried the Ultimate Cup Z tonight. I actually got a lot further than I thought I would, even at one point thought I had it in the bag (I had the final opponent beaten, or so I thought. Even with nearly full health & my backup maxim tomato still in reserve I got wrecked after that little surprise).

Probably not going to try again for awhile. Anyhow it's been an absolutely fantastic game.

...I like how these final arenas are always a nightmare when you first deal with them, but after you finally beat it, it's easy to do again. xD

@NinChocolate

Those are old games. Mario maker 2 is new though.

@NinChocolate

Yeah, but they are ports of older games.

Just finished the Isolated Isles quest.

Also finished Ultimate Z recently, hoo boy was that a pain. That last boss really tests your skills.

I am expecting the next game in the series to definitely be in 3D after this, but only because I think it'll be the Planet Robobot to this game's Triple Deluxe. A game using the same engine, released near the very end of the Switch's lifespan (I'm expecting the next main game in ~3 years). Bring back most of the copy abilities from this one with a whole slew of newly adapted to 3D ones and one or two new ones.

Though... with the 3D games taking longer to develop, I wonder if they'll expand to simply have a separate 2D-focused main series team? I think the series can easily support two teams at HAL if the 3D games continue selling as well as this one has.

So one of my favorite tracks in this game is Through the Tunnel

I find it interesting how people in the comments keep mentioning how it sounds like a song from another Kirby game, but everyone keeps mentioning a different song. I've heard people say it sounds like Great Cave Offensive, Coo the Owl's theme, Quiet Forest or Rock Star from Kirby 64, Prism Plains from Squeak Squad, Floral Field from Triple Deluxe, something from RtDL, something from Amazing Mirror. And then I think it sounds like the Contrast Cave remix of Grape Garden from Canvas Curse. This song really is a giant Rorschach test for Kirby music.

Now that I have done the Isolated isles: Yeah, this first 3D Kirby was really good. While it was super easy for the most part, it was also great fun and very charming. Sadly no attack-combo's, that might have been to much for a 3D Kirby. But the upgraded power-ups are great fun and I also love mouthful mode (Kirby turns into Barbapapa). The game does get trickier in the last world though, and Isolated isles is REALLY tricky (especially the bosses). Its also much bigger then I expected. 15+ hours in, and just 81% finished. Still lots to do. The game doesn't have much story for the most part, but at the end we get a lot of interesting story to ponder on. And it also gets creepy, though its not the proper endboss. And it gets really over the top (The sequence before the first credits). Everything you would expect from a Kirby. Also remarkable: No fan-service! Don't get me wrong: I love fan-service and Kirby games did it always very well, but its also refreshing to see a Kirby that doesn't rely at all on old music, sprites, etc.

I wonder what's next for Kirby. Another "Mario 3D world" Kirby wouldn't be bad at all, but maybe they go for free-roaming 3D (maybe openworld even)? I know they won't use old gimmicks, but the Planet robobot mechs would be wonderful in a free-roaming 3D game. Maybe a bit like Solatorobo?

Maybe if they brought the Planet Robobot mech back they could freshen it up by giving it different modes (bipedal for land, plane or helicopter for air, & submarine for underwater), which would work better in 3D than 2D.

In fact, now that I think about it, Forgotten Land didn't have any underwater sections at all, so that's something they should definitely bring back with the next one, even if it's level based like this one.

Almost done with the extra worlds, can some one explain to me what "stacking items" means from the item shop? I assumed it either meant he would sell you up to 5 at one time or you could continue to buy 1 at a time until you maxed out at 5, by I can only buy 1 and hold 1, so I don't understand why the sales waddle says I can stack up to 5 for attack and speed. I know double health is only 1. Thanks, it's driving me nuts.

...So I tried The Ultimate Cup Z, but in Wild Mode. Yeah, this isn't happening anytime soon. It seems like some of the bosses get a VERY SLIGHT change in some attacks that make them harder to dodge. Like, it's enough to bring my health quite a bit, and not only do you have less health in this mode and the bosses obviously hit a bit harder...I'm also pretty certain the normal tomaters (yes, tomaters, shush it, lol) don't recover as much health now.

So, yeah, not happening right now. lol