Topic: Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee!

@MarcelRguez @canucksfan989 Clunky isn't really a good word for it. Maybe outdated? More boring than anything to click A and then just sit and wait on rng. It needs a revamp. Leave the lowering health and status change to help with the odds, but add a critical spot (whether it be different on each pokemon or just like GO) and bonuses for you first throw hitting and spin bonuses to add even better chance to capture. This would make it more immersive and "intense" trying to catch that shiny. You could keep the just click A too for people how don't want touch or motion controls for that, maybe even and some stick controls.

@MarcelRguez I'm not saying that I dislike the current battle system as I have been playing Pokemon since Red & Blue and I think all the games are great. Having said that, it is just my opinion, but after a while it gets a bit boring always have to waste time weakening Pokemon and then trying frantically to capture them. This is particularly annoying when it comes to legendary Pokemon.

I totally get where Gamefreak is coming from. Make the capture system quick, innovative and fun by adopting the Pokemon Go system which also allows them to have Pokemon in real time - so instead of walking through the grass Pokemon appear in a location as in Pokemon Go. I think this is a decent approach given that the current capture system is over twenty years old. Again, I actually like the current capture system, it's just that I won't be upset if a new system is introduced.

I really hope this all proves true. If so, I' ll be very happy as I think Gamefreak has done well balancing keeping the traditional elements while innovating at the same time.

@NapalmPsalm Totally agree with you about the capture system - you articulated the point better than I did. I agree it isn't 'clunky' as such but just unnecessarily time consuming than with the Pokemon Go capture system.

@Yoshi87 Here is the thing though. Changing the way you capture it (like how we are describing it) would actually slow the process down rather than speed it up. They already have a quick menu and I can spam a and then the ball will go out. Basically what we are saying is: click the capture button, we can choose what ball to use, actually through the ball through motion or touch screen, and then go through the same animation. The only way I think it is faster is if they have a quick menu for the last item you use, and a separate pokeball button to choose. Even then it would only be faster on the first throw, not the next ones because I believe it should still take a turn each time you throw a ball.

@MarcelRguez Definitely an interesting point. I agree with you that it's not a huge issue. I guess I'm just relived that it appears that the capture system will be overhauled as opposed to the battle system in the major way they were indicating as I honestly think the battle system is absolutely fine and doesn't need anything changing... so I'd take a change of capture system any day over that.

@MarcelRguez The thing with that is the critical capture is complete rng whether it happens or not. The new critical capture could be like the Excellent in pokemon go where you have to make it happen and even then it doesn't have to guarantee a capture, that would just be broken.

The battle system isn't complete rng though. It's more like chess with rng effects to it to each choice. Like I said, the battle system get changes every gen/game. The capture system has gotten new balls and critical catch. It needs something to really shake it up like the battle system has had in the past.

A different approach to the current method would be appreciated from my perspective. I'm not sure about that whole Go catching thing, but the current method where you essentially just play against the odds is not what I consider fun.

Nowadays it's much easier to capture legendaries and such, but it doesn't feel very rewarding or skilled. Just more grinding. Like in the past when fighting against Legendaries it would come down to dwindling the health of the Pokemon down, inflicting status ailments and lobbing balls until you either caught it or it faints. Some greater form of interaction would be nice.

being someone whos never played a Pokemon game, never seen a Pokemon show or cartoon

what is the prime style of these games?

@-Green- They really should update the Pokeball thing. It's only been the same since, like, 1998. Some sort of mini game with active inputs to affect your chances would be cool.

@MarcelRguez so the human character is who you are? And are there good Pokémon and bad ones

Like that pikachu guy he looks good so you capture him and others to squad up against bad monsters?

I've been playing since Red and Blue when I was 9 and I really am over the Kanto pandering and revisits. I want a new region with new Pokemon. Kanto isn't even an interesting region.

I am seriously hoping these supposed "Let's Go! Pikachu" and "Let's Go! Eevee" games are fake, the fact that all these "rumors" seem to revolve around Pikachu and Eevee makes me worry even more. The last thing I want are Kanto remakes, we don't need them. We've been to Kanto 6 times (this counts Red/Blue, Yellow, Gold/Silver, Crystal, FR/LG, HG/SS) and even though I'd be fine with it being a bonus region of sorts, I don't want it to be the main focus like it may come out to be. Also the comparison between Pikachu and Eevee doesn't seem that fair, I can understand having Eevee as a starter since it has a large variety of evolutions, but when compared to Pikachu you have essentially a normal line of pure electric types (not counting Alolan Raichu), and then you have a Pokemon with 8 unique evolutions. I fail to see how that is equal at all.

@Deku-Scrub I think the reason Pikachu and Eevee would be the split is because of the anime. Pikachu version would have you play as Ash and Eevee version would have you play as Gary. As in actually play as those characters rather than a character you can customize like in previous games.

The question is, mechanically, who in their right mind would choose Pikachu version? Unless you're really that big a fan of Pikachu you're ten times better off with a starter that can potentially evolve into several options, including one that's the same type as Pikachu but better in every way imaginable.

That aside, this is the first time I'm not looking forward to a Pokemon game if all these rumors pan out. I'm sick to death of Kanto (the last two gens alone couldn't go five seconds without shoving it down our throats), and coupling that with the prospect of dumbed down Go mechanics is already rubbing me all the wrong ways.

@Deku-Scrub Yeah I’m not a fan of returning to Kanto either, I’d prefer a true Gen 8. But at this point there’s so much evidence pointing to it that I’ve decided to accept it. Of course rumors can still end up being false, but there is so much that all adds up — and things like the official Pokémon Twitter and upcoming Pokémon movie heavily promoting Eevee — that these rumors are likely true.

Hopefully they change up Kanto enough that it doesn’t feel too similar. Plus I hope they add Pokémon from other generations in — like being able to find a Starly in Route 1 or a Wimpod in a lake, for example. If they do that I’d like it more.

@Snagrio That’s what I think as well, but if these rumors are true I’m suspecting a catch to all of this. Maybe the Pikachu can’t evolve like in Yellow version, and either this Eevee can’t evolve or it can only evolve into certain Eeveelutions.

Did we learn nothing from Pokemon Stars, when everyone was so certain that was real too?

I'm not saying these "leaks" are bogus, but "seemingly real" stuff has been proven to be wrong before. I'll wait until official news come out, rumors and stuff are extremely boring by now.

@EvilLucario I strongly echo this. Not to mention that I just don't want this to be real anyway lol.

Pokemon does need a revolution or a change, I'll be the first to admit that. But changing the formula to match up more with a free-to-play mobile game can't be the right path for the series.

@MarcelRguez sorry I'm not trying to say it is only rng with the current system. I don't mean to convey that. I'm actually saying to keep the current system where you weaken them and status them, but also add the go style and you actually throw the ball, and you can add spin, hit a "critical" spot, and get better rng for hitting your first ball. So I'm not saying get rid of rng, I'm just asking for more control and feel more immersive at the same time. Again, sorry for the poor communication. I was just really rushed with all my comments since I was at work.

@EvilLucario I mean there’s also no evidence proving that Pokémon Stars wasn’t a thing either. Most likely development plans changed once Nintendo decided it didn’t need Pokémon in a year with Zelda and Mario. I still think Pokémon stars was very much real, but it was canned before it was fully developed cause Nintendo decided it didn’t need a Pokémon game ASAP on Switch and Game Freak realized they’d be better off making a new Pokémon game for Switch. And considering the supposed leaks with the Trainer surfing on a Lapras with an Eevee on his head look almost exactly like Sun and Moon graphics, they might be using the work from Pokémon Stars and just channeling it into this game.

But yeah at this point I think I’m getting tired of rumors as well. In less than a month everything should be revealed.