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Pizzamorg

Hot damn that Diamond clan leader, I will definitely choose him… I mean the Diamond Clan if I must choose a faction.

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VoidofLight

I really like the character designs in this game honestly. Just wish we'd get more in terms of gameplays and features, and less in terms of pokemon and characters.

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Octane

Without voice acting it looks very lifeless. It's just a little awkward to look at. Not even grunts or whatever sounds. A game like this should've had VA, even if it was just for the cutscenes.

Octane

Pizzamorg

Yeah that is one disappointment I took away from that trailer too, seriously, 2022 and we’re still doing no voices and slow scrolling text instead? Please stop doing this Nintendo.

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VoidofLight

I am probably the only person who actually doesn't want voice acting in Pokemon. I just know it's going to be awful, based on the anime, and based on the Demographic Gamefreak has in mind for these sorts of games. They probably wouldn't even let you switch to Japanese or turn off the Voice acting either, given that this is gamefreak we're talking about, and they won't even let you turn off EXP share.

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BrazillianCara

I really think people overestimate the importance of voice acting in RPGs. "Lifeless"? Come on.
On the other hand, a little bit for more important scenes could be a decent compromise. And what little I've heard from the voice acting in New Pokémon Snap (don't own it) was fairly inoffensive.

BrazillianCara

VoidofLight

@BrazillianCara I mean, to be fair, Snap was made by Bandai, not Gamefreak. If Gamefreak had involvement in casting, I fear for the worst.

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Pizzamorg

I personally just think no voice acting, all text, makes a game feel cheap.

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Octane

Also, I'm kinda annoyed at the fact that this game is supposedly set in the past, in a colder region, yet we have this little girl looking like she's from some futuristic anime, running around in barely any proper clothing. Why isn't this game consistent? The arceus phone was one thing, but this design looks absolutely stupid given the context.

Octane

Octane

@VoidofLight That's no excuse I think. VA should be good, period. But the fact that you don't expect them to handle it well says enough I think lol. Pokemon games are still years behind the rest of the industry. If you compare this to something like Horizon Forbidden West, or BOTW2 (and realise they're asking the same price for it, whilst probably outselling both) it's just outrageous.

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jump

Chris Pratt to voice Hisuian Voltorb!

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Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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VoidofLight

Eh, the games not really in the same vein as those. I agree there's so much more they could do to make the series better, but this unfortunately how the series has always been. They usually take baby steps to get anywhere, given how they're scared of taking chances and ruining the brand. The fact that Legends even really exists is just baffling, given that Gamefreak usually never does something that leaps far from what came before.

Also, I don't think that not having voice acting = cheap. There's still tons of games that lack proper full voice acting in everything, and it's not really as awful as people make it out to be. It's just that people are so used to having series implement voice acting that when a series doesn't, it feels cheap to them. It's kind of like how the open world trend was, and still is. People felt like if games weren't truly open world like BotW on switch, then they were cheaper or weren't as good.

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VoidofLight

The one thing that puts me off about these games is the fact that they keep locking some really cool stuff behind the other games in the series. Legends seems to have the most bonuses that are locked behind owning games like Let's Go, Sword and Shield, and BDSP. I own all three, so the bonuses don't bother me as much, however it still feels weird how they're locking things like mythicals behind these games. Clothing, I get.. but mythical pokemon? C'mon..

The only thing I could really say about these mythicals is that they at least have proper events in this game, and aren't just handed through Mystery Gift like every other pokemon game. I hope they retain that in Gen 9.

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SViper

@Pizzamorg oh, that's interesting saying. xD
But people how no one is saying that Irida (Pearl Clan Leader) is looks like as beauty from this era then era 200 years ago. xD

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BrazillianCara

The thing about pokémon games that leads to so many heated discussions is how little we get to know about the development process itself. Earlier today I heard that Dan Salvato (creator of Doki Doki Literature Club and Smash Melee modder) was on Twitter asking why, despite being part of a high-grossing franchise, Legends Arceus looked like a Gamecube game - later clarifying that he didn't mean this as a diss, but as an indication that this could be a sign of a troubled production. And I kind of agree, though that didn't stop the usual inflammatory comments accusing the developers of laziness or apathy.
And that's the thing: we don't know what's going on in Game Freak's and the TPC's offices, so people start making assumptions based on industry trends and happenings. A lot of the "greedy exploitative company" discourse applies more to certain western AAA companies than to a Japanese company working directly under Nintendo (whose higher-ups receive significantly less compared to their western counterparts), but that's the immediate reference point we get.
We can't tell with 100% certainty if recent pokémon games aren't as visually impressive as their contemporaries because of passionless developers working under tight deadlines enforced by the people in charge, or if the developers have certain principles (like deliberately working with a small staff to manage things more closely or keeping tight deadlines to challenge themselves) that go against many fans' ambitions and expectations and the franchise's success gives them the liberty to keep doing things their way, or if it's a little bit of both.
We don't know, because they won't tell - and with how hostile some of the reactions have been (something we do know they are aware of), I don't see them opening up anytime soon.

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Pizzamorg

I don’t get all the “graphics bad” criticisms, personally. Performance bad? Certainly, but I think there are much worse looking games on the Switch. Shield, for example, has some of the brightest and crispest visuals you’d find on the system and is supported by great art design. There are other games which may be more complex in terms of what the visuals are doing, but they usually come with muddy, blurry, visuals and their own suite of performance issues too.

If I looked at Legends compared to say a Series X/PC game at Ultra, then sure, but in the context of the Switch library, I think the complaints about the graphics are either overblown or they are confusing the term graphics, with more problematic things like certain animations or performance issues, but I don’t think those are really the same thing.

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VoidofLight

@BrazillianCara I don't get the people who make the argument of "iT's ThE wOrlD's BiGgEsT fRaNcHiSe, So It ShOuLd Be BeTtEr!", when they don't understand how franchises operate. The games aren't TPC's priority, and haven't been for the longest time. They make more money off the anime and the merch than they do the games, and that's where they sink the most money into. The games pretty much just exist for new pokemon and regions for the anime, and that's about all sadly.

Also, the gamecube game argument can easily be debunked when you compare Gale of Darkness, a game that everyone praised for being "Better looking than sword and shield" to Legends. Gale of Darkness looks drastically worse.

@Pizzamorg The only thing I can see that's not great are the muddy textures, which only seem noticeable in Legends if you look extremely close at them.

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Octane

@VoidofLight Moot point, the games are incredibly profitable on their own. They're among the best selling games. So even if you ignore the 'rest' of the franchise, the point still stands.

Octane

VoidofLight

@Octane But most of the money isn't even going towards the games themselves. That's my point there. Most of the money is going into everything other than the games.

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Octane

@VoidofLight If they're not investing the money they earn from the games back into the games, then that's just plain stupid. Either way, it doesn't look good.

Octane

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