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jump

I remember going to the Sun & Moon launch event, it was loads of fun but one of the things I didn't do there was play the game early as it'd be such a meaningless experience and freed me up to do the other things there. I know how the game works already and it's too limited of an experience for the things I want to find out, besides the fun for me in Pokemon has always been building and investing in my own team.

@BlackTalon2 Yeah, Copperajah is a good looking one. I'm not really sure how an elephant is British though unless there's a part of the game which comments on the British empire's rule of India.

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Harmonie

Pre-release, without even playing the game I am already aware of three things that are huge counts against the game:

The obvious lack of National Dex. EXP Share being required. And (something I learned today from the leaks, so I'll spoiler it) the day/night cycle has been removed.

Given how much RSE removing the day/night cycle soured my opinion of them I already have a substantial feel of how I'll feel about this game and that's sad. I don't know why GF does this nonsense. I love Galar. I love the wolf legendaries. I love Galarian Ponyta, and am excited to see all of the new Pokemon/regional forms that I haven't been spoiled of... But, boy, it's hard to deny how mediocre this game looks. =(

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Snaplocket

@Harmonie So much for all that "game footage isn't final" talk. Huh?

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jump

Harmonie wrote:

Pre-release, without even playing the game I am already aware of three things that are huge counts against the game:

The obvious lack of National Dex. EXP Share being required. And (something I learned today from the leaks, so I'll spoiler it) the day/night cycle has been removed.

I hadn't realised that, how is Eevee gonna evolve into Umbreon or Espeon now?

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Harmonie

@Snaplocket The footage of the leaked game show no improvement over the Wild Area we were shown at E3. The trees still look like OOT trees.

@jump I heard it on another forum and have not been following the leaks as I want to leave some up to surprise, so I'm not really sure of the details. However, IIRC, I think the person who posted about it mentioned that certain areas are set at certain types of day. That's probably how Espeon and Umbreon work. BUT take this all with a grain of salt.

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Snaplocket

Snaplocket wrote:

Sun and Moon were definitely not over 40 hours. I expect these games to be around the 30 hour mark with little postgame. Anyone expecting significantly more is either unrealistically hopeful or just plain delusional.

Oh no.... looks like even that was expecting too much from this game, given that players are reporting a playtime of only 15 to 20 hours (tbf, they might have been rushing it).

@Harmonie Hey, I just wanna ask. If the game was stellar in just about every way BUT the graphics, would you be more positive? I'm asking because I've played some games that really don't look much better (Cold Steel III, Fire Emblem Three Houses, Disgaea 4 Complete +) but I still love them to death because of everything else. Also, games very, VERY rarely show significant difference from pre-release footage. In fact, more often then not it'll worse because most pre-release trailers are usually pre-rendered CGI. (you know, because there's no actual graphics yet)

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Ralizah

@Snaplocket Depending on how fast you take things, one's playtime in these titles can vary wildly. I'd basically expect this to be about as long as most later-gen Pokemon games.

And yeah, people who play leaked copy of games to gab about them online usually aren't stopping to smell the roses.

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Snaplocket

I will say here, this thread (and this game) has opened my eyes. I've defended the 3ds games and say they're great because the developers tried many new things and never worked with 3D before. With this game, however, I can't defend it anymore. This game is a lazy cash-grab. No ifs, ands or buts. The 3ds games had problems but at least they had soul.

@Ralizah The "rushed" averages on HLTB for Gens VI and VII are 20 and 23 hrs respectively. So even, if they're rushing the game, it's still noticeably shorter then previous titles.

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Harmonie

@Snaplocket TBH, the visuals have never even been my concern. Yes, I'd like them to be better, but if everything else was excellent, I would just laugh it off.

The problem comes when GF does stuff like cut the National Dex with the stated reason being to make the games better, but we still end up with OOT trees.

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jump

I expect I will get a 100+ hours out of it regardless of however long the story is. The meat and potatoes of the game for me is when I can properly breed and build a team.

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Maelwolf

@Harmonie You sure about Day/Night? That diorama website promotion specifically showed nighttime and Pokémon out during then.

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Maelwolf

@Galenmereth Same, easily my most anticipated game this year. With how great it looks so far, I have the feeling I’ll have a lot of games I haven’t got around to finishing yet go on the long-term backlog!

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Harmonie

@Maelwolf What I read mentioned that certain areas "can have night". I'm not sure what exactly that means. Maybe there is a cycle in certain areas but not others?

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-Juice-

@Harmonie
Nah, just bugs. One town has its day/night mismatched with all of the others, the Legendary Pokemon battle theme doesn’t play at all in the current version (dead silence), some things seem to freeze at times during certain actions. Sometimes Pokemon also pop out randomly in towns. Hopefully there will be a day one patch.

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Snaplocket

@-Juice- Man I know day one patches are standard these days but that kind of stuff just reeks of incompetence. Not everyone who buys it has an internet connection.

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jump

Galenmereth wrote:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say leakers may not have access to actual release version? Keep in mind I haven't watched any leaks because I want to explore this game for myself, and make up my own mind.

There's no reason to suspect they aren't the release version. It'd actually be a lot of tougher to get hold of an unfinished copy of the game as that would be kept within Ninty themselves but most leaks like this come from review copies that are sent out.

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-Juice-

@Galenmereth A lot of them got the games early. Retailers have been pretty bad about Pokemon street dates ever since X and Y.

In fact, the whole reason we first learned about the starter evos and dex number was because people had gotten the games early this gen.

As for your theory about incompetence, well... https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/dv463w/apparent_lea...
...take that with a grain of salt though. It seems too optimistic imo. Lol

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DarthNocturnal

Yeah, I took a stroll through the Pokemon subreddit... while some issues might be fixed/ overblown, it kinda makes me glad that there's another game coming this Friday that I want. I think Sword will be for a Christmas wishlist.

"Sometimes, I just don't understand human behavior" - C-3P0

-Juice-

@DarthNocturnal
I see the overblown response as a good thing, and here’s why:

We’ve always been pretty polite about our grievances with the 3D games, and ask nicely for a patch. They always respond with what amounts to an “lol nah” and we’re like “oh... okay.”

Now that there has been an unprecedented grievance, perhaps we could have an unprecedented response. That is, maybe they’ll finally start adding things with patches, despite how adamant they always are about not doing that. At the very least they could make us happier by updating the game to allow us to turn off the shared exp, or even give us a hard mode.

They said this was the game for veterans, so they might as well do what other companies do when they realize they didn’t understand what we wanted: patch the game until it’s up to snuff.

I mean, the new Pokemon are so cool, and I love the aesthetics that they actually did take their time with (like the main character designs). They should dedicate their time to making this thing an actual $60 value out of respect to their veteran fans, who have pretty much swallowed their general dissatisfaction for about six years now.

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