@Magician Oh I agree completely. The next two Directs will be the ones where Nintendo shows their hand. If we get mostly ports for 2024 with like Princess Peach as its only original title, then it's time for concern. But as it is, Nintendo isn't slowing down this year, and there isn't anything to support they're doing it next. Uncharted waters indeed.
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@ElRoberico "Concern" might be the wrong choice of word. More like...enthusiastic. As the resident penultimate-pessimist I assume a Switch 2 announcement in 2025 for release in early 2026. But if Nintendo show up in June with only ports of Twilight Princess / Wind Waker, ports of Metroid Prime 2 and/or 3, a release date for Luigi's Mansion 2, DLC for Tears of the Kingdom or whichever evergreen title, etc?
Well then, I'd say it would be time for casual-core gamers to stop buying Switch stuff and begin budgeting for their Switch successor purchases six to nine months later.
@IceClimbers Or like any company would do as they transition from one platform to their next.
Yes...thank you.
I have no doubt Switch will get EA FC 2025, 2026, 2027, etc.
Lol, Nintendo has never announced the next home console before cutting the price since at least the GameCube. The four stages are always:
1. Console released
2. Console gets its price dropped.
3. Next console announced.
4. Next console released.
We’re currently between 1 and 2. It will be a while before 3 and 4 happen.
So the Switch needs an upgrade because it’s sold less than two generations of Sony combined? That’s… interesting to say the least.
Since you seem to be arguing for Nintendo to skip a generation, then, yeah, that's a fair comparison. Although to be more fair, let's look only since the Switch was released. So these are sales in the exact same timeframe:
PS4: 96 million
PS5: 41 million
Switch:129 million
Note that 96 + 41 > 129. During the lifetime of Switch more people have payed for devices from PlayStation which were much more powerful than Switch than have bought Switch. And most of the best selling games on those PS4/5 consoles are ones which literally couldn't run on Switch because of hardware constraints.
No, I’m not saying the Switch needs to skip a generation. I’m saying that the Switch is a perfectly capable ninth generation console (still selling well, even though 120 million+ already own it) and that they don’t need to make a new console for a few years, if ever. It was released a couple years before the other ninth generation consoles so there was a bit of overlap with PS4 and xbone, but it beat both of those.
@Euler
Again, you didn't read ANY of my post. You had a conclusion and you just ran with it in spite of what I said
@TheJGG
I'd agree with this although again the Wii U is a clear example of a time when they let cost get away from them
I'd also note when I talk about their next piece of hardware I'm not suggesting they go to the bleeding edge. I'm suggesting they release something that is, relatively speaking, the same cost the Switch was on day 1. Which is naturally going to be significantly more capable
The graph part refutes the babbling part and shows that the Switch will still be Nintendo’s main console for years to come.
@GrailUK In terms of state of the art, the Nvidia leaks suggest that it will indeed be a very Nintendo way of doing that.
Namely, going for DLSS with dedicated tensor cores to get an effective similar to PS5 games. I suspect based on the specs we've seen the system will generally be either CPU locked or RAM locked, depending on how much RAM it gets, rather than struggling with the GPU. Of course it won't have SSDesque loading times, so who knows how that'll affect the ability to port games either. But I'd expect 60fps/4k 1st party titles to be a thing at least, which is definitely a step up. And relying on DLSS upscaling means the graphics work from their dev teams won't go up, since it won't be native.
@Euler
I am not arguing that the Switch isn't selling better than any other console they have had at this point in it's cycle, relatively speaking. But at this point in the cycle the Switch is the ONLY console not to have a successor other than GameBoy. And GameBoy at this point was slashing prices, putting out the cut price Pocket, soon releasing GBC and eventually being boosted by the once in gaming history phenomenon that was Pokemon
The Switch is ahead of other platforms Nintendo has had at this stage, nobody is saying otherwise. But it is NOT 2+ years ahead of the best performing platform. It's also incredibly unlikely that another Pokemon tier event is just around the bend and specific to Switch. If you had read my "babbling" rather than just looking at a graph and seeing a line that's just barely above DS you'd understand what my point was
But you don't because you have a conclusion and are working backwards. I'm more than happy to engage in discussion with people who disagree with me but I'm not really interested in wasting my time with someone who is having a one way conversation that happens to @ me
I'm now starting to lean towards the Direct being earlier on in September rather than later. Like I mentioned in the main Switch thread, the upcoming 1st party releases aren't at Gamescom (Teal Mask DLC, SMB Wonder, Detective Pikachu Returns, Super Mario RPG) but they aren't at Nintendo Live either which combined is really odd.
So something like a September 6th/7th general Direct would make more sense of that.
@Grumblevolcano To be honest, an early September Direct always made sense to me. Get as much news about the holiday lineup out there as early as possible not just for first party but also third party who usually have to wait for Nintendo to announce it before they can start advertising.
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Yeah I suppose it would make sense to do it around 6th/7th with Nintendo Live happening a few days prior.
I don't really mind either way, but I certainly wouldn't be complaining if it happened in that 1st week!
They’re not gonna announce switch 2 with more than a year to go. And certainly not before Xmas (why tell customers to not buy your product over Xmas when they know a new one is coming?).
The only way a Sept announcement will happen, is if it’s releasing xmas this year. Which is very doubtful.
As for a September direct, seems unlikely to me. They’re obviously ramping down game production right now to focus on new consoles launch games. That’s why they’re releasing a 2d Mario (easy/quick to make and fill xmas gap).
Maybe a direct specifically about Mario wonder and Mario rpg…. But I don’t expect a full on direct.. definitely expect a proper reveal of wonder though in September.
If Switch 2 is launching next year, then this is the last holiday period for them to go all out on Switch so anyone with any sense has that as their focus. I don't think it's a case of an announcement will disuade folk into buying a Switch this Christmas. After all, anyone buying a console in it's 7th year is hardly the same person going to buy a console on day one! Besides, there will be a lot of kids who asked for a Switch this Christmas after the Mario Movie. So I think it's just a case of what they are focusing on. All marketing on selling games during the most important period of the year. And as they say, games sell consoles. Who knows, we may be having the conversation of how exactly the Switch was the best selling console of 2023 (full disclosure, it will be close and I don't think the Switch can do it this year, but the humble console always surprises us!)
I would be surprised if Metroid Prime 4 is still missing in September. I would have thought that would be the Switch's swansong game. I'll be honest, if we don't get a trailer ending with '2024', then I'm actually going to start doubting about Switch 2 next year lol.
The much rumoured WW and TP could be next year's Zelda game (already done and wouldn't detract from next gen development.) But that could easily be announced in the first Direct of next year for a super quick launch.
It's the new stuff that we'll all be wondering about. I'm sure there will be plenty of third party stuff, but are the new AAA first party releases all focused on Switch 2 now? If we get a Mario Odyssey 2 trailer then we aren't done with Switch lol. (But then, I don't think we see that now after Charles Martinet stepping away. Next 3D Mario will be more an event bringing in the new console.)
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I would be shocked if a September Direct didn't happen. There's too much coming out to just not do anything. I think the Gamescom absence shows it might be earlier than later. but it's happening. This isn't the month to skip it unless you're holding your early 2024 game close to your chest.
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@Grumblevolcano Nintendo Live is just a fan focused event. It's not meant to be an exposition like E3 or Gamescom, so it featuring already released titles makes sense, and also why it has absolutely no bearing on when Nintendo does their next Direct (TGS on the other hand...).
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