Topic: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond

I think we'll end up with the Mario Odyssey approach. That while you can use the pro controller, the game is created with waggle controls in mind.

It's a shame really. The twin stick controls have become standard for a reason, they work the best for the FPS genre.

I think Prime 4 will have multiple control options, but I'll be surprised if a separated Joy-Con scheme is not the recommended way to play. Prime 4 would benefit greatly by being as close to Corruption's controls as possible for its recommended option.

@Knighty_IX The problem with touchscreen aiming is that, while it may be precise, your touching/stylus hand is too occupied for camera controls, making turning clunky.

@MarcelRguez The Brush family in Splatoon would like to have a word. If a face button was used for beams, that'd make gyro aiming a necessity with it being very awkward to shift a stick while pushing that button. And why have a specific button for dashing? It's always been the same as jump while strafing, just like Zelda.

@meleebrawler: Good point in reference to Echoes.

It's a raging inferno at this point.

Really breaking out all the stops for Metroid I see. So, what, can Nintendo just not make games anymore? They haven't developed a Metroid themselves in forever — even longer if you count Retro separately. From what I can find, Singapore has worked on (not developed on their own, but contributed to) an unnamed Ace Combat game, Tales of Berseria, Mario Sports: Superstars, and Riiiiiiiiidge Racer!

So naturally, a metroidvanian, explorative FPS puzzle-adventure.

This news just makes me wonder what Retro are working on again. When will we hear that

@MisterPi One rumour suggests a new horror IP, another suggests Nintendo Labo.

@Grumblevolcano oh geez, the absolute madness if they revealed Labo was what they spent 5 years on. I think I'd be more fascinated at the reaction than angry at it, lol

Yeah... no. Labo is more the Splatoon, Animal Crossing, or Wii [Insert Activity] teams' speed. I have to believe Nintendo aren't chronically cheap and Retro are making something singleplayer, although direct horror would be unprecedented for Nintendo — even if it makes sense with some of MP3's environments.

It's definitely not Labo. And the horror game is another ''rumour'' without a proper source as far as I know.

The only reliable rumour we have is from Liam Robertson, from a year or so ago. He talked about the relationship between Nintendo and Retro. How it's apparently the most expensive studio for Nintendo to keep up and running. How they are allowed to pitch three concepts to Nintendo, if they're all turned down, they get assigned to a game. It's how they came to make DKC: Returns. Tropical Freeze was their own idea, after the success of Returns. Anyway, that rumour said Nintendo green-lit one of their own concepts, and it was highly likely that they are currently working on a new IP.

Eeeeehhhm, excuse me, Nintendo Labo actually is a new IP. /s

The only reason I might think Retro developed Labo is that Nintendo is being very coy about who developed Labo. They may fear a backlash if it's revealed that that is what Retro has been working on.

@Haru17 Horror isn't as unprecedented as you make it out to be. They did publish Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem after all, and to a lesser extent Geist (such a mediocre game for an amazing concept... though it was resurrected in some ways with Super Mario Odyssey)

I'm not sure how to take the rumor of Bandai Namco working on Prime 4, but I can only hope that a lot of QA checking in about...well, EVERYTHING is going on. Granted, I'm still taking this with some salt until we know for 100% certainty. (Though there seems to be some credence to this rumor)

As for Retro....While I suspect it may be another DKC game of sorts, knowing their track record, it's bound to be a decent game.

@MarcelRguez The (rumoured) team behind Prime 4 didn't make those games though. That would be like saying Kirby is guaranteed to be a good platformer, because Nintendo also made Tropical Freeze. They kinda did, but HAL isn't Retro Studios.

A better comparison would be Star Wars 1313, since it's rumoured that some of the people behind that game are working on Prime 4.

I honestly feel like this Bandai Namco rumor is overselling Bandai Namco having any relevance to the actual game. I feel like this might be another situation where "YEP NINTENDO SURE DID HIRE GUYS TO HELP MAKE THEIR GAME" with zero interest in anyone in Bandai Namco having significant creative control over anything in the game.

I actually think Bandai Namco could do a great job on Metroid. Don't get me wrong Retro could do a good job but a new team full of new ideas with Nintendo providing a guiding hand well that gets me excited.

...You didn't get what he was saying at all, did you? Point is: Singapore didn't make any of the games you may like Bandai Namco for, they're a support studio at best. Even MercurySteam had lead development on AAA games before. Nintendo probably didn't want to invest and get someone good for a 3D Metroid like they've gone cheap on the majority of their 8th gen releases.