Yea, my in-game time was 8:30ish and I'm pretty sure it's actually over 10 hours in total. I didn't get every item though, or it would've taken longer.
@TheVoid If you have access to an EMMI zone that still has an active EMMI in it, you probably will progress from working through that zone and reaching the point where you have to take down the EMMI. If you've already terminated the EMMI then you probably want to travel to another map area.
You guys had me at blood and semen.
What better way to celebrate than firing something out of the pipe?
@NintendoByNature Thanks mate. Metroidvanias were never really my thing, but I just really wanted to play this for obvious reasons. I am getting there, but I will probably end up playing 10-15 hours while others finish it in 5-8
They don't hand out gold medals for beating Metroid Dread quick smart ... just enjoy the game, take your time, and you'll get there when you get there. Never understood people (not you) wanting to make it a race anyway ... especially when there's nothing at stake. The dick-swinging around completion times is pretty sad, to be honest.
Anyone else get into the rest of the series after enjoying (or in the lead up to) Metroid Dread?
I absolutely loved Dread having never really played a Metroid game before (I had given Prime and Super a go but never got more than an hour or so in).
Now I've decided to play the rest of the 2D games in story-line order, having now completed Zero Mission, and I'm currently mid-way through Samus Returns.
Zero Mission was enjoyable, but I could very much tell it was a remake of an NES game - feeling a lot more compact and limited in scope compared to Dread. I did enjoy it for what it was, although I found the backtracking to be a little tedious sometimes and often a little obtuse. Plus, save for a few tracks, I didn't really like the soundtrack - maybe it's the limitations of the GBA sound chip but most tracks felt annoying rather than atmospheric to me. A fun time but not one I think I'll come back to.
Samus Returns is more my cup of tea. Mercury Steam have really nailed Samus' controls in these last two games - though button mapping can be a bit fiddly, moving, shooting, and melee countering is just so satisfying. The controls alone probably make this far more enjoyable than Zero Mission for me, but I also really like the structure. Progressing sequentially through several areas with numerous metroids to defeat somehow feels like the best of both linear and nonlinear game design. Tedious backtracking is limited, but you also feel like you're left to your devices in any new area, and finding things by your own accord. I'm only maybe 40% through this game but I'm really enjoying it.
Dread remains my favourite - largely because of all the modern flair that comes with being a 2021 title (improved controls, visual and sound design, quality of life).
I think I'll take a break before playing Super and eventually Fusion. There's only so much Metroid a man can take! I do wonder how much modernity factors into my enjoyment of these games. Will I like these titles as much as Dread and Samus Returns? Or will they fall alongside Zero Mission in my mind as decently enjoyable, but not stand-out titles?
@Buizel Most of the modern conveniences you like from SR and Dread started in SR, things like melee countering and free aim were first introduced in that game. And no other Metroid has a mechanic like the Metroid hunting, the rest are typical Metroidvanias where you have to collect one upgrade to progress towards the next (with the exception of the original Metroid which is pretty much open exploration and you can collect just about whatever powerup you want, but that game is incredibly simplistic and doesn't feel at all like a Metroidvania, so I wouldn't bother with it, ZM is far superior). Super is typically beloved because it's rife with very easy sequence breaks, but beyond that, Super and Fusion have more in common with ZM than SR. The long gap in between ZM and SR allowed them to add a ton of QoL features in the formula that set the recent games apart from the older ones.
@Buizel I think so long as you're able to put yourself in a mindset of 'This is 1994', then you'll find Super Metroid is a standout. Probably best played with a SNES controller.
You guys had me at blood and semen.
What better way to celebrate than firing something out of the pipe?
I finally beat that jerk! That was infuriating, and I think I got a Billy Mitchell Run o' Luck where he mostly used the easier attacks. But I got it. And I never want to do it again.
So I've play through Dread four times and every time I play it I learn a little bit more about the sequence breaking and learn to appreciate it that much more. My best time so far is just under three hours. I can't remember the last time I experience such pure joy just playing a game. Now that we've had some time to let the experience digest where would people place it? If we're thinking just 2-D games this is probably going to go right under Super for me. Super or Prime are probably always going to be my favourites so I am more than a little biased.
@Balta666 Zero Mission is an incredible game but it just doesn't have the atmosphere to hook me like Super and Dread does. It's very addictive to do repeat runs and go for time and, prior to Dread, I'd say it had the best feel of any of the 2-D games.
@mr_somewhere I have to confess zero mission was the first metroidvania I ever finished and the one that hooked me into the genre (I have tried super before but at the time Samus movement felt odd and I got either Lost/dead and said... "Not for me") and was my number one until recently but now that I that I have finished every entry several times I have to assume super is a masterpiece.
For me metroidvania is about being lost but not about being chased and that is something only one game surpasses it imo and that game is hollow Knight (also it has the perfect length not too short and not too long either)
@Buizel Be warned; the controls in Super might throw you for a loop the first hour or so, especially when compared to modern games. Even the GBA games introduced streamlined controls to the series that Super is lacking... But once you get back in the groove you,ll be pulling off wall jumps and blasting away enemies like a pro. The overall world and tone of Super is unbeatable imo. Hope you enjoy when you get around to them!
Now that we've had some time to let the experience digest where would people place it?
Dread is between Other M and Super for me as my 4th favorite of the series. Eventually, Dread is likely going to overtake Super Metroid, especially as I get more familiar with the map and achieve better completion times. Multiple 100% runs also have the potential to put Dread over Super, which I've only done 100% for once.
Federation Force still is a decent margin above Dread. Metroid Dread has better movement, bosses and 100%, but Federation Force's sheer variety holds up really well against the game. Dread almost becomes one dimensional in this comparison.
Metroid Prime Hunters is leagues better than Metroid Dread. I mistakenly was over hyped after first beating Metroid: Samus Returns back in 2017, and compared Returns to Hunters for the top spot. It plummeted in my rankings on the second run and only is 7th because Returns did redeem itself on my third run through in anticipation for Dread's release. I didn't want to compare Dread much to Hunters after completion to avoid feeling that kind of disappointment again. If I were to give the nod to Dread in anything compared to Hunters, it would have to be the bosses. That said, my favorite boss battle in the series remains Slench 3 if just barely with the Raven Beak fight being very close behind.
At best, Metroid Dread will be a go-to Metroid game for the traditional formula experience either alongside Super or replacing Super.
Beat the game. Official clear time was 14.5 hours, at 80% completion. Probably spent 20 hours playing but my transfer to OLED and switching playing on the Lite some days messed up my system timer.
No joke, this game is absolutely amazing. That ending and final boss? EPIC! I can confidently state this game is the best game I've played all year, and maybe even last year too, save for perhaps Monster Hunter Rise. Definitely my favorite 2D Metroid of all time, by a wide margin, and despite clinging to Metroid Prime 2 as my favorite Metroid overall, I'm beginning to question that now. Idk if it beats Metroid Prime 2, but it's close. Very close. A different experience for sure, but what a flawless execution.
The only thing I think is keeping this game from being a 100% blowout as my GOAT is the fact the music wasn't quite as good as many past entries. It was good, just not as good, and didn't quite hit that legendary soundtrack status. But, by no means was it bad. Just... most of my faves of all time have soundtracks second to none- Monster Hunter World and Rise, DKC Tropical Freeze, Metroid Prime 2, etc. But that's like, the only negative thing I can really say about it. And it's not even negative. Music was 8/10, everything else was 10/10.
BTW, I beat the final boss on my 4th try. I was expecting some arduous 5 hour battle of frustration based on what some others had reported. Who was that guy who reviewed the game and said it took "6 hours" to beat the boss? My goodness. It wasn't that hard.
Granted, I'm an experienced Metroid player but still, I'm no speed runner or upper echelon player. Just an average Metroid fan who struggled like everyone else.
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It is no doubt impressive, but I feel this game deserves the #1 spot, maybe #2 just to account for the possibility there's some generational masterpiece I didn't play this year.
I don't trust critics with Nintendo games (or any games, really, but especially non Zelda/Mario Nintendo games) for accurate representation of quality beyond general ballpark.
To me, Metroid Dread is one of the best games I've ever played, and so is Monster Hunter Rise. Both of these games which released this year are among my top 10 of all time (haven't really sorted out where they fall in that top 10). Both are easy 10/10 games imo. Same thing happened with DKC Tropical Freeze. That game genuinely may be my all time favorite- at least top 3 best games I've ever played, with the fattest, juiciest 10/10 that could possibly be afforded. Absolute masterpiece of perfection. But it got "ok" and "decently good" scores. It's... ya. Games on Nintendo systems just aren't rated the same (unless it's Zelda... or 3D Mario)
In any case, it's a really, really great game. I've heard some say it's OK, some say it's really good and better than expected, and some say it's absolutely incredible. I think it's absolutely incredible and blows every 2D Metroid out of the water- yes, even Super Metroid, which to me, it's not even close- this game is waaaay better. No disrespect to Super, it's legendary, but I like this much, much more.
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