Topic: Metroid Dread

@BloodNinja @BlueMonk EMMIs are not meant to be parried in the first place. I take it not only you are not patient but also not a reader as pretty much anytime you die to EMMI the loading screen specifically tells you it parrying an EMMI should be considered act of desparation and is very hard to perform. I like how in one comment you write "I don't reserve patience for videogames" and then contradict yourself by praising (Souls|Blood)borne games which require a great deal of it due to act of repetition. Also maybe it's time to just acknowledge that "entertainment" means various things to various people. EMMIs are great and while each one of them killed me at least once, I don't think any of them took me more than 10 tries to figure out so it's hardly an obstruction.

Whew... finally beat Kraid. Just needed to slow down and take my time on the second phase instead of trying to beat it quickly.

@MrDinosaur even though it is not the first choice it is not like it is impossible to do it, on the 5th emmi I manage to get straight to the weapon while countering it 3 times in a row (even though I was never consistent in doing it)

Yeah, if you’re caught by an EMMI you have a Hail Mary last chance to get out of it. That’s not ideal, obviously.

I am curious to see how random - or lack there of - EMMI encounters are. If they have variation or randomness that could really make speed runs interesting. I don’t generally pay attention to such things but for Dread, exceptions are made.

After death and loading to a checkpoint, EMMI seemed consistent in some cases, more random in others.

The entire game was built around the concept of instilling dread in the player from an enemy they cannot defeat. It's not "padding" when it's the core crux of the game itself. You can like it, you can dislike it, but marginalizing it as a lazy effort to pad is just downright insulting to the devs.

There's no sense getting angry and frustrated that you can't parry something that's not meant to be parried except on a hail mary, one in a hundred tries chance. It's specifically designed to make it so you can't successfully do it. Probably included it because players like having a bit of skill based hope, however slim it may be. Basically, when you get caught, you're dead. That's it. Finito. You goofed. Work on your skill and try again. The parry is just a bone they threw to spice it up a bit on the off chance you may actually escape once in a blue moon. It's not a mechanic to rely on.

So ya, of course nobody's gonna nail the parry mechanic. You're not supposed to. It's why they change the timing, to specifically ensure you can't.

Butting your head against a brick wall that was never meant to be broken and getting frustrated you can't break through isn't the advised way to play a game.

But, there's people who call Mario crap because they fall in the first pit in the game and don't have the patience to learn how to play and develop their skill to not fall in the pit. Gaming, by its very nature, requires patience as you develop skill and learn how to play. If you don't have patience then video games is an extremely poor hobby choice, unless you just want to play something like Animal Crossing where you can't die (no, I take that back- even Animal Crossing requires patience, in fact, probably more than most games).

Anyways, I got my Switch OLED and holy moly, it's so good. Metroid looks and plays so good.

I’m too old and jaded to feel dread from a game the way I did when I was a kid, but Metroid Dread has a palpable atmosphere and as I reflect on it, I did dread those final EMMI sections.

This game just hit the spot for me. Right when I was pushed to the edge of frustration I’d crack it, and feel I had gotten better at the game. By the end, I didn’t want it to end.

I really do think it’s perfectly paced for what it is. But as far as atmosphere there was something about Feraria (I think that’s the name) that really felt eerie to me.

I managed two EMMI saves in a row. That was pure luck. Of course the EMMI had killed me at least half a dozen times before that.

@Mountain_Man I rushed the first 3 tries of Kraid too. Realizing after all you have to do is play the waiting game and shoot the balls and nails he projectiles to get more missiles and power. It actually wasn't too bad if you just take your time and stock up on those two items.

@tekoii Haven't played it since! Was a bit of a hectic week TBF!

@roy130390 First off, yikes. What a judgmental, childish reply. Second off, I'm explaining my initial impressions of the game. I gave it a go, didn't like it, and of course, all the fanboys have to jump down my throat with their lame accusations and half-arsed assessments of my character. Look in the mirror, instead of pointing fingers. Such brats that post on this site, I swear...

@MrDinosaur I tried Metroid Dread for nearly two hours, it didn't keep my attention. I don't like the game, and while your explanation of the system is good, the game is not for me. I'm not going to continue to hit my head against a game I don't like. Thanks for trying to explain, though.

That reminds me of a meme.

@Balta666 @Mountain_Man yeah, I actually had the same experience - one of the EMMIs I was able to consistently parry several times in the row pretty much every time. Not sure if that's intentional or a bug but yeah. But any other EMMI parry was just pure luck.

@BloodNinja You gave it a shot and didn't like it - that's only fair. No point in doing something you don't enjoy when you're trying to entertain yourself. So what are you gonna play instead?

Adam tells you that one of the EMMIs is easier to parry, so...yeah, it's intentional. lol

@BloodNinja

Are you aware of ironies? Your previous post with the "brat" and "fanboy name-calling was quite immature and mine didn't insult you at any point or do anything to be considered that. I'm not even a child and one of the most stupid things that you can do in an argument is to try to diminish someone by treating them as younger than them just because you don't have a smart, proper way to respond instead and your point doesn't have any weight. This is pretty much an example of what you do with other people's arguments and why people have problems with you despite of being a peaceful site for the most part. Honestly it would be worse for you if I was a child as you, as an adult, have shown way more immaturity.

Second, how am I judging you more than you have been judging anyone else? You call anyone that points out your contradictions fanboys and I'm saying that you seem to have something against the game since you've been obsessed with saying negative things about it even before it came out and fighting on many comments sections. There's nothing wrong with disliking the game and what was shown, but constantly doing that and being rude to people that discussed with you shows your bias against the game. Hey, at least I base my opinion on something unlike you. Your whole premise is "if you don't respect my constant bashing of the game and contradictory points you are a fanboy!" Don't say that others are judgemental or suggest them to "look at themselves in the mirror" when you can't even recognize that you do the same with much less reason to.

Also, just as you are free to criticize the game, people are free to criticize the quality of your arguments.

I usually don't reply as harshly, but you started it by suggesting that I'm a brat and calling me a fanboy. Please let's avoid name calling as well as saying stuff like "you are a troll" or "you are a fanboy".

There's a reason why you fight so many people on the site and it isn't just on this thread. Hint: it isn't because they are brats and usually, the common denominator is responsible. It isn't about you liking or disliking the game, at least from my part and from what I've seen it wasn't the problem that others had either. It's about your attitude and your insistence with bashing it without little to no reason to the point of saying that "it shouldn't require patience" which as many pointed out, it's a thing required in most games including many that you used as examples.

Anyway I'm gonna leave it at that or this thread will be off-topic. You do you and play what you want.

@Joeynator3000 Ah alright, must've missed that line

Yeah, she looks like some sort of locust queen at that point I think I was mostly surprised by that rather than loving it.

Sorry, I explained it poorly - I actually loved the subtle story in Super Metroid. Dread was the one I was a bit disappointed with as the ending.

Truthfully, I was wondering that too.

@DomGC you're right about the Lady part

I've been "dreading" (pun intended 😉) fighting the certain boss by the hieroglyphs and haven't yet attempted it again.

Got my Switch OLED yesterday and am in the process of redownloading 1TB card worth of games, and I hate playing while doing that because it slows (or even stops, if playing Tetris Effect) the download process.

But I love the anticipation that's been building for me thinking about this upcoming fight and how I'm going to approach it. Phase shifting is a great idea. And, perhaps the melee counter could be used strategically.

I just got to the "water" area in the game( forgot the name). That's where I turned it off last night. The game is truly amazing honestly and I can't wait to get back into it later tonight. It may be my favorite metroid experience thus far. As great as the gameplay was in samus returns this blows it out of the water.