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JaxonH

@Wavey84
I know a lot of enthusiasts will claim otherwise, but I can only speak from my personal experience here... I feel like 120 fps is over rated. Now, don't get me wrong. I played Monster Hunter Stories 2 at 120 fps on PC, with VRR, and it was as smooth as smooth gets. You can notice the difference. However, the difference wasn't much. It felt like an ever so slight improvement over 60. Not saying I didn't appreciate it. Of course I did. But the difference was small enough that, I don't really feel like I'm "missing out" playing a game at 60 instead. I really do feel like 4k 60 is the sweet spot. In the case of MH Stories 2, I was able to attain 4k and 120fps. But for many other games, it's too demanding. And I've found the jump to 4k is a better improvement than the jump to 120fps. And when using DLSS, the 4k looks just as good as native to my eyes (as long as it's balanced and not performance mode DLSS).

I hear alot of ppl rave about Wonderboy, but I couldn't get into it. Metroid Dread, on the other hand. I can hardly contain my excitement. That latest trailer was fire. It's been too long. I need some Metroid.

Question for ya. It's about headphones. So, I've been considering the Arctis Pro Wireless which comes with a DAC that can connect via Optical. Normally, you'd connect it directly to the PS or PC. But I want to use it for both PS and PC (I already have Arctis 9 Wireless for Switch) and thought maybe I could connect to the TV optical out, since I'm already doing audio pass through for eARC. But there's a USB cable that's also supposed to connect to the system for chat. Is such a setup possible? And if so, how should the USB be connected? Plugging USB into TV probably wouldn't work for chat on PC and PS5, and I'm not sure if audio can go out of both the Optical and HDMI via eARC at the same time.

Thoughts?

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Wavey84

@JaxonH
The main reason why I'm interested in 120fps is because it cuts down on or reduces motion Blur and doubles motion resolution. That extra smooth buttery 120fps motion & reduced 5ms of latency to me would be the icing on the cake. I almost hope that it ends up being a disappointment, only because 120fps will be scarce on PS5 for years to come Until the Pro is released, and most of the time when it is enabled you'll be compromising resolution and graphics. Dirt 5(i think it was) has to get rid of of the people in the bleachers for example, and the grass in fortnite(never played it and never will) is completely destroyed. Give me 4K+60fps with No motion Blur & and at least 1080 lines of motion resolution and i'm sure i'll be content.

As for wireless 2.4ghz headsets, solely based on Sound, i wouldn't consider anything including the Arcrtis Pro Wireless(which sound noticeably worse compared to the Penrose based on what i've read from people who have owned both) other than the, you guessed it, Audeze Penrose which is the best sounding 2.4ghz headset you can get. All hail planer magnetics. lol From experience, switching the default preset to 'Classical and Acoustic Space' from the Power up your Music section on Penrose's official website made all the difference and kicked the default preset to the curb. Fortunately for me, I had zero disconnects, popping or crackling when using Penrose on my Switch and PS4 Pro from the 2 weeks i had with them. Worked like a charm. My only real complaint is that they just weren't comfortable and drove me absolutely nuts after about 15 minutes and that's only because of the awful material they use on the Earpads, which not only feels awkward, but your ears will eventually get hot and sweaty in no time. Which is why it's recommended that you swap out the earpads for something like the WC earpads which are inexpensive and supposedly make them 10x more comfortable. They go from being super uncomfortable to feeling amazing after spending $40.

Also, i wish i would compared my DT770(250ohm) + Receiver to the Penrose's fairly. I forgot that my Receivers Bass had been increased/manipulated to +4 which is basically artificially increasing the DT770's bass, for the better imo. But you wont be able to do this with a HEL 2 DAC or most DACs i think in general. In the case of the HEL 2 which is supposed to be superb, the bass would be the equivalent(i'm assuming) to Bass '0'.

Blugh, i'm torn between buying the Penrose again....I could get them with the WC ear pads in about 2 weeks and save $120 compared to the DT770 set up....Where i would have to Buy a new DAC, USB Hub, 3 USB Cables(Switch, PS5 & TV/or streaming device), Cable Covers(to hide the wires), and then having to fork over almost $200 CAD to send my headphones out to get a Detachable Cable mod(My DT770's have an annoying 10 foot tethered coil cable) to Newyork, and then having to wait for them to arrive and then get sent back will take just under 2 months if I'm luky. Oh, and then i'd need to spend another $20 or so on a detachable 5 foot headphone cable. lol What a mess! Still, even with Bass knocked down to the default 0 on my receiver, the DT770's most likely will still have the edge. I remember them sounding a little more detailed, richer and alive.

As for that Artctis pro set up/configuration you're trying to figure out. Dont have a clue. I dont do Optical anymore. Just 2.4ghz USB if wireless. preferably it would be nice to have Multiple 2.4ghz dongles plugged in your Switch, PS5, TV/Streaming device etc to work with just the Penrose or whichever Wireless headset you have instead of having to get up and pull out and replug the dongle into whatever console you decide to use.

Sigh. Vhat to do'....A Wired DT770 + DAC set up or just cave and get the Penrose and call it a day. Hmm, i wonder if you can actually increase the bass just a little with the Penrose's EQ settings too. I really need to compare the two again but there's no way i'm making another return if i decide to pass on the Penrose. Ugh, and the waiting time alone....that HEL 2 DAC will take over a month to get here and just under 2 for the Headphone Mod, and i'll still be tethered to a wire Just for a bit of an advantage in sound, of maybe just a 'bit' is an understatement hehe.

And yes, Metroid Dread's Latest Trailer was fantastic.....aside from the Bootleg Generic enemy design(Not including Kraid). That metal falcon looking robot/humanoid thing at the beginning was a bit of a let down imo.

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Wavey84

JaxonH

@Wavey84
That's what I've been using. USB dongle for wireless. But the Arctis Pro has a frequency response of 10 Hz to 40 kHz versus the usual 20 Hz to 20 kHz, and the DAC can receive higher grade audio signals via optical. I would just use a USB-C dongle instead if it meant easy plugging in and out of various systems, but alas, there is no USB-C dongle version.

Arctis 9 Wireless is the most comfortable headset I've ever used, and the audio quality is mostly satisfactory, but the dongle for it isn't very convenient like the USB-C dongle of the Arctis 1. Arctis Pro has that same comfort and wider frequency range, and possibly a way to set up without changing dongles all the time.

I've been researching alternative headsets for some time but every one I've seen has a drawback. Beoplay Portals looked good but, Xbox only and no dongle/dac (I really prefer not relying on Bluetooth unless it's phone music)

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Turns out the Arctis 9 Wireless is the best solution after all, I think. USB dongle is corded, but after wrapping it up, it's easy to move between systems, even Switch. ChatMix works on PC and Switch, PS has built in ChatMix, and additional Bluetooth means mixing Discord from phone for Switch.

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NS: Metroid Dread, SMTV, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, MH Rise Sunbreak, Zelda BotW 2

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JaxonH

@Wavey84
I did some serious research on the Audeze Penrose. And the consensus seemed to be, unparalleled sound quality- nothing else compares. Unfortunately, they need custom ear cups as you mentioned (I watched the How To video), there’s cracking and popping for a significant number of users, a low hissing and horrible wireless range, mic issues, doesn’t work well mixing Bluetooth, planar drivers are fragile, among a few other problems as well.

And that just kills me. Because the sound quality is apparently beyond reproach for wireless headphones. And Arctis Pro, from what I’ve read, don’t sound that much better than the Arctis 9 Wireless which I already have. And, honestly I’m happy with them. They sound noticeably better than my Bose Earbuds or Arctis 1 Wireless. Noticeably better. But I think I’m just not going to get the sound quality I’m looking for without going wired. I still have the Arctis 9 wireless to fall back on, with full ChatMix, Bluetooth mixing with 2.4 GHz wireless, and provide solid mid tier sound with all the benefits of wireless.

But I’ve read going wired, the Sennheiser 38X actually top the Pennrose, and barring going full studio headphones that require a DAC/amp, they’re basically the ones to buy. They’re only 28 ohms so the DualSense controller can drive them just fine. Found a coupon code, SAVE21, that knocked the price down to $156 shipped, versus the $180 + tax on Amazon.

So I’m going to give them a try and see how they compare. My only concern is whether the DualSense Bluetooth it uses can send a high enough quality signal, but it sounds promising from everything I’ve read. So whenever they arrive, I’m gonna give them a spin, and I’ll be sure to report back. I’ll also plug into the PC directly to see if sound quality is noticeably different than plugging into DualSense.

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3DS: Metroid Samus Returns
Steam: Horizon Zero Dawn
PS5: Ghosts of Tsushima
MOST EXCITED FOR
NS: Metroid Dread, SMTV, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, MH Rise Sunbreak, Zelda BotW 2

Jesus is Lord.

Wavey84

@JaxonH
Incoming Sea of Text.
I never experienced any sort popping & Crackling(I'm probably one of the few), plus it's shorter wireless range doesn't really matter if you're sitting close to your TV anyways(in your case 6 feet) while gaming or watching a movie. Heck, at 10 feet i had no issues. I think a lot of the people that are complaining are using the 2.4ghz dongle on their PC Towers which i'm guessing has a higher chance of interference, hence the crackling, popping, possible connection issues and drop outs or their TV set ups are a complete octopus wired disorganized StarTreck command center. lol

If anything, based on the 2 weeks i had them, i experienced a few connection issues when shuffling from Aux, Bluetooth to Wireless(2.4ghz). No drop outs during in-game, just the rare occasion where the PS4 Pro wouldn't detect Wireless 2.4ghz mode. Basically just had to turn them off and then back on again to sync up as expected.

I never bothered with the Mic so i can't say nor have i tried the WC earpad replacement. The latter has to be done though. the Penrose's Earpads are awful. Everybody that tried my pair of Penrose's on said they felt pretty uncomfortable and that was only after 5 seconds compared to my Beyer DT770's which fit like a pillow. They didn't get to experience how sticky and hot your ears get with the Audeze's. But again, this can be corrected with the earpad mod.

You could always just get the Penrose and compare them to your Arctis 9 which you were saying is very close in sound quality to the Arctis pro's, play around with them for a week or so and return them if you're unsatisfied. I would personally skip the Arctis Pro altogether solely based on sound knowing that they're not in the same ball park as the Penrose, which BTW didn't sound quite as good as by DT770's. If the penrose didn't quite do it for me, than the Arctis Pro doesn't have a chance. You've got an amazing set up. the LG C1 OLEd which overall is the best OLED of 2021 and the Sennheiser Ambeo aka the holy grail of Soundbars. All you need now is an audiophile grade pair of headphones and you're golden.

3 tips i'd recommend for anybody picking up the Penrose. Replace the Stock earpads with the WC earpads(Around $50 CAD including shipping from Amazon), Ditch the default Audio preset and download 'Acoustic Sound and Space' from Penrose's official website and adjust EQ settings to your liking for bass increase and the like.

This DAC below is supposed to be amazing, and is the one i intend on picking up next month
If i decide to pass on the Penrose which most likely will be the case.

https://www.schiit.com/products/hel-2

The Beyer Dynamic Pro DT770(250ohm) closed back Headphones that I have are pretty fantastic even if the treble can be a bit harsh. Remember, you can't tinker with Bass or Treble with that DAC above. I've grown accustomed to using +4 for Bass on my older sony receiver and i wish i would knocked it down to 0 when i compared the DT770's to the Penrose. It just wasn't a fair comparison.

Sennheiser's HD660's are in a different league of awesomeness, but pretty expensive. I'd consider but i'm sticking with Closed back and my DT770 Pro's are pretty much King in that catergory. They don't really sound boxed in/closed back at all, almost nearly identicle to an open back minus the crazy amount of sound leaking that you get with open back. the DT770's are a must if you're worried about disturbing your roomie, GF or wife when having a late night gaming session.
https://en-ca.sennheiser.com/hd-660-s

Then there's the HD560s which look beautiful, if you want something more affordable. They seem to be priced similarly to the DT770 Pro's and are probably in the same ballpark...Although, i doubt they'll edge out the beyers 250ohms which is considered to be a bass monster.
https://en-ca.sennheiser.com/hd-560-s-audiophile-headphone-hi...

I really wanted to go wireless with the penrose and finally be rid of the wire, to match my Soundbar and Flat mounted 65" OLED, but i know deep down even if i crank down the Bass to 0 on my receiver(which will give me audio quality reminiscent to the Hel 2 DAC) with my DT770's to make the comparison more even with the Penrose, the DT770's will still come out on top.

It's just getting everything that you need for a Wired Headphone/DAC set up can be a bit of a pain unless you're content with having to change the USB cable from console to console.

Here's what i'm gonna need >
DAC(hiding this under my couch.lol), Powered USB Hub which i'll be hiding under my other couch hehe), in my case '3' 2.0 Male to male Type A USB Cables for Switch, PS4 Pro & TV & Cable Covers that stick to the bottom of walls/moldings to hide the wires. yay.

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Wavey84

JaxonH

@Wavey84
I really don't wanna deal with a DAC unless it can be connected to PC and PS5 at same time (Switch will continue using Arctis 9 wireless for the dual audio to mix Discord if needed).

Not sure how to set it up though. Buy a USB splitter which plugs into PS5 and PC, then a USB to Optical to run from splitter to DAC, then plug headphones into jack on DAC... that seems like a lot. I'm hoping I can skate by with just using Dualsense on PS5 and PC directly for PC.

If it sounds good, all is well. If it doesn't quite cut it, I may look into that DAC you posted

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Steam: Horizon Zero Dawn
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NS: Metroid Dread, SMTV, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, MH Rise Sunbreak, Zelda BotW 2

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JaxonH

QD-OLED from Samsung (TLC is also working on a similar product) could actually be the TVs of tomorrow, combining mini-LED and OLED in a hybrid fusion that captures the best aspects of both technologies

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/what-is-qd-oled-samsungs-next-...

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Steam: Horizon Zero Dawn
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NS: Metroid Dread, SMTV, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, MH Rise Sunbreak, Zelda BotW 2

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BrazillianCara

So I just came back from a 3-month long stay away from home, and I found out that my wireless headset (which I use to play the Switch docked) got some white mold on its pads. I already removed and cleaned them with vinegar, and left them to dry for a while. Will this be enough? And if so, what do I do about the smell?

BrazillianCara

CactusMan

@BrazillianCara Put the pads in a deep freezer. Also works with stinky shoes. Just use a large plastic sandwich bag and leave them in the freezer overnight.

Bamm!

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JaxonH

@BrazillianCara
Can usually buy replacement ear cups if needed. Depends on the headset of course, but you could Google search it if you're unsuccessful getting the smell out.

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JaxonH

@Wavey84
Went ahead and ordered that Schitt Hel 2. It's all in one, and what you said made me do some thinking. Why have a high end setup just to chinse out on the headphones. May as well go all in.

Had I known I was getting the DAC I may have looked at some other headphones before choosing but, I still think the 38X are a solid choice and have the benefit of working with Switch OLED in handheld mode.

Probably just gonna keep the DAC connected to the PS5, since I can run the 38X into the PC directly, and Switch actually outputs 5.1 surround for many games- it's the one console I prefer to use the soundbar for. PS5 3D audio doesn't work over HDMI and I can't get Dolby Atmos for Home Theater working properly on PC. Which is fine. I prefer Dolby Atmos for headphones as it blocks out the noise of the fans.

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NS: Metroid Dread, SMTV, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, MH Rise Sunbreak, Zelda BotW 2

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BrazillianCara

@CactusMan Thanks! But just to be sure, you suggest using the freezer to remove the smell, the fungus (complementing the vinegar), or both?

BrazillianCara

CactusMan

@BrazillianCara Both, Fungus and Bacteria die when you freeze them witch stops the smell.

Bamm!

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Wavey84

@JaxonH

Just wanted to mention, that i recently found out a trick that will make the Color on the C1 look far more natural, richer, warmer, vibrant & life like rather than the horrible Color 50(55 when gaming)+Auto color gamut(Without messing with the high green white balance setting) that these unreasonable stuck in their ways purists seem to recommend which essentially gives you dead, lifeless desaturated puke-green colors which i've never ever experienced prior to OLED with any of my CRT's and plasma. It's terrible stuff.

Now the color on my C1 looks every bit as good as my plasma and past CRT's and then some. It's like going from an OLED's WRGB to RGB and getting a big boost in color volume without the puke-green tint.

BTW, i dont think this trick can wortk with internal apps. Try it out on the PS4/PS5 & Switch.
Also, if you've changed anything in the white balance or Color fine tuning settings switch it back to default settings.

Click 'All Setttings'
And high lite 'Select Mode/Game Optimizer'
Then Press 1113111 on your remote
Under Colorimetry, switch from Auto to BT2020
Then go to Advanced Settings and reduce color to around 43-44 on PS4 Pro, with Auto color gamut

You might want to raise the color a bit with Switch to around 48-50. For some weird reason my PS4's color volume seems just a little higher than my Switch's. It's an amazing difference, and i dont how anybody can game on the C1 with the default 'Auto/Rec709' gamut and color set to 55(+Auto)
The end result as i mentioned above is a picture that's stripped of life smacked with a green cast. It's the exact same problem i had with my C9, but that TV never had the following trick available above. This trick as this youtuber put it, is like the equivalent of your TV finally coming out of the morgue. lol

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Wavey84

BrazillianCara

@CactusMan Thanks again! Hopefully 8 or so hours in the freezer was enough to do the trick.

BrazillianCara

JaxonH

@Wavey84
Right on. I'll be sure to try it out this weekend when I have time.

One thing though. I use Game Mode for Switch, PS5 and PC inputs. Whenever I've selected "Game Optimizer" it brings up the Game Mode menu at the bottom of the screen. I've never seen any Colorimitry options.

Ended up canceling the Schiit Hel 2. Read a ton of problems going on with them, unfortunately. Decided to settle on the Sound Blaster G6. Which was sold out virtually everywhere, except Amazon from a 3rd party seller for $190 + Tax. Found it on Amazon Japan for $147 shipped. Absolutely incredible that it can be obtained and shipped from around the world for $50 less.

Really like those 560S, but for now I'm gonna wait and see how the 38X perform. I can always send them back and order the 560S. My biggest concern isn't so much sound quality as it is comfort.

PLAYING
NS: Monkey Ball, Cruis'n Blast
3DS: Metroid Samus Returns
Steam: Horizon Zero Dawn
PS5: Ghosts of Tsushima
MOST EXCITED FOR
NS: Metroid Dread, SMTV, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, MH Rise Sunbreak, Zelda BotW 2

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JaxonH

@Wavey84
Seems I’m on a splurge taking your advice lol

Ordered the 560S. For $140 refurbished I couldn’t say no. I have to see how good they are. Also got a separate DAC for my PC, the Fiio EK10, as it doesn’t apply any EQ beside optional bass boost and will power 560S all day.

If they’re noticeably better or more comfy than 38X, I’ll return them. I was so close to ordering the 660S also and keeping the best pair, but… $400-500 is just too much when most reviews say the 560S comes close.

PLAYING
NS: Monkey Ball, Cruis'n Blast
3DS: Metroid Samus Returns
Steam: Horizon Zero Dawn
PS5: Ghosts of Tsushima
MOST EXCITED FOR
NS: Metroid Dread, SMTV, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, MH Rise Sunbreak, Zelda BotW 2

Jesus is Lord.

Wavey84

@JaxonH
On the purple Game Dashboard, To the bottom left side of 'Game Optimizer' it should say 'All Settings' Click on that. This will bring you to the regular Picture Settings.
At the top, Highlite where it says >

'Select Mode
Game Optimizer (User)'

Then punch in 1113111.
At the very top of the HDMI Signalling Overide Menu,
Under Colorimetry , switch Auto to 'BT2020'
Then go back to the Picture settings, then Advanced Settings, then Color and and reduce 'color depth' to around 43(or whatever looks good to you) on PS4 Pro, with color gamut to 'auto select'

Make sure that Color fine tuning and white balance controls are back to their original default settings.
yeesh, i still need to disable the ABL in the service menu and get a Meter to correct the black crush. These issues shouldn't even be preset, let alone cost more money to an already expensive TV.

Wavey84

Wavey84

@JaxonH
Those 560S's are tempting, i absolutely love the aesthetics and the fact it comes with a detachable cable but i don't like the idea of going with an Open-back due to sound leakage. I owned a pair of HD555s over a decade ago and they were excellent, but ultimately the Beyer Dynamic DT770 Pro(250)'s with Bass increase to +4 on my older Receiver at least to my ears had a bit of an edge. They sounded brighter/more exciting and had stronger bass, which felt more suitable for electronic music and the like where as the Senny's had a more balanced neutral profile.

I'm either down to keeping my DT770(250's) and getting a detachable cable mod, or the DT770(80) which i hear have punchier bass and are not as harsh with treble, paired with a DAC OR the Audeze Penrose, with that WC cooling Gel Ear Pad mod, while increasing the Bass just a little in the EQ Settings. There might be a bit of leeway before distortion and volume becomes lower, here's hoping!

As for the HD660's, i read recently that they have a narrow sound stage compared to senny's lower tier models. I'd probably just skip those and shoot for the HD598's if i were to go open back or test out the HD560S's and see how they stack up.

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Wavey84

JaxonH

@Wavey84
Got it! Thanks!

Here's a picture I snapped with my phone. What do you think? This is Horizon Zero Dawn on PC, with HDR, 4k, and the settings you just described.

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