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Joeynator3000

@JaxonH
HDMI Extractor won't work, also I heard the Wii U was easier to work with when it came to surround sound, oddly enough. But yeah this is why I'm hoping if a new version (er, well...an ACTUAL new version anyways, lol) of Switch happens, I really want them to get Dolby or something to make this much easier. Surround sound on Switch, yeah I can deal with without it, but I did enjoy it on my other sound bar that handled it better.

Even games like Okami sounded awesome. (that game mostly used surround sound for the music, I loved it) Monster Hunter GU was...alright, then again most of the action was in front of you so you never hear anything behind you too much.

Anyways yeah, still would be nice to have working and all that. I don't know why this newer model is giving me weird audio issues when Switch is in surround sound. >.<

My Monster Hunter Rise Gameplay
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Discord server: https://discord.gg/fGUnxcK
Keep it PG-13-ish.

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JaxonH

@Joeynator3000
Pretty sure Okami only uses rear speakers for the menu, while the rest of the game is stereo. Probably just sounded good because even stereo sounds good when upscale with a good surround system.

I dont think any Switch model, or future successor for that matter, will ever use Dolby. They just don't focus on that and never have. 5.1 PCM is best it gets. Wii U was the exact same way. It outputs 5.1 PCM.

And, it is working with my soundbar so it's definitely possible. What soundbar you have and how old is it?

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Joeynator3000

@JaxonH
No, it uses it for the music, go out in the field during the day. Also the save mirror's theme uses it. That's pretty much it, though. Still sounds nice.

Like I said I have Vizio sound bars, the older one actually handles surround sound a bit better than this new one. It's not that old.

My Monster Hunter Rise Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzirEG5duST1bEJi0-9kUORu5SRfvuTLr

Discord server: https://discord.gg/fGUnxcK
Keep it PG-13-ish.

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JaxonH

@Joeynator3000
The Vizeo Elevate?

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Joeynator3000

@JaxonH
It apparently doesn't have a name, just Vizio 5.1.2 sound bar with Atmos.
shrugs, lol

My Monster Hunter Rise Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzirEG5duST1bEJi0-9kUORu5SRfvuTLr

Discord server: https://discord.gg/fGUnxcK
Keep it PG-13-ish.

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Gerald

I just switched from a LED tv to an OLED tv, and although I am very happy with the new tv, I was totally shocked how bad Sega Ages Outrun looks with Scanlines, it is so bad, I have had to switch off this display option.
The Arcade Archives are not so bad, but the Sega Ages look awful

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JaxonH

@Gerald
Thats odd. I've never liked scan lines myself, but it shouldn't really be any better or worse than an LCD TV. All OLED does is provide better color and contrast. Might wanna tinker with the picture settings and see if you can't dial it in.

@Joeynator3000
Ah. Not the Elevate then. The Elevate is their flagship 5.1.4 Atmos soundbar. You must have the M-Series, which offers a 5.1.2 model and a more simple 5.1 model. Looks like a decent bar though. It seems thin enough to not block the TV, a problem I have because mine is so thick.

This one, right?

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Here's my Sennheiser Ambeo. It's a big boy. A lot bigger than it looks. Whopping 50" wide, nearly 7" deep and over 5" high. And the SVS SB-1000 Pro sub

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Wavey84

Holy crap, that Sennheiser Ambeo is $3299 CAD. That thing must be a monster! The next sound bar I upgrade to will be the Bose 700($999). I foolishly picked up an LG SN6Y, which sounds pretty good to my ears but once you take out the subwoofer it sounds like trash. Thought i could get away by just using it as a stand alone and without the Sub, not a chance! It sounds horribly flat without it and worse than my OLED's TV audio. Plus, knowing me I'll probably bite the bullet and get a 77" OLED in 1-2 years once 4K becomes more the norm with gaming and prices drop.

my 65" C1 to my eyes is looking just a little on the small size....But that's only because I've had a 60" plasma since 2013. MY OLED's screen is only 4.5" larger, not much of an upgrade, considering it's been 8 years since i purchased the plasma. Even if i'm losing more pixel density at 77" i can just increase the sharpness to compensate.

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Wavey84

Gerald

@JaxonH hello there. Yes, tried playing around with the settings, but just can’t the picture good. It’s only an Issue with the Ages games.
Picture is fine if Scanlines are switched off. But I do like the retro feel that you get from Scanlines.
No issues with Arcade Archives or Capcom. Both Sunset Riders and Final Fight look ok with Scanlines

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JaxonH

@Wavey84
Ya, I had the same sticker shock when I first read about it. Thought no way would I ever spend that much. But the more I researched, the more I realized it was the only one that ticked all the right boxes. And, I got it for $2249 after a 10% off coupon for new customers through Sennheiser. Still a lot, but felt like a good enough deal to bite as someone who doesn't really have the setup to do rear speakers. It needs room to work properly and bounce off the walls to simulate surround speakers, and my room isn't really the ideal setup for it, but it still sounds fantastic. I'm happy. And it has incredible bass down to 30 Hz on its own, but... I still wanted a sub for that serious punch. I like that it lets you hook up any subwoofer you want and automatically handles crossover at 80 Hz.

Anyways though... if your LG surround sounds bad without a sub, why not just leave the sub connected? Any particular reason you'd want to use it without the subwoofer?

Speaking of sharpness, I saw LG's "super resolution" in the TV settings. But I read it adds lag, like 80 ms. Good for Netflix, not so good for gaming. I remember using something like that on my old Hisense TV when Zelda BotW released, and it looked way better, but the processing lag was noticeable.

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Also, what is it about the Bose 700 that you like versus other soundbars? I watched a review on it, and it seems to be a great bar, but there's also the Sonos Arc, the Samsung HW-Q950-A at 11.1.4 and the Vizio Elevate in that price range. I think the Sonos Arc is like $1700 though after buying all the extras though. So more in line with Ambeo pricing.

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Joeynator3000

@JaxonH
This is the one I have...crappy page but, it's where I bought it, so...yeah. xD
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-5-1-2-channel-soundbar-wit...

Anyways yeah, my sound bar sits underneath my computer monitor, with my TV off to the side mounted on the wall. so, no worries about it blocking anything. xD

My Monster Hunter Rise Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzirEG5duST1bEJi0-9kUORu5SRfvuTLr

Discord server: https://discord.gg/fGUnxcK
Keep it PG-13-ish.

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JaxonH

@Joeynator3000
I was thinking about mounting my TV. Did you do it yourself or pay someone to do it for you? And how much was the kit?

Just seems like a pain to find the studs in the wall and move everything to do it.

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Joeynator3000

Someone else did it, I ain't strong enough to mess with that TV myself. xD

My Monster Hunter Rise Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzirEG5duST1bEJi0-9kUORu5SRfvuTLr

Discord server: https://discord.gg/fGUnxcK
Keep it PG-13-ish.

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JaxonH

And... got my subwoofer today. This thing can pound. Of course, I tuned it to blend in with the soundbar, not take center stage. But it sounds great. Gives some serious punch to the audio. Bullets hit harder and music bangs deeper. Sounds more like being in a real theater. Which, I guess is the whole point of home theater, huh.

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JaxonH

Bought the Dolby Access app from Windows store. It works great for headphones. Played Mass Effect Legendary and the sound is incredible.

But for Home Theater mode you have to connect the PC directly to the Ambeo, which would sacrifice VRR and 120fps. Since I prefer to use headphones for PC anyways as it blocks the noise from the fans, I'm OK with just using the Dolby Atmos for headphones when gaming on PC. And I don't bother with HDR for gaming since I'm not a fan of it- its great for TV and movies but not so much for games, which solves all the Windows 10 HDR issues as well.

But ya, I'm impressed with the Dolby Atmos for Headphones on Windows. I'm not sure which games have Atmos. But it sounds great in Mass Effect. A perfect alternative to home theater for PC, where headphones make more sense to use.

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Wavey84

@JaxonH
Subwoofer in an apartment is a no-go. I'm a pretty considerate person and I just wouldn't be able to enjoy myself if my neighbours were being affected by it, even by just a little. An All-in one sound bar is my best bet, like the BOSE 700 which also looks pretttty beautiful aesthetically speaking. Goes for $999 CAD. The Sonos Arc is another option, but i just prefer the look of the Bose.

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/bose-soundbar-700-smart-...

I keep contemplating weather I should go 77" in a couple of years when prices drop, but I keep reminding myself how much softer the picture will look by gaining another 12" even for native 4K Content. my previous 55" C9 OLED was like, tack-sharp...The 55" is after all the flagship size for 4K and now I know why. My 65" still looks very good, but not quite in the same ball park...POV native 4K tourist Vacation videos on YouTube and LG's 4K HDR demo reals looked a sharper on my 55". But again, you can always fiddle with the sharpness settings to compensate on larger TV's and whatever.

Yeah. I'll just go 77" when 8K becomes a thing. If you want the sharpest picture, best to go 55" for 4K while sitting close for certain content, but if you want a more immersive and grand experience than go 65" and flat mount that bad boy to the wall . It's like a Window. lol With tax I had to pay about $3300 CAD for my 65" C1, and that was after saving about $400.

I Wonder when 8k gaming will come to fruition. We all know good and well it will become near-standard when the PS6 arrives years and years down the line. But right now, their goal is to hit 4K+60. I've said it already and I'll say it again. Dream TV >

85" 8K OLED - (Flagship Size for 8K) Flat mounted to wall.
120fps for gaming
Advanced 3D Technology for gaming - (No Glasses, with Eye Tracking/Wide sweet spot)
Better OLED Tech with Zero motion blur and much Higher motion resolution
Thinner & Lighter Design to get an even flatter mount

Sigh. 3D is dead, outside of VR at least. I can't see it coming back unless Jame Cameron's Avatar 2's supposed revolutionary 3D technology explodes and people want it in their homes. NIntendo was on the right track with their no glasses eye tracking 3D tech...If only they could advance it even further and incorperate it inside future TV's. I can imagine streaming services like Netflix & Disney+ having Digital Selections of 3D movies. would be pretty rad.

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Wavey84

JaxonH

@Wavey84
I would love a massive wall mounted 8k TV (at least, once 8k becomes standard, which is a long ways off, and even though games may get there, it'll be a very long time before streaming will ever get there). Unfortunately I don't have the room. Could probably squeeze 65 but, I like the convenience of 55 and honestly it feels just right at 6 feet.

I probably wouldn't use a sub if neighbors were an issue either. I have heard of those things you can buy to put a sub on though that dampens the vibrations. Lots of reviews say neighbors stopped complaining after being used. Maybe paired with a small sub on reasonable levels nobody would hear anything.

I'm hoping I get 5 years from this OLED, and by the time it's run its course mini-LED will have matured to the point it can rival OLED without ghosting. Even now Samsung Neo QLED are really good. But I think in 5 years time they'll have a higher LED count more in a higher density LED array. Then again, if I can get 5 years out of OLED I may just stick with it.

That Bose is nice. I don't care what anyone says- I bought a pair of wired earbud headphones from Bose like 15 years ago for $100 (got em half price though), and to this day they're still working and sound great. Most comfy earbuds I've ever used and best low end bass while still sounding balanced.

You sound like money is of no concern though- have you thought about looking into the Ambeo? It doesn't need a sub and gets down to 30 Hz on its own, does full Dolby Atmos and honestly, it sounds incredible. It's not as sleek as the Bose, or as small, and it won't give you true surround with rears. But the performance is top notch, and the eARC is good.

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JaxonH

@Kirby_EU
Hm… it looks cool, but I’m not too familiar with Razer. I’ve always been a fan of the SteelSeries Arctis line of headsets myself.

Reason being, their Arctis 9 Wireless connects wirelessly to Switch via USB dongle, yet also offers Bluetooth for connecting to Discord on your phone, and it mixes the audio. It also works for PC, but I like the Arctis 1 Wireless for that. It has a super slim USB-C dongle that not only works for PC and PS5, it also works for Switch in handheld mode. Granted, it doesn’t also have Bluetooth to connect to your phone for mixing chat audio, but usually when playing online it’s at home, docked, and that’s what the Arctis 9 Wireless is for.

I’d like to get a nice pair of high end, audiophile grade wireless headphones for gaming. But all the high end ones are Bluetooth only as they’re made for music and passive media, or come corded. For gaming on Switch/PS5/PC, a dedicated low latency wireless dongle is a must. I suppose Arctis Pro is an option, but I’m not sure how much better it sounds.

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Found a rtings comparison between the two

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/compare/steelseries-a...

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Wavey84

@JaxonH
Without a doubt, i would of saved up the pennies and rolled with the Sennheiser Ambeo & Subwoofer if i owned or rented out a house. I hear that thing is an absolute beast. Buttt, if you're living in an apartment, condo, basement suite even or a townhouse, in most cases a subwoofer shouldn't even be a part of your vocabulary. lol Let alone, blasting the sound bar itself in most conditions.

I could always raise the Sub on top of one of those things you mentioned to reduce the vibrations, but even setting off small vibrations would still bother me, just knowing that i could be potentially pissing somebody else off. So in my case the best alternative would be the all-in one Bose 700(Which sounds better than the Sonos Arc), which i'll get when it eventually goes on sale. But I mainly use headphones anyways, so the quality of a sound bar doesn't matter too much in my case, because i'll hardly be able to take advantage of it.

I hear 'micro' LED is the one that could potentially surpass OLED, but right now i hear the pricing is astronomical. My only issue at this point with OLED is motion. Like i pointed out before, there's Blur, 300 lines of motion resolution and more noticeable judder for low frame rate content than plasma.

The out of the box black crush can be corrected ala' calibration or with a meter, the ABL can be disabled in the service menu, the WRGB Color can look very close to RGB by reducing the 'High' Green in the white balance settings and increasing color to 60+Auto color gamut when streaming and 65-70 for gaming helps remedy the not so strong default '50' color setting, which makes the colors look desaturated. The Black levels/contrast are amazing, 245nits SDR(plasma's were only 140nits on average...), white whites, and a picture that's cleaner/crisper compared to a plasma, then you've got 4k, HDR/DV, 120fps Support, under 10ms of latency, and under 5ms for 120hz. It's an amazing TV, and i'm so glad LG managed to cut motion blur in half with the C1 compared to the C9. The motion on that TV for me personally was pretty unbearable.

As for 8K. I'm way ahead of myself here... My dream TV wont come to fruition for several years because like you pointed out we are a ways off from 8K movies becoming a thing on Streaming services. 4K is still being dominated by 1080p for jeebs sake.

I'd still consider getting a 77" in a year or two. For Streaming movies/Series i would totally go 77" over 65" for 4K content, but i need to see first hand how 4K games look at that size. I'm fine with losing a bit more pixel density for movies and the like, but with gaming i want a crystal clear image. The LG C1 77" is currently on sale for $4499 CAD, which is pricey but it's peanuts compared to the bogusly priced 83", which is over $9000 for only 6 more inches....no thanks.

I still haven't played any native 4K titles yet, or experienced 120fps. The PS4 Pro seems like it's typically pushing 1440p -1600p -something at best. There's only a small handful of less demanding titles titles that can nearly hit 4K like Thumper, which i have zero interest in anyways. Once i get my PS5, i'm gonna test out DOOM Eternals 'Balanced mode' which offers native 4K + HDR, and it's 120fps performance mode. Plus Monster Boy in the cursed kingdom runs in 120fps on PS5.....Although, I'm mixed on that game. it looks beautiful and has one hell of a soundtrack, but doesn't seem to be reinventing the wheel or pushing the WonderBoy metroidvania Series further other then giving the visuals a major overhaul, along with a modernized soundtrack. Controls are just a little restrained, dated and cumbersome for my liking. I guess if you go in with a 16-bit generation mindset and are a fan of the earlier WonderBoy games you wont be disappointed. It's on sale for $19.99 which is kind of hard to pass up! I have it on Switch, but it doesn't look as sharp, and it's missing environmental effects in certain areas and looks as if the picture has been zoomed in a bit...

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