Topic: Does R.O.B. breaks smash number 1 rule?

@LucaAntinori So what? If the "rules" say games that have legit shaped the landscape of gaming and offer a huge chunk of Nintendo nostalgia aren't allowed but the rules do allow games that are flops and offer very little Nintendo history then the rules are stupid.

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@jump
You may think that the rules are stupid but the key word is "rules"
and (sadly) the rules must always be respected even if we disagree with them

@Snatcher
Believe it or not. This topic seems pretty stable even if at first glance it does not look like that. Most of the "extra details" were just put to the table to make examples

@jump Is it me or are they talking to us like we don't That R.O.B doesn't Break the so called Number one Rule?

@LucaAntinori Why must rules always be respected? If they aren't fit for purpose then they should be challenged or broken. BOTW worked because it broke the established rules of Zelda, the Switch broke the rules of what a console is etc

Things changes, move with the times ;p

@Snatcher
This topic is mostly debating. Here we discuss arguments and if we agree (or not) with them
This is not about who is right or not

@jump
True
But to be honest
It's not like they have done something new
Nintendo Switch is basically Neo Geo X taken to the extreme
And Breath of the wild is Zelda 1's idea fully realized
In other words, they rules really weren't broken at all.

@LucaAntinori Debating what? If He broke a rule or not? Then I think there is a right or wrong as Its ether, he broke the rule, or not, And I would say, and as a alot of people have said, Thats not the case.

@Snatcher
What i was trying to say is that this are mostly opinions and are not taken as facts

@LucaAntinori Well Then I think you Should change the Thread name, Bc Its not really about R.O.B anymore as more so a Debate if this character Can get in or not, and R.O.B is the template of sorts?

Yeah, they mansplained them after we already acknowledge the perceived rules and then said to always respect them when they were being questioned. Lol

@jump Thank you, Nice to know I'm not crazy LOL.

@jump
That was just my opinion
This topic wasn't about if the videogame only rule needed to exist
This topic was to debate if the rule was being followed at all since rob is a pretty interesting case of a smash fighter
I think the rule needs to be respected because since the start it was always sakurai and smash principles, but that's just my opinion

@LucaAntinori It was never broken so there you go.

@LucaAntinori Video games are about more than what shows on the screen. Even tracing back further, the Super Scope item is based on hardware as well. And Mr. Game & Watch is based on dedicated hardware, rather than an insertable game. Technically, he (or the characters he's based on) never existed as pixels on a screen either. But video games aren't just what shows up on the screen. As people have mentioned, toys to life games have real world components that affect the game you play. And as R.O.B.'s sole purpose was to affect the games on the screen, he is part of the game, just like physical cartridges, the boxy GameCube, or the power glove are all part of video game history despite existing in the real world.

And without R.O.B., Nintendo may have never succeeded. The inclusion of R.O.B. was mainly to get around the fact that stores wouldn't stock video games after the crash, so they were able to label it as a toy instead. His role in the NES' success makes him one of the most important characters in the game IMO.

I never though i would come back to this topic
but sora is in smash and there is no non videogame characters at all (only a small reference to mickey in a keychain)
that pretty much answers what smash number 1 rule is all about

Yeah, they made it a point to avoid adding pretty much anything that would reference Disney, they focused on Sora and the video game-original characters, places, and music only.

I suppose the little Mickey keychain comes off as being part of Sora’s design, not necessarily being directly Mickey Mouse.

@Eel, yeah, I imagine they weren't allowed to alter the Keyblade's design, so had to include the Mickey keychain (how it can be depicted seems to be highly restricted, seeing as how Kirby doesn't get his own, rather a vaguely key shaped mass of energy, whenever he copies Sora).

At the same time I'm sure they weren't allowed to use any of the other (non-Disney related) Keyblade designs (at least without also including the Kingdom Key), as Disney probably wanted some sort of representation if they were to agree to letting Sora in, even if Nintendo didn't want to include much Disney content (probably combined with Disney themselves probably being pretty difficult when it comes to characters like Donald & Goofy).