Topic: Nintendo Switch 2

This entire debate is one of the several reasons (along with potential music issues) that means Mother 3 will never be localized.

lol dude check yourself. Nobody here has said "censorship good" lol

We've actually been trying to talk this out rather than just boiling it down to "this or that." It's ok for people to realize that some words and actions that were once common are actually really harmful and hateful toward somebody different from them, and having a little empathy isn't a bad thing when you're literally not part of a group that the word targets. I'm not gay, for instance, so I have no idea what it's like to be gay and have certain words and actions directed towards me. And I can be a big boy and admit that.

That being said, like any of us should do if we want to actually have an intelligent discussion, I looked up what exactly it is we're talking about here with the Trails remake and, correct me if I'm wrong, it seems like they're using an overall different translation strategy, and people who seem to know the original game inside and out are saying it's closer to the original Japanese script in general. So, according to the peeps on Reddit who know their stuff about this game, that's one hole in your argument of this somehow deviating from the Japanese.

Some specific dialogue has been changed, though - I found the example on Reddit of the original saying stuff like "put on a skirt" and replacing it with "start acting like a girl."

So... my question to you, person who is whining: Is that really enough for you to say the game is "ruined"? Honest question. Please answer. And as you do, consider if your reaction is as dumb as the dev/publisher feeling like they need to change that line. Cuz to me, you both seem pretty dumb.

Honestly, that change is probably just better translation also; word-for-word translating a Japanese Idiom which isn't an English idiom was not good translation. The new translation isn't perfect either, but sometimes there is no perfect translation.

Edit: Apparently it was the Japanese text which was changed and the English translation simply followed. Although I suspect it's the same principle - an idiom which worked well in the past doesn't necessarily have the same connotation in the present.

Anyone else order that Genki portable battery?

I got it magnetized for overclocked Switch OLED and Switch 2.

It holds more firmly than my homemade Nitecore. The built in magnetic ring for the battery is super strong.

Notice I cut the ring where the hinge is on NSW1 OLED so the kickstand can unfold still.

Why would a game company stage access to play their game running poorly on switch 2 at a game convention? Like Star Wars Outlaws, Elden Ring. Even if recording isn't allowed, all it does is create negative buzz about the game before launch. I don't get it.

@WoomyNNYes
Honestly, that's a good question. Which I haven't been able to logically construct an answer for yet.

The only thing I can come up with is that they are confident. It will run well by release. And they think those playing it understand it will be better at release or even if they don't, reviews will inform them of that, and they just want to provide a general idea of what it's like on switch, disregarding, whatever issues it has now.

The other reason I was considering is that perhaps that's the best they can get it and they'd rather get the disappointment shock value out of the way now. So that even if it's somewhat better at release, people will perhaps we happy that it's not as bad? Idk

Huh. Star Wars Outlaws looks... decent in handheld mode??? Or am I just tripping. Obviously there will be some pop-in and by no means do any of us expect it to be perfection, but at least to me, it seems to be running at a perfectly playable frame rate and resolution.

I was hearing this game was a disaster, and it was just horrible and all this kind of stuff. And maybe it is. But then why does this look decent? Maybe people are a little too trigger, happy to declare switch 2 games a "disaster"

I'll be honest, hearing about how lacking the new Kirby content is for the price its at (which I didn't realize was gonna raise it to 80 bucks instead of 70), bums me out more than nearly any other Switch 2 news.

I feel the same way about Kirby Clash Deluxe having f2p monetization, this type of pointless greed needs to stay away from my precious pink child. : (

The fact that I might end up buying the first 3D Kirby game used just because the price is so silly is genuinely upsetting to me.

@WoomyNNYes @JaxonH
Or, and I'll just say it and catch my usual flak: some people are just super critical and the game runs just fine (talking about Elden Ring specifically because I haven't read/seen much about Outlaws).

I've seen people who've played hundreds of hours of Elden Ring on other systems say it looks awful (Kit and Krysta) and others who've said it looks "ok" (Brian Altano from IGN). Also read plenty of random Reddit posts from people like you and me who went to PAX or whatever, and again, some say it was horrible and unplayable, others had no issue with it.

And don't bother pointing out that it's most likely a months-old build; that makes the haters upset lol

Overall, nobody is saying it looks beautiful, which is of course not great, but the "unplayable" stuff seems.... maybe subjective? Guess we'll find out soonish.

@JaxonH
From what I can tell "disaster" is just code for "it targets 30fps and misses it". Which I would say is certainly not ideal but it was also pretty much standard on the Switch, and through the HD generation, and through the 90s

FWIW I think it's good that the performance bar games need to be clear has shifted. But still, worth noting what we're talking about here. On a related note, where's that VRR Dock update Nintendo?

@rallydefault Fair points. No flack.😉

I think some of it is that people just have different expectations. If you are lining up Switch 2 against PS5 or PC or just generally looking for where the grass is greener then games not hitting performance targets is going to be everything. If however the words you use to describe Switch 2 include "flexible", "good enough" or "portable" then you're going to be much more tolerant

Obviously where that line is depends on the person individual and some games will cross that line for some but not others. But it's a portable, it's not always going to hit the performance targets people set. That's just how it is

@skywake
Ya. If you want 60+ fps as much as possible and the highest resolution, and that's what you value more than anything. Then why would you even be talking about games on a hybrid system like Switch 2. You're never going to get what you want there.

If you want the most powerful car engine and top speed is your highest priority, then why on earth would you buy a 4 door luxury sedan that seats 5? And then complain it lacks a V8 hitting 0 - 60 in under 4 seconds? For that you buy a coup this specializes in acceleration and speed and doesn't focus on amenities and space.

Switch 2 is a middle ground. It gives you the best possible high end experience money can buy under the constraints of portability and versatility. It's okay if that's not someone's thing, but don't go complaining about it because that's what it's for. It's the reason it exists.

30fps is an obvious and smart trade off to get high end, realistic AAA games to run on this system with a stable frame rate. Not to mention there's a whole truckload of games running 30fps on PS5/XS but it only ever seems to be a problem when it's the hybrid system- the ONE platform where there's a legitimate REASON for it.

You know, I dont doubt Elden Ring really is struggling given th consistency of widespread reports, but, it's not like it's releasing next week. I don't want to hear it until the game is a few weeks from release, and even then, I would reserve judgment until the day one patch drops. That's just the world we live in. It sucks but that's what it is.

But with the clicks Elden Ring got it seems these sites said aha! Thats the ticket. Quick, find a game that doesn't have perfect performance and then write an article all doom and goom like. Enter Star Wars.

Only problem is, their report contradicted virtually everybody else's. And that's before the patch.

@kkslider5552000
I heard it’s really good but only about 3 hours to finish, maybe 5ish to complete.

I think for 20 bucks, unfortunately, that’s not too crazy in terms of cost/time ratio in a lot of games these days.

80 bucks overall is a TERRIBLE deal, though, if you’ve already played the game. That’s only for hardcore collectors.

It is nice that they gave the whole game the visual sprucing unlike Mario Party.

@Azileron
Yeah, judging game value based on time is a bit cooked. It's a combination of things. But also with gaming the value equation can swing wildly. I've had even free to play games I feel like ended up being a "poor value" given, you know, time is money in a sense. I've also had full retail games I paid full price for, beat in 5 hours or something, never touched again but felt good about the "value" of it

It depends

I'm still using the time value a bit since like... 3rd world income so what I spend should be fun for longer kind of thing, especially since I don't really replay games. Like, when spending 60 is like half the monthly income, it's like... not having it be 30 hours will feel bad?

Like I bought Astral Chain full price and that game is good but not 60 bucks for 10 hours gameplay good lol.

Astral Chain has way more than 10 hours worth of content, what are you on about?

@kkslider5552000 I finished the story in 10 hours, and I'm not looking for replaying things to get S-rank to be a content I'm into. I pretty much play to get the story (I did some side missions, but some of them are augh, like the ice cream one), and when it's done... I'm done with it.