@FishyS
Mm. The covid bump. Almost 30m units sold in a single year. That's not gonna be easy to reproduce. But with the first year on track for 22-23m compared with the 17m of the original NS1, it could negate any need to.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
@Anti-Matter
Everyone and their mother already knows about key cards. You add nothing of value to the conversation by pointing out what everyone already knows. The small minority of physical diehards who would rather not play a game than own it digitally aren't in this forum.
This thread is for people who actually own the system to provide insight about the experience to those considering a purchase, not for activists with picket signs who want to protest against digital media being stored on a plastic SD card instead of a plastic proprietary cartridge.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
@JaxonH Game key cards dont matter to me. People are just trying to make a big deal out of it. Digital purchase ate just as much yours once your purchase them as a physical copy. Its not like Nintendo is going to come and wipe your console of a digital game you bought when they stop selling it. And anyway if they did you just download it again. Not that big of a deal. Me personally 80% of my games are Digital now during this gen.
RetiredPush Square Moderator and all around retro gamer.
I’m ready for the game key card discourse to go away…almost everything is digital only today. I’m also 80%+ digital only…and I love the ability to switch games without the fuss…but that’s just me. At least the Switch has physical options. If the system has games that you want, I struggle to find a reason why you wouldn’t want it, regardless of the methods to play.
@Anti-Matter
Everyone and their mother already knows about key cards. You add nothing of value to the conversation by pointing out what everyone already knows. The small minority of physical diehards who would rather not play a game than own it digitally aren't in this forum.
This thread is for people who actually own the system to provide insight about the experience to those considering a purchase, not for activists with picket signs who want to protest against digital media being stored on a plastic SD card instead of a plastic proprietary cartridge.
All opinions are important both Switch 2 owners and Switch 1 owners who are thinking about upgrading but giving reasons not to. Trying to insult people or belittle the opinions of those you disagree with is surely a sign of a fanboy and if anyone should be ignored it should be those. We need rational fair opinions based on evidence and facts. There has always been people that want to validate their purchase too. I strongly believe the Switch 2 is not worth buying yet especially at current pricing in Europe and this based on a weak hardware platform for its price point and a lot of disappointing games so far with games like Mario Kart World and Metroid 4 being good rather than great but also priced very highly plus a lot of dismal conversions like Tomb Raider, Skyrim etc. However there have been a lot of Switch 2 owners who have stated disappointment too. You cannot just rely on positive opinions of Switch 2. Like this review of the Switch 2 console on Amazon. To many Skyrim is an unplayable and unacceptable product on Switch 2.
Anyhow, tend to agree. Opinions are opinions for a reason. People spend their money how they want, and many will find the purchase not worth it, especially these days.
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@BonzoBanana
Again, you're speaking about these games like you've actually spent time with them. You haven't. You don't even own a Switch 2. It's incredibly misleading for people who may read these posts to gather hands-on opinions. @Anti-Matter is the same: he just likes to pop in from time to time to rile people up. He doesn't own a Switch 2 and has zero plans to get one, so he's just gonna do his best to be negative. He doesn't deserve defending.
@BonzoBanana
Again, you're speaking about these games like you've actually spent time with them. You haven't. You don't even own a Switch 2. It's incredibly misleading for people who may read these posts to gather hands-on opinions. @Anti-Matter is the same: he just likes to pop in from time to time to rile people up. He doesn't own a Switch 2 and has zero plans to get one, so he's just gonna do his best to be negative. He doesn't deserve defending.
I'm giving my viewpoints why I haven't upgraded and that opinion is formed by all the professional reviews I've read. To completely invalidate all those reviews as if your sole opinion is more important than all those professional reviewers is clearly utterly ridiculous. When I have stated other issues like performance and poor functionality of the Switch 2 that is factual. I always try to be fair and give all the reasons for my opinions. You don't need to play a game with 300ms of input lag to know that is an awful gaming experience. I find 90ms of input lag less than ideal.
@rallydefault
Wouldn't matter if they did. People who cement their opinions beforehand are completely inelastic as a result. Even if they did play, they'd just scour the game for anything to criticize and completely ignore the fun, because justifying pre-existing beliefs takes priority over enjoying something with an open mind.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
To play devil's advocate: it is possible to have a reasonable opinion about a game you haven't played. After all, the alternative would be to suggest that the only way to know whether a game would be a waste of your money, is to first waste your money. "You didn't play it, why should we listen to you" is a valid response only to actual bad faith actors ( where there are plenty of more specific reasons to distrust and discount their words ), it doesn't actually work as a valid counterargument to a specific factual or logical claim. Is someone says Other M is bad because of the Hell Run, the fact that they haven't played it does not make the Hell Run cease to exist.
However, for that opinion to be worth respecting, it must be both accurate ( based on factual information about the game acquired with due diligence proportional to how certain you wish your opinion to be ), and clearly declared ( no directly or indirectly claiming to have more first hand knowledge than you actually do ). One should have a little caution in judging a thing they haven't played, precisely because you never can know things as thoroughly or as certainly as if you did play it. Sloppy fact-finding before deciding upon an opinion is bad, and deliberate concealment is much worse.
@metaphysician
To counter: simply because it sucks having to waste your money to find out you don’t enjoy a game doesn’t mean you don’t need to play a game before having a worthwhile opinion of it.
If it’s a genre or something you pretty much never enjoy then ok, whatever, you already know you’re not gonna buy it, but even then, if you don’t play it you can’t really speak to its quality. I don’t buy Madden games because I don’t like Madden games, but that doesn’t mean a particular Madden game isn’t good.
As a kid in the 80s and 90s, we just rented games and/or wasted our parents’ money to find out whether we liked a game or not lol
We all make opinions about whether we might like a game before we play it; it's part of how we decide whether to buy a particular game. However that opinion is generally/ideally based on:
1) personal preferences and personal history with similar games.
2) trustworthy second-hand information — watching game footage or reading reviews from people who played the game and are either people you know personally or are people known to be good at reviewing games such as (many) game journalists.
What is far less useful is third hand information — e.g. reading a 'meta' review based on someone else's opinion of what other reviewers wrote in other reviews; that's kind of like looking at metacritic scores but even less helpful since it is filtered through one person's personal biases.
I read about all types of games that I have never played, and probably will never play as long as they are not available on a Nintendo system. I might have an idea that a game is good or bad, based on my preferences and reviews that I read, but I wouldn't pretend to know about a game that I haven't played. Case-in-point - I read a lot about Undertale. Everything that I read about it screamed that it would be a game that I would adore. It really checks about every box that I am looking for in a game - it's unique, cool art style, funny, choices matter, a fun take on the RPG genre...the list could go on. Before playing, I would have probably claimed that it was one of the best RPGs in years and an excellent game.
Well, I own the game now - bought it a few years ago. I have tried, many many times to get into it. And I just can't. I end up dropping the game after a few hours, I just really do not like it. And it makes me so sad that it's not jiving with me... but it is not my game. Hopefully some day it clicks for me, because I would love to play it all the way through, and also get into Deltarune. I had a similar experience with Cave Story and Spelunky - 2 other highly regarded games that seemed perfect for me...and I just don't like them despite really trying to.
Why bring this up? Because sure, we can make opinions on games that we haven't played - but the personal experience matters. We can also become jaded by reading constant negativity (or positivity) about a game, even when playing it. Unless we actually experience the game ourselves, we are just sharing other's experiences...almost like an AI recapping a game based on what others have said.
With Metroid Prime 4 - I would have been pretty down on the game based on opinions I read and listened to. But having played it (at the end, almost beat it) - I can confidently say that it's in my top 5 2025 games. The things others have said that they don't like - I actually enjoy in the game. And there are so many other things about the game that I haven't read in people's reviews that I really love. The game is pretty linear in each region (that would be a huge negative for me - I love the complex interconnected levels and secrets) - the secrets are pretty basic...but none of that matters when the game comes together in such an incredible package (incredible to me, I understand if others do not like it).
I believe in researching games that you want to buy, read reviews, make decisions based on what you think you will like. But be careful making comments about things that you haven't experienced - or make it clear that you haven't actually played a game when giving an opinion, because I believe that personal experience matters a lot more than anything else.
Still waiting for an NSO Wii Remote Plus, Wireless Nunchuck(Both housing HD Rumble 2) and a wired USB Sensor Bar(Reference) to be used outside the NSO Wii service and to be made comaptible for titles like Metroid Prime 4: Beyond, Super Mario Galaxy 1+2, a future Pikmin 3 Port(Also running at 60fps + 1080p), LOZ: Zelda Skyward Sword HD, future Light gun titles, or stuff like Sin & Punishemnt: SS etc.
If not, I want Joy-Con 2 'Pro' controllers, with the same premium smooth gliding analog sticks, larger quality sized buttons(including shoulder) & comfort found with the Pro 2 Controller, including the right stick being placed diagonal to the B,A,X,Y buttons instead of being placed directly beneath them. Again, to replace the Wii remote & Nunchuck.
Other than that, I've got little to complain about. NS2 truly feels like a NextGen 'sequel' to NS1. And I'm fine with that this time around. PS4 Pro+ power(docked), Up to 4K, 120fps, HDR, HD Rumble 2, A Better Pro Controller, NS2 Editions & Updates, & Dual-Gyro-HD Rumble 2-Mouses...As long as you have quality mouse grip slot shells, even though they'll still never feel as ergonomic as an actual mouse with the JCN2's pointy slim pertruding shoulder buttons. Plus, i couldn't care less about having access to the buttons or stick that are planted on the side in mouse mode. Doesn't get any more awkward than that. All that matters are the top two buttons, and a 3rd placed on the left if it were actually comfortable to use.
All that's missing, aside from an A-tier Wii Remote plus & Nunchuck alternative/replacement, if you're a VR-goober head like me, is an optional Steam Frame-like VR headset using a 6GHZ wireless dongle connected to NS2, but with zero no stand alone tech-junk inside of it. Which would make it less expensive, and possibly smaller and Lighter. AS an optional side accessory, for those that want to play certain titles in VR be it Metroid Prime 4, Pokemon Snap!, or even '3rd' person VR modes for Kirby Air Riders, DK Bananza and the like.
I'm just repeating myself, but it would transform NS2 into a super hybrid > TV, Handheld, Table Top, VR & MR. Nobody has the right to complain because we get to play whatever said game the way we want to.
I also will say that playing a game sometimes make things made sense when from outside they seem... disparate? Like even on games where you can just watch the whole playthrough and everything, because when you are playing... it's just different.
Like for example (maybe this is a bad example), but like, watching Pokemon ZA didn't really look fun to me, but playing it was superb personally. Moving around, commanding the pokemon and so on. It feels harder than it looks... XD overall, you can only talk about impressions when watching and looking. Only after you play can you really cement your feelings one way or another
@Lazz
Yea, it’s pretty simple: you just gotta play a game if you’re really gonna know what it’s like.
Kind of in the same vein as what you said: I recently took a chance on Grand Bazaar even though it looked a little lackluster, and boom: I loved the heck out of it and did like 50 hours lol
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