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kkslider5552000

It is pathetic that you could easily buy a CD, an actual CD, in 2026 of various popular artists but you won't be able to buy a Kingdom Hearts 4 disc by the time it releases.

Like CDs. CDs, worth keeping around despite probably no longer even being the most popular physical media for music. PS5 game discs, COMPLETELY ILLOGICAL, apparently. Just the dumbest idea I can imagine. I'm angry at greed, I'm angrier at incompetent greed like this.

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Matt_Barber

metaphysician wrote:

rallydefault wrote:

@Matt_Barber
I think they meant the "other side" in their comment as the people who were initially commenting in favor of Sony's announcement and the general idea of an all-digital future. (Although most of those people have suspiciously stopped commenting lol)

It is bizarre that any consumer would be in favor of the elimination of competition and options.

This. There is no justifiable reason to advocate that only digital games should exist. No, "Only the thing I want should actually get resources" is not a justifiable reason- its spite.

Cast your mind back to when Google Stadia got shut down or Microsoft raised the price of Game Pass, and I don't recall much but schadenfreude coming from the advocates of physical media at the time. Maybe not you personally but I don't think you can claim pureness of heart for everyone on this.

Still, my point is that the opinions of people on internet forums with no skin in the game don't really matter.

This is a very much a straight fight with Sony, at least for now,

[Edited by Matt_Barber]

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rallydefault

@Matt_Barber
That is a strangely specific and combative assertion lol Were you a Stadia Stan or something?

For my part, I'm not claiming any "pureness of heart" lol far from it, but thank you for introducing that whimsical phrase to the discussion.

For my part, my heart has always been against digital-only stuff: horse armor is the worst thing that ever happened to gaming.

Actually, scratch that - the "gamers" who bought horse armor are the worst thing that ever happened to gaming lol

... did you buy horse armor, @Matt_Barber ?

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kkslider5552000

I'll actually be fair and say there's a point about being pointlessly cruel to people who got ripped off by Stadia. And certainly there are few things I hate more than "when the most annoying person is making your argument look bad by agreeing with you". That's true in all places.

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metaphysician

Stadia was a bad thing that needed to die. . . and it dying had zero impact on the availability of digital copies of games. Seeing as it wasn't one in the first place, and digital games remained just as available afterwards. And frankly, a little schadenfreude was warranted towards people who were "shocked, shocked" at it ceasing to be available. . . seeing as plenty of people warned them that this was why it was a bad thing in the first place. When a person is told not to touch a hot stove, insists on touching it anyway, and gets burned? Yes, that is going to result in people not having much sympathy. "Next time listen when we tell you not to touch the hot stove!"

Once again, please stop engaging in bad faith analogies.

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kkslider5552000

@rallydefault I vaguely remember it happening, but even if it didn't, I know the internet enough to say it would be completely expected if it did happen.

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Matt_Barber

@kkslider5552000 Just read what @metaphysician wrote above, I guess.

It's not like Stadia was the death of streaming either. If anything, it walked so others, like GeForce Now and XBox Cloud Gaming, could run and they've both gone on to gain tens of millions of subscribers. Dare I say it, but in an era of rapidly rising console prices, there's something to be said for a service that'll give you a comparable experience with just a TV and a controller. Anyway, it's an option and more options are good, right?

So far as concrete action to save physical media goes, there's a campaign afoot for people to cancel their PS Plus subscriptions and hit Sony's bottom line where it hurts. You can then further rub it in by spending the money on physical media for a competing platform instead. I don't know whether it'll achieve much, but it beats arguing on internet forums.

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rallydefault

Yea, it's gonna take time. Honestly, the time from now until the PS6 launches, in my opinion, which can be about 2 years.

If they have multiple Black Fridays, holiday seasons, major releases, etc. that come in well below expectations, then maybe they will think about things.

But until then, I don't expect much more than a "We know this is upsetting" social media post in the near future.

Which takes us back to: human beings are notoriously difficult to keep focused. So even though people are cancelling their subs now and saying they will buy on other consoles, I see that lasting for like... a couple months lol And that's probably what Sony is thinking.

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WaveBoy

@FishyS
I'm just happy that Link's Awakening now runs at a mostly locked 60fps, and they've bumped the resolution up to 1440p or so for NS2, as with EOW. On NS1, LA has frame rate hiccups up the ying yang, and it's quite jarring after being so accustomed to the original LA/LA DX for GameBoy/GBC.

Problem is, I've already beaten Link's Awakening DX on the 3DS's Virtual Console back in around 2011. Loved it, but in terms of top down Zelda, not nearly as much as ALTTP in 92' or even Phantom Hour Glass for DS, i know, I'm crazy. lol), but my enthusiasm to get through the LA remake just isn't quite there simply because it's Zelda.

I love me some puzzle adventure action, but I really have to be in the mood for Zelda in particular. I wish Nintendo would remake StarTropics. And dare I say, it even trounces the original NES LOZ? ST is amazing, with the exception of the final stage which abandons the games puzzle based formula and goes for full on action. ST escaped me growing up for whatever reason back in 1990. I didn't get around to it until it dropped on the Wii's Virtual Console in 2010. Played it on my big 2006 32" FullScreen Sony WEGA CRT, so i was essentially getting a much more authentic NES experience.

And even though BOTW isn't really my jam, I just can't pass up on the NS2 Upgrade(60fps, 1440p, HDR & 9-Axis Gyro aiming). It feels like some fantastical LOTR-esque camping adventure rather, topped with Shrine themes that sound remisiscent of some of the music from Jim Henson's The Labyrinth. Wish i could bounce back to 38 when i finally jumped in and gave it a proper shot. I absolutely loved it during my two 3 hour play sessions, but wildly enough I never went back to it. Not until 2-3 years later. My patience for it at that point was boarderline dead. lol There was too much of a disconnect or gap. I should of stuck with it when it had me.

[Edited by WaveBoy]

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