Topic: Unpopular Gaming Opinions

@Themagusx1 I Agree, The Game Is Fine

@OreoTheSprigatito you agree or disagree?

Here's one. The original nes gamepad is one of my absolute favorite controllers.

@Themagusx1 I Agree, I Don't Why I Put That On My Original Post

@OreoTheSprigatito Gotcha. Yeah I think Battletoads is badly designed to be honest.

There's A Copy Of Yoshi Topsy Turvy At My Local Game Store, Should I Pick It Up?

I disagree if taken with this game selection as is, but this does in fact sum up the average quality of NES games vs. the vast majority, which are mid at best.

Honestly, I'm really glad we're past the point where 8-bit NES nostalgia is so frequent. I dunno if its just because its been done to death to the point that even most indie games don't rely on it anymore, or if we're all just sick of 80s nostalgia, which has dominated longer than the 80s itself existed. There was plenty to it, but there's so much other retro game nostalgia that's worth people's time that when it always coming back to NES and 8-bit over anything else it felt kind of obnoxious by the time the NES Classic came out. Honestly I think maybe NSO was the turning point, when everyone realized they now had to pay for online and all they were getting were some NES games (at first).

I partially agree but feel the reason is kind of the opposite. Most people pay a little bit for online access, cloud backup, etc. and get close to 100 NES games thrown in. Whenever you have nes nostalgia, just play one of those 100 games.. you don't really need more very often because that urge has been satisfied. That said, new 8-bit nostalgia games are still relatively common in the thousands of eShop games constantly pumped out, as are 16-bit nostalgia games and even (shudder) ugly-polygon-early-3D nostalgia. When there are 10,000 games on Switch, it's pretty easy to notice or ignore whatever style you want.

Neither botw or totk are good games for me.
I prefer Yonder the Cloud Catcher Chronicles over than those two Zelda games.

I think NSO is a good service.

Why? Well in the $20/year tier alone, you get

• Tetris 99
  Kirby Clash
  Random free collectibles in ACNH/Smash
  NES Game Catalogue
  SNES Game Catalogue
  GB/GBC Game Catalogue
  PAC-MAN 99
  (formerly) Super Mario Bros. 35 (BRING THIS BACK NINTENDO!)
  Online Multiplayer
  Cloud Saves
  Game Trials
  Customizable User Icons
  Practically Free Platinum Points to spend on ^^^ or myNintendo physical merch
  and probably a few more things I’m forgetting
  And that’s just the $20 tier, for $1.67/month.

Compare that to the $80 PS Plus Essential tier, you get:

• 2-3 shovelware or OK games per month (I will admit you sometimes get a banger like Dreams but still, it’s rare)
• Cloud Saves
• Exclusive Sales (which usually aren’t discounted all too significant + don’t happen often for AAA games)
• Online
• SharePlay

See the difference?

The most common complaint I see about NSO is “the online is bad” which is a fine complaint on paper but there are multiple factors to this
1. Have you only played 1 or 2 games? It could be just an issue with that game.
2. Maybe your internet isn’t that good?
I have average internet and I experience relatively good online 90% of the time, around the same success rate I have with PS Plus, so I think it really just comes down to your Wi-Fi itself.

Overall I can understand and respect if you don’t like NSO, but I personally think it’s really solid

@DiamondCore
I subscribed NSO for $20 just only to use Online Play feature and Cloud Saves.
I don't even care with Retro NES, SNES, SEGA, Gameboy games that basically rental service for 1 year.
I have to renew my NSO subscription before 28 September 2023 but Dang...
I still have to buy some PS5 and Switch games for October 2023.

@DiamondCore Sure is better then the ***t Sony is pulling right now.

I'm really sorry have to say this but...
I have no longer interest to watch Nintendo Direct as I can read the pattern of the games released so I can always watch the separated trailers to check which games I only have interest about without watching a whole Direct that filled with a lot of games I have no interest about.

Your list is less impressive when it includes Mario 35 which is gone and PACMAN 99 which is leaving in a month. 🤪

That said, I subscribed to NSO for online play and cloud saves so the rest is just nice. Realistically, if they had sold retro collections and Tetris 99 separately instead of including on NSO I probably would have bought Tetris 99 for $40 and 4 retro nes/snes/GB collections for $20 each, so that's the price of 6 years of NSO there. Plus they used to have the first year of NSO free with some online games.

One big thing you are missing from the list - vouchers. This year, there were so many good games that after Mario I will have bought 4 day-1 Nintendo games. I buy digitally, so that is 2 pairs of vouchers saving me $40. Saving $40 in one year is a good deal for a $20 service. I don't buy too many games at full price, but I can easily see myself saving at least $20 with those next year also.

As for complaints about online, Nintendo is super inconsistent with online quality. I find multiplayer in e.g. Mario Kart 8, very good. But then there are things like multiplayer in Mario Maker 2 which even the Internet from 1999 would have found atrocious - so yes, it's only bad with some games, but those some games include some of the main Nintendo games with online.

The majority of non-Mario Kart racing games Nintendo put out between the early 90's to early 2000's (F-Zero, Excitebike 64, 1080 Snowboarding, etc.) are better than anything Mario Kart put out within that same time period.

I'll even double down and say that Mario Kart didn't have an objectively great game until Double Dash.

@Anti-Matter that’s totally fine and reasonable if you don’t care about the retro catalogues!
I do think the arguement of “it’s just a rental service” isn’t a good one though, as it lacks consistency.
No-one bats an eye at Xbox Game Pass, PS Plus/Now games, etc doing the same thing. But when Nintendo does the same thing, everyone loses their minds.
I’m not defending the practice, I would like to have virtual console back, but I think people are overreacting to it personally.

@Snatcher yep, sure is! ps plus getting a $20 increase and offering literally nothing new of value is a complete rip-off, at least Xbox and Nintendo do things with their services from time to time.

@Fizza I actually kinda agree, while SMK, MK64 and MKSC had their moments here and there, they were pretty flawed games, double dash really defined the series properly

@DiamondCore Funny how it took them ripping me off to see that, they suck for that honestly, and if it wasn’t for the fact that I need it for online play I would have thrown them to the curb.

@Snatcher thankfully im in a situation where the only game on PS4 (dreams) doesn’t have PSplus-required online, so I don’t actually need the service at all.
I’d recommend from this point forward to only buy PS plus on sale and never at the full $80

I wish Sony just had a $20/year tier with only online and cloud saves, maybe even only online, as paying $80 a year to functionally play certain games should be flat out illegal

@DiamondCore Oh we both know they would never, ever do that, I mean look at their greed! They didn’t need to Increase the price at all! But why not, hopefully they decide to make online only tiers.

Hopefully, maybe, with enough fan outcry on top of people not renewing subscriptions which seems to be a lot honestly, they just might revert the change, but they’re probably not which absolutely sucks.

While I still think Nintendo charges a lot for there plus service, but dang at least Nintendo and Xbox adds content, PlayStation did the extras, and then started limiting streaming and ps classic to tiers, was that not enough? Only a few months later to announce this, Sony really is on something Lmao.

Screw Sony for this honestly.

@Snatcher
Sony and Microsoft can charge $80 for their online subscription, but I only play kids games in physical without even bothering their games rental service with the games I don't want them at all.