Topic: Unpopular Gaming Opinions

The majority of non-Mario Kart racing games Nintendo put out between the early 90's to early 2000's (F-Zero, Excitebike 64, 1080 Snowboarding, etc.) are better than anything Mario Kart put out within that same time period.

I'll even double down and say that Mario Kart didn't have an objectively great game until Double Dash.

@Anti-Matter that’s totally fine and reasonable if you don’t care about the retro catalogues!
I do think the arguement of “it’s just a rental service” isn’t a good one though, as it lacks consistency.
No-one bats an eye at Xbox Game Pass, PS Plus/Now games, etc doing the same thing. But when Nintendo does the same thing, everyone loses their minds.
I’m not defending the practice, I would like to have virtual console back, but I think people are overreacting to it personally.

@Snatcher yep, sure is! ps plus getting a $20 increase and offering literally nothing new of value is a complete rip-off, at least Xbox and Nintendo do things with their services from time to time.

@Fizza I actually kinda agree, while SMK, MK64 and MKSC had their moments here and there, they were pretty flawed games, double dash really defined the series properly

@DiamondCore Funny how it took them ripping me off to see that, they suck for that honestly, and if it wasn’t for the fact that I need it for online play I would have thrown them to the curb.

@Snatcher thankfully im in a situation where the only game on PS4 (dreams) doesn’t have PSplus-required online, so I don’t actually need the service at all.
I’d recommend from this point forward to only buy PS plus on sale and never at the full $80

I wish Sony just had a $20/year tier with only online and cloud saves, maybe even only online, as paying $80 a year to functionally play certain games should be flat out illegal

@DiamondCore Oh we both know they would never, ever do that, I mean look at their greed! They didn’t need to Increase the price at all! But why not, hopefully they decide to make online only tiers.

Hopefully, maybe, with enough fan outcry on top of people not renewing subscriptions which seems to be a lot honestly, they just might revert the change, but they’re probably not which absolutely sucks.

While I still think Nintendo charges a lot for there plus service, but dang at least Nintendo and Xbox adds content, PlayStation did the extras, and then started limiting streaming and ps classic to tiers, was that not enough? Only a few months later to announce this, Sony really is on something Lmao.

Screw Sony for this honestly.

@Snatcher
Sony and Microsoft can charge $80 for their online subscription, but I only play kids games in physical without even bothering their games rental service with the games I don't want them at all.

@DiamondCore @Snatcher Microsoft and Sony are as bad as each with regards to the subscriptions. Microsoft's been gradually decreasing subscription value considerably over the past few months:

• Price increases announced in July as well as Series X price increase
• 1 month Game Pass special offer ($1 for Ultimate) reduced to 14 days and then later on removed completely
• Gold to Game Pass upgrade ratio reduced from 1:1 to 3:2
• Gold being replaced by Game Pass Core in September
• New Xbox dashboard is an ad infected mess (prioritizes the Xbox store and ads over being able to access games you can already play)
• Fewer games being added to Game Pass

Meanwhile the PS+ price increases are also ridiculous. So in the end NSO is honestly the only gaming subscription that's good value nowadays but even then that's poor value when compared to VC.

@Grumblevolcano Oh really? I have to be honest I don’t follow Xbox nearly as much so I didn’t know this! So I guess Xbox really is no better, and for all we know they might try to follow Sony and up the prices again, at least they have day one exclusives right? Something Sony doesn’t have. (If I’m right of course)

Who’d think that Nintendo would have the best deal out of the two, maybe some people did but I sure didn’t lol.

@NeonPizza To follow from this: PS5 is probably the most disappointing console I've ever purchased.

Sure, it was pretty exciting when I picked one up in 2021. The Dualsense's new features (haptic feedback, adaptive triggers) were pretty cool, Astro's Playroom was a good demonstration of the controller and a welcome dose of PS fanservice, and Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart was one of my favourite games of the year.

But beyond that? My PS5 has mostly been a big ugly PS4 upgrade / Netflix machine.

Some of my gripes include:

• Lack of exclusive games that interest me. Fair enough, I own other platforms, and have a preference of Switch and PC...PS was always going to come third in this regard. But I did at least get decent mileage out of my PS4. But in 2 years the only exclusives I've felt compelled by have been Astro and R&C. I guess it's a combination of (i) many Japanese games now coming to the Switch / PC, (ii) lack of Japanese first-party Sony games, (iii) many Sony first-party titles being cross-generational, and (iv) first-party titles now coming to Steam. I guess I should be grateful for the latter, as it probably means I won't need Sony hardware moving forward.
• The Dualsense. I've mentioned this in other threads, but I really can't stand the thing. It's just so uncomfortable to hold for me (whereas the Dualshock 4 was more-or-less perfect)...did they really need to increase the size of their controller again this generation? I do have slightly small hands for a man, but they are certainly larger than those of most women and children. Also, outside of a few novelty moments in Astro, as well as the general feel of weapons in R&C, I find the haptic feedback to be really hit or miss. In some instances I've found it outright obtrusive and have decided to turn it all the way down (no I don't want to feel a jolt in my hands every time I take a step, thank you very much - that is not how walking feels in real life).

Honestly at this point the only reason(s) I can think of for keeping my PS5 are Spiderman 2 and FF7 Rebirth - and I'm confident these will be coming to PC anyway.

I can see why some might find enjoyment in the PS5, and I'm happy for them in that regard. But it just isn't for me.

...and yeah, that broken HDMI link is quite annoying. How did they mess that up?

@Buizel People keep mentioning the controller, and I am glad I’m not the only one that has issues with the controller. While I love the feedback, it feels so off in my hands, my aim have felt off ever since. Thankfully I am starting to finally get used to it like a year later lol!

@Snatcher Maybe I'll get used to it some day. It's just a shame that there aren't more options on the market at the moment, unlike the Switch and, of course, PC.

@Buizel I wish I could at least play ps5 games with a ps4 controller, I get that it uses hepatic feedback but why not just turn it off? I can’t see why I can’t play a ps5 game with a ps4 controller, it sucks.

Hopefully one day it will be easier to find a way to use different controllers Xbox, switch, regardless of console, because one of the most important aspects of gaming is a controller, and it sucks if it doesn’t feel right in your hands.

@Snatcher yeah, Sony really messed up here.

@Grumblevolcano
Oh wow, I didn’t realize that.
I don’t really follow Xbox as much as the other 2 so I guess I didn’t realize that.

Though game pass is still better then PSplus atleast because atleast all the new AAA games go on it

Oh, I completely forgot about vouchers, those are great too!
I personally don’t use them because I’m a physical fanatic but they’re amazing for those who play digital!

Yeah, I can agree the connection is inconsistent, some games clearly got more love than others in terms of the online department.

I like the PS5, but my main gripe is just that this gen as a whole has been awful. The whole idea console generations are dead, and the pandemic really screwed it over, at least at the start. There's no real reason to own a PS5 or Xbox Series X, since Microsoft and Sony are still supporting old consoles that hold the games they're making back.

@VoidofLight I know multiple people who bought a PS5 purely to play FF16. Baldur's gate 3 is also on PS5 but not PS4. PS4 is technically supported, but if only PS5 has the new games most people want, that's a reason to upgrade.

@FishyS I mean, there are exclusive games, but a lot of them are few and far between at the current. I've heard Baldur's gate also runs pretty poorly on PS5.

I'd only buy a PS5 for FFVII Rebirth, and that just doesn't make sense to me. It'll come to PC eventually. Square-Enix ports pretty much everything.

First-party-wise, their games will all come in time, and if they don't... eh. Horizon is the only first-party property I care about at this point, and even if the ports are a year or two late, they'll come eventually.

Once upon a time, series like Persona and Gravity Rush were compelling reasons to buy Playstation consoles, but the former is now multi-plat (and beginning to associate itself more with the Xbox brand lol), and Sony killed the other because people don't buy PS first-party exclusives that don't fit into the PS exclusive cinematic gameplay mold.

@VoidofLight Eh. Cross-gen games have been a thing for a long time. The truth is that none of them are being "held back." The games that were designed with PS4 in mind started development with the PS4 in mind back when the PS4 was still the relevant console (sort of like BotW and Wii U), and otherwise companies are targeting current gen hardware and then working out if ports to the older machines can happen during/after development.

This gen sucks for other reasons. Chief among them being that there's just less of those hardware sales-driving games, as AAA experiences take so much longer to develop now. And also safer games in general, which is a consequence of these companies bloating the budgets and development times of their games.

From what I've seen, it runs fine, with a solid 60fps in performance mode.

I think some people were just a bit taken by surprise that the game seems a bit more polished on PC than console, which is a very rare occurrence these days.

Can’t get a feeling for a gen that hasn’t even gotten off the ground.