Topic: The Chit-Chat Thread

@Zuljaras thanks! I’m quite proud of the gutsy bits on the metroid. I’ll try to scan it to share a better version of the pic eventually. About pastels, yeah, and they get more muted as they dry too. I do appreciate how… solid they end up being though, makes it easier to layer and cover up stuff.

Ohh I got to try that salt thing. I’ll sub to the guy.

I suppose you could say I’m in my “make a single subject and then a vague background around it” period.

I kind of try to make a wet on wet effect on my backgrounds. But I think this paint is either quick drying, or the various fans keeping the room at an acceptable temperature make it dry quick 😅

@Eel That's an awesome Metroid painting that you've done. I've done a little bit of watercolor during my drawing class, but only as a sort of experiment. I guess it didn't click with me when I tried it out myself (drawing with pencils is more my forte), but I do like how watercolor paintings look in general.

@MarioLover92 thank you! I’d love to be able to draw well with pencils, with the cool shading and smoothing and stuff. But I usually end up with a smudgy mess instead.

I have a relative that does oil painting professionally. It’s honestly so cool, but a lot more expensive…

@Eel Mmmm, you have to wet the paper with clean water first (I mean really wet it with a brush) and then you start putting paint on top. You will get some really nice mixing effects on it. And that way you will have more time for mixing the colors Just remember to wet only the places where you want to put paint first.

And you are probably familiar with this but if you want to have opaque colors and paint ON TOP of the other paints (after they dried) you should use gouache paint which is watercolor BUT it is opaque where traditional watercolors (aquarelles) are always transparent.

I never knew that there where more than one TYPE of watercolors.

@Owl1 Haha, sorry to have made you the victim of my morning pondering...and I will spare you my often too philosophical straying aways of the mind, but I just want to say this: don't get me wrong, I love the myriad of bodily sensations, including all the strain and toil that comes with it . It is just that after just waking up and leaving the dream-like state I can't help but feel a bit nogalstic and melancholic towards the total freedom I have had over there, haha (a) . It is not that I want to leave the body completely (as of now, that is, haha), but I would love to be able to experience both from time to time (and not only partly in the dream-like state).

@Zuljaras oh I’m not sure what’s in these particular watercolors then, but these actually layer quite well, and are like, very opaque once they dry. Unless you really water them down. It’s almost like they have a matte finish to them.

You might be able to see it in my profile banner/avatar here on the site, it’s also the same watercolors, and I basically painted it in layers.

I’ll try adding more water next time I try wet on wet. Perhaps I was being a bit stingy.

It’s also somewhat funny, but the box also came with a white gel pen to add details. But the pen simply wants nothing to do with the paint, it won’t write on top of it no matter how dry it is. I honestly would have preferred a blank liner or something else.

@Eel Yes that is watercolors. Gouache paints come in tubes 99% of the time. While pure watercolors come in both pans or in tubes. The best things is that even after they are dry from the tube you can rewet them and have the same results

I saw artists do the watercolor test on youtube in order to see if the brand is good. They but a thick black line on the paper with waterproof marker and then put the colors on top of it. After they are dry the line should be perfectly visible.

Also, if you paint with watercolors you have to do it in "negative way". You have to paint around the object and then paint the object. With gouache, oils and acrylic you can just paint on top of 10 layers and they will be perfectly opaque.

Seriously after so many digital drawing the traditional stuff feels so fresh, relaxing and exciting

PS: That white jelly pen should stay on top no matter what. Just make sure the painting is totally dry.

@Zuljaras oh these would definitely make a black liner disappear. Perhaps they have a lot of white filler to ensure the pastel tone.

I’ve tried it with days old test swatches, the pen doesn’t seem to like the paint at all.

@Eel Is this your set?
https://www.derwentart.com/en-gb/p/2305865/professional-produ...

I would like to know please

This is from the site of this set above:
"Features
A gouache style pigmented paint within a palette formulation, in soft and playful pastel shades
Layer up in thick opaque layers allowing the colour to dry as a bright, matte finish."

If that's the case then it is really with gouache pigment inside and that is why you can paint freely on layers

@Zuljaras I'm amazed that you keep painting traditionally, I wouldn't sacrifice the comfort of digital painting for anything.

@ComfyAko actually I am just starting. Digital is indeed very comfortable and you can change anything anytime. But painting traditionally has that calming factor and also intricacies of its own.

The best part is that one does not go in the way of the other

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@Zuljaras yup that’s it! Then that explains that, it’s formulated to behave like gouache

@Eel Did it come with a gel pen or that brush pen? Because the brush pen is supposed to be filled with water and when you squeeze it, it will wet the paints in the pans.

To be honest that hybrid between watercolor and gouache sounds really cool! I am definitely interested!

PS: Damn ... I want to hoard it now

@Zuljaras both, it was a scrawlrbox kit. It came with the full derwent set, a pad of water color paper, and the pen

… and a fizzy candy.

When I ordered it a few months ago, it was on discount, so I got it all for about 13 dollars.

@Eel That is a nice deal! Here it is above the 20$ price Have fun with it

@Zuljaras yeah now they only have as part of a water color bundle set for $40, so I lucked out!

These boxes come from europe so it takes a long time… But it was worth the wait.

@Eel Wow you ordered from Europe ... but why? Especially for something so small and probably available in Mexico I presume

@Zuljaras mostly just to try out the scrawlrbox boxes, they had a buy three pay one special.

The entire order plus shipping was about the same price as buying a single unit of that same watercolor set in Amazon Mexico.

@Zuljaras yeah, that is a great approach! You can always try both. For me, digital is very calming, so I think you just need to try and see what works best for you.

I'm not that good at it but I'm having a good time and that's all that matters