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Tyranexx

Many text walls up there. Unfortunately I'm gonna have to pull a tl;Dr this time.

@ThanosReXXX I've improved and am no longer a mute in uncomfortable situations much of the time, but I'm also still not an extrovert.

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NintendoByNature

Watched the first 30 min of drac last night. I can tell it's going to be a wild ride. And I absolutely love that it's OG Dracula, 1800s, Transylvania, castle...all the good stuff. Not a fan of vampires in modern day setting(other than blade). Something about a traditional Dracula show gets me in a good way.

I mean......its no Dracula:Dead and Loving It but it'll do(clearly a joke)

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bimmy-lee

My cat’s breath smells like cat food.

@NintendoByNature - Dang, I have some free time tonight, and I can’t decide between gaming or Dracula. I’m getting really close to finishing LM3, and Drac seems like something my wife would also like; so I think I’ll go with Luigi and give her until this weekend to get on board with ole timey vampires. Totally on board with modern vampires being mostly annoying. 30 Days of Night worked for me, but otherwise I like my vampires brooding in castles.

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NintendoByNature

@bimmy-lee noiceee dude finish lm3. Yea she might like it. I feel like it appeals to all. EspeciAlly being classic drac forma. I forgot about 30 days of night. I did actually like that and was a great idea for a vampire movie when you think about it.

Watched another 45 of drac too. Man there's 2 really cool twists in the first episode. And i LOVE the nun in the show. You'll see what i mean. Shes a BA mamma jamma

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NEStalgia

I have no idea what I just read. I knew I should have opened a window while using metal polish....

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Heavyarms55

@NEStalgia You know what, this is an honestly interesting conversation, but I don't think it belongs on NintendoLife. I know many of us, myself included, come here because it's about gaming and is to an extent, and escape. So I'm going to cut us both off.

If you're interested, perhaps we could continue in another forum or on Discord where we can spare those who aren't interested or comfortable with the topic.

@Woomy_NNYes What do you think of those things like "Alexa" and Cortana? Those "smart speakers" that are always listening to you? I am not a fan!

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WoomyNNYes

@Heavyarms55 the only way alexa responds to your voice, is to always be listening, which means recording - when it's on. Granted, it probably only holds onto the audio temporarily. If you have an Alexa, you can look in your accout and see every question you asked. I learned that from my brother; when it was newish, he was curious to see what his 3 & 6 year old daughters were asking. Which, back then wad 90%, "alexa, play frozen", "play elmo song". But yeah, you can see a chronological list of everything you ask in text. Unsurprisingly, you have to agree to a legal-ese contract when you activate Alexa. That's because of data rights. It's big money collecting & selling data.

I'm not paranoid about the data. But if i own a phone/computer, it's mine. And I don't want horses##t running, using up battery, memory. And I don't like therm making profit of my data in the mysterious way they do.

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Heavyarms55

@Woomy_NNYes Fair enough. I simply don't believe that it doesn't record and send everything to a server, direct question or not. To me, people are literally paying to bug their own homes and it strikes me as ridiculous that those people complain about privacy issues still. As far as I am concerned, we should assume every, single, thing we do on a device connected to the internet, is logged somewhere, in some mass data gathering server. That way we wont share anything that we aren't okay with being out there.

The only reason I shop online is because I understand that companies like Amazon and Nintendo have more to lose by not protecting my data than by protecting it ( I trust their self-interest ) - and that hackers and digital crooks have much more lucrative targets to go after.

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alpacatears

I personally see smart speakers and smart home devices as exactly the same as having a smart phone in your pocket. They all listen for wake words these days so the same fear that people have for Amazon Echo and Google home should realistically also be applied to everyone's phones, all things being equal.

Privacy is obviously a very important topic and different people are comfortable with differing levels of it. It would, however, be great if some of our privacy policies were proactive rather than reactive. Legislation like GDPR in Europe at least is trying to push for a more proactive approach but it's such a vast and complicated legal topic that's gonna take years to iron out.
I work in health research as part of a longitudinal study so we have many many safeguarding procedures in place to protect data and privacy and I'm happy to see private companies finally at least beginning to be put under the same scrutiny. Some of the new privacy features recently released by Google were a direct response to them being fined by the Data Protection Commission. It's just annoying that it takes financial penalties for them to do what should have been available this entire time upon release of such technology.

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NEStalgia

@alpacatears That's a good point. In theory, you can turn off (or not turn on) the "listening" capabilities of phones. I'd certainly never enable them. But, like my GPS example above, just because you turn it off, doesn't mean it's actually off.... Though at least with a phone, if you're in airplane mode, etc you know it shouldn't be transmitting any data while "home speakers" (aka home microphones, spun as speakers instead) are truly always on. Plus, if phones were as useful a listening device, they wouldn't realistically be selling "home speakers" at all.

But, your point is valid comparing it to phones. That's true. Though it's maybe a really bad indicator as a society that we can say "surveillance device x isn't so bad because it's not so different from surveillance device y." The problem should have been halted when y came out, and the public never should have embraced permanent surveillance in exchange for convenience.

But it also comes down to trust. Most people wouldn't trust individual people listening in, but would trust a faceless multinational corporation. Somehow people tend to think institutions are inherently trustworthy because they're big, despite just being an unaccountable collection of individual people, and despite knowing they themselves would be more than willing to do untrustworthy things if told to by an institution that was paying them. That's a massive failure in the psychology of group behavior.

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WoomyNNYes

Does anyone cross country ski? Ever since I burned out on bikes & skiing a few years ago, I struggle with winter. And running is a bore; You never get to coast, slide, get airtime, or go fast. Sure, I could sprint. But we all know a lone person sprinting looks like an idiot (Maybe some sweet mirrored Oakley's could solve that.) I think I understand which equipment to buy, but doe anybody cross country ski and recommend it?
(I understand, on a gaming site, I might get only crickets as a response to that question. I don't know anyone that cross country skis. )

@alpacatears YES! (not sarcasm) I'm so glad Europe has been making legal steps toward privacy and data rights. (Still not sarcasm) Because the US isn't doing enough. I wish the US was that proactive. I really do. (None of this was sarcasm. I'm sincerely enthused.)

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Well, that happens when you confuse me with your "and there shall be no ample spacing to make reading easier" text walls...

And this sentence is confusing, though:
"And not wanting a cold war was the reason I said to not desire a "second superpower for balance".

You may not want a second one, but it's already there, so...
And balance is good, regardless of whether or not either one or both of the parties involved consist of governments with deranged leaders...

And the public only wants war when it's goaded by politics or propaganda. And indeed, like you said, of course also if they themselves don't have to actually partake in said war, keeping it nicely removed from their safe homes, which is what I actually meant with my previous comment. No civilian in his or her right mind is screaming for war.

As for the meddling bit: no offense, obviously, but I wonder how objective people living in America right now can be where that is concerned, because obviously, their army can do no wrong in their eyes, or at least, for most people. While over here, things are looked at from a spectator's point of view, which (while still not completely objective either) makes it a heck of a lot clearer to see at times. From a neutral point of view, we had no business being in Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Irak and so forth and so forth, other than pushing someone's or something's agenda. Lots of good and unfortunately young people died for absolutely nothing, often just because two opposing sides, neither of which had any business in any of these countries, had to stick their noses in, which is a very sad conclusion to come to.

@Tyranexx Haha, no worries, nobody's asking you to become an extrovert. Just be yourself, but also be aware that "yourself" can always become a better or a new and improved version.

'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

NotTelevision

@ThanosReXXX It was hard to tell fully before going abroad, but the media brainwashing machine is very effective in the US. Every country has their fair share of propaganda I’m sure. There is something so pervasive in the US though, even from those claiming they are “skeptical” about US goals.

I just know the Trump news era has been especially bad since it’s just become an echo chamber where both sides are more distracted than usual. Washington, New York, LA etc... is just full of journalists and pundits who want to get people into a fevor about things that don’t really matter to them either way. Not all of them mind you. There are good, hardworking people in the media for sure. Just it seems harder to find any that don’t want to talk about Trump’s incoherent tweets for an hour.

I’m an optimist and say it will get better before it gets worse.

Even some democratic candidates have put the US’s bloated military budget on the chopping block. It’s only a matter of time before it becomes a more pervasive national discussion.

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ThanosReXXX

Me, thinking to myself:
"Well, that's nice, such a big update to Pokémon Sword and Shield. Practically all one could ever want. That finally oughta stop all the whining about how bad it is and how few Pokémon it has".

What the HECK was I thinking? Of COURSE these so-called "fans" aren't going to stop whining, because no matter how much is added, changed or improved, it'll probably never be enough. And the article already has close to 300 comments. I'm getting pretty sick and tired of all these cry babies...

'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

ThanosReXXX

@NotTelevision Well, the Dutch don't. They are simply far too sober and down to Earth to be mass-brainwashed, and over here, there's also still a kind of "French revolution" spirit, so if governments try to trick or play them, they simply put up blockades and demonstrations everywhere. The other month, farmers duped by the government drove hundreds of tractors to the Dutch parliament building (causing massive traffic jams along the way), and dumped stuff there and put up camp to act out their protest campaign.

In other countries, that would potentially end in mass arrests, but the Dutch don't care, and the government is all about soothing the masses, not about punishing them for speaking their minds.

'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

NEStalgia

@ThanosReXXX sigh Sometimes it's as though you TL;DR my posts...... Soon you'll be txting in abbrvtd words lol amirite? He's going full millennial. We're losing him....

I disagree, though, a public can be, and has been, desiring a war (albeit one they personally don't have to be involved in) without being goaded by politics and propaganda. There's a saying that in democratic systems, you don't always get the government you want, but you always get the government you deserve. The government, for all the finger pointing we all do at it, largely because it doesn't represent us, personally, at all, unfortunately DOES tend to be a mirror of the population's desires. Even if it appears contrary to the public's stated desires. A corrupt, abusive government more times than not represents a public that is corrupt and abusive at its core, or is, at minimum entirely indifferent to said corruption and abuse, thus tacitly encouraging it. A public that, given the position and power, would gladly themselves do what said government is doing. It is a reflection of the public. But, again, that's not today's minor "police actions" etc. That's for the big, declared, national level wars and such. We're not under that condition at the current moment.

Oh, you know I don't go with mainstream "taught truths" from media or academia. "No business being in country x", meddling etc....it's a matter of how deep you're looking (which was my point earlier.) Of course all the "meddling", at its surface value, is just meddling, but there's usually more going on than the evening news cliff notes to all this stuff, and it's not sheer jingoism either.

Vietnam and Korea were never about either of those countries at all. They were proxy wars for the Cold War. Fighting North Vietnam (and Cambodia) was about fighting the USSR and their growing sphere of influence and halting it in a big PR show of force (that backfired miserably and was, at best, an ill advised, though also sabotaged domestically - see also "brick layers".) Fighting North Korea was about fighting the USSR and their expansion through China. Those were proxy battles of the Cold War, nothing more or less. Well, ok, Korea was also a bit of cleanup of Japan's WWII mess since we were now taking responsibility for shoring up that front as part of the surrender....

Now that's not an assessment as to if fighting proxy wars as part of a cold war between superpowers is right or wrong, ethically. It's just a statement: That's what happened. I'd though that to be commonly understood now, even if it wasn't at the time, but there you go. That's what those "conflicts" and "meddling" was about. That's the vaunted "balance between superpowers" at work. Though Korea was a special situation since, again, it was primarily Japan that made a mess with that that, both directly in Korea and in creating the situation in China that led to the allies of the USSR taking power (and thus leading to the current situation, thus...technically, it's all Japan's fault, much as I love them...), and cleaning that up could be considered part of cleaning up their WWII aftermath and arguably a responsibility.

Iraq 1 was also a Cold War proxy in the battle for resources and influence while the USSR was also operating in the region. Most of that "meddling" wasn't "meddling" but, right or wrong, facets of the superpowers "balancing" (or so we're calling it.) OTOH While history is, IMO, always open for evaluation, Afghanistan and Iraq 2 are a bit too recent current events to be considered fair game - I'd say only that, again, is part of the current unacknowledged cold war, again, involving resources and economic influence. Not just pure meddling for business reasons. Be it right or wrong.

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Heavyarms55

@NEStalgia Great! Please let me know if/when you have a place! Seems like this conversation will only become more interesting! Reminds me of university!

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HobbitGamer

Watching part 2 of Dracula with dinner. Found a wall chicken, threw it on the grill. It didn’t belong in this world.

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