@gcunit I agree about societies. Then their solution is to forcibly homogenize behavior rather than realize that essentially, people don't belong together in large groups at all and only bad can come of it.
@StableInvadeel Humans didn't evolve to live in large dense societies, cities, or anything of the sort. Humans are not herd animals by nature. Humans need space and distance without seeing any other humans at all beyond small groups of humans. Family/clan/village. Not much more than that. The structure of the modern world is inherently contrary to the human psyche and nature.
The result is the "delightful" world we see around us.
@ThanosReXXX - Your body will be on the other side of the street, as will all the other unique and important chemistry that makes you you. If you were unhappy on one side of the street, odds are you’ll feel the same on the other side, even if you find what you’re looking for. We know the cars are on the street, so it’s our job to cross quickly and safely. I acknowledge sometime people still get run over, even on the sidewalk.
I’ve been on IG for five years, and I’ve never had a cross word with anyone. I have a public account under a pseudonym, and I use it to see pictures of art and my friend’s kids, and I text with people I’d otherwise not be able to contact (yo, @Anti-Matter ). Everything has been beautiful. No ugliness. I just cross the road carefully, no loitering. We’re in lockstep from prior conversations about not wanting to know what every idiot in the world is thinking about, and I avoid finding out at every turn.
The Mommy Mafia sounds like a nightmare. Parents judging other parents is just ludicrous. We’re all a sideways moment away from total crisis. Pretending we have it all together is futile because everyone knows we don’t.
@NEStalgia Without humans living in groups, there wouldn't even be any humans left to speak of, after all these millennia...
But in all seriousness: thousands of humans living on top of each other in cities and so on, is indeed a forced scenario, but we're certainly not solitary beings, so at the very least, some companionship is required for humans to thrive and to stay relatively sane. Modern society just super-sized and aggravated that, to a point where it's gone over and subsequently down the hill.
I guess the takeaway is that, once again, moderation is key, even with humans themselves...
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@bimmy-lee Yeah, I meant being run over on the sidewalk, which was basically a metaphor. The relative safety of posting on your own account being standing/walking on the sidewalk, and the runaway cars and motorbikes being the a*holes that still hunt you down and troll you regardless.
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@NEStalgia the fact we did indeed evolve into forming large societies kinda proves you wrong. It's not philosophical banter or anything, it's plain observation.
@ThanosReXXX - Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. I’ve never had some random person come after one of my posts like that. It’s difficult to comprehend how someone could consider that a worthwhile use of their time. If someone is targeting randos, they’re probably pretty deep into social media session. Probably best to shut it down and go for a walk at that point. I pretty much agree with what @gcunit said earlier, except there does seem to be some sort of inherent buzz in the illusion of “being heard” built in to social media that seems to be quite addictive to some people.
@bimmy-lee Yeah, it's like I always say, that the internet in general, including social media, gives a voice to individuals who should never have gotten one in the first place. And the anonymity of it all also gives them the courage to speak out, whereas in real life, they're probably the secluded, introverted type, the people that are next to invisible for one reason or the other, and from behind their computer they can finally lash out at whatever bugs them.
P.S.
No offense taken, buddy.
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@ThanosReXXX As I said, family, clan, village but not bigger. Those were the natural groupings of humans. Pack hunting (business?) when necessary, etc. But then the groups would split up again.
I'd read a compelling writeup once (I don't recall where) of a theory that cities themselves sprang up as a result of a survival-state during some sort of natural disaster (maybe major famine, etc. I don't recall the specifics, it was a number of years ago I'd read it.) Basically humans adapted to unnatural imbalanced conditions to survive a forced natural disaster by forming cities and living densely, and then never ended up - we've existed in crisis-survival mode for 5000 years basically because everyone forgot to stop
@StableInvadeel But we didn't evolve into forming large societies. They happened. They exist and people are born into them. Considering the only way to END that model would be to raise an army large enough to obliterate said societies, and actually do it, makes ending it and switching to something else impractical, even if that's the natural result. If you were dumped on an empty planet with loose gatherings of humans in patches, what would you elect to do? Mirror the current Earth model and pile as many people as possible into as dense an area as possible, or spread out and live in less homogeneous villages of smaller sets of people? Most would not choose to rebuild Manhattan and L.A, or even the density of the Europe in general, if given a chance to build a new civilization balanced naturally for humans. It's what we're stuck with because it's here, not what we evolved into.
There's a reason the smattering of tribes that don't live in that dense society fight to the death to preserve that, after all.
Similarly, what's the more pleasant adventure? Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, Tales, Witcher? Or Cyberpunk, WoW, etc? (I don't mean good game, or such, I mean in which is there a more pleasant/memorable feeling of adventure?) The small villiages of the former group resonate strongly with most people. Small groups where everyone has a place and value, and makes up a part of the local color. Large groups where most people are disposable organic masses of little or no overall value aren't terribly memorable or enjoyable.
I'm sure giraffes didn't just wake up one day thinking, hey long necks?
They just happened. Due to situation and necessity.
Humans in a new planet would most likely choose to stick together, and their small fantasy town would eventually become another big city (if they're able to thrive). Because that's kinda what happens when humans survive long enough.
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