Topic: Games You Feel are Overrated

Hmm there are plenty of games that just don't appeal to me. They might be great but I'm never going to like them because they're just not for me.

In terms of games the critics loved which I should have too...

Shantae & the pirates curse

It has great elements & controls really well but I found the actual level designs to be a little generic, the humour a little off (in that it's a little too random and trying too hard) and the end of the game has too many sections that require you to take advantage of 'glitches' (that are clearly by design).

The actual classic games it's a homage to would never have intentionally done that.

Shovel Knight

It's a great game and I had a really fun time with it. But the second half of it left me a little cold.

As the game wore on i felt it had some issues. The levels are far too long for my tastes and the 'death loot' risk/reward system really annoyed me at the same time as taking all of the challenge out of the boss battles.

I'd still recommend it but I don't think it's quite as good as some critics seem to believe it is.

Smash Brothers

It'd be a much better experience to me if they got the mediocre fighting out of the way and let it be a digital Nintendo museum (since that's what really appeals about it to me).

Tying running into a double press of one direction is also somethimg I've never really enjoyed in platform games either.

Uncharted 3 was the only Uncharted game I've played and I didn't really enjoy it. Too much genre roulette and scripted sequences, one moment you're playing a TPS, then you're solving puzzles, then you're doing QTEs, the game just doesn't have any consistency to it and it's like it can't make up its mind what it wants to be. And yeah, the scripting was pretty bad, it removes almost all of the skill and player agency from the equation. The Hollywood approach actually kind of brings it down.

@Snaplocket
Well Kid Icarus got a metacritic of ~80% and a lot of people complained about the controls. And Phantom Hourglass is still one of the worst reviewed Zelda games. Again mostly because of the control scheme. Which doesn't mean much because it's Zelda and they're all pretty solid but if you were to rank them based on metacritic score it'd look something like this:

1. Ocarina of Time
2. Breath of the Wild
3. Wind Waker
4. Twilight Princess
5. Majora's Mask
6. A Link to the Past
7. Skyward Sword
8. A Link Between Worlds
9. Phantom Hourglass
10. Minish Cap
11. Spirit Tracks
12. Four Swords Adventures
13. Zelda
14. Zelda 2
15. Triforce Heroes

So yeah, if someone says "what? Phantom Hourglass good? The DS Zeldas were some of the worst Zelda games ever!". I'd say sure. You agree with everyone else then.

Where are the GB/C Zelda games?

To be fair, pretty much everything said in this thread is entirely subjective.

Not on metacritic, they only go back as far as the GBA and N64. The only reason the NES and SNES Zeldas are on that list is because they were re-released on the GBA.

Huh, weird, considering the N64 is older than the GBC.

Too bad.

Personally, I prefer it. Super's gameplay wasn't revolutionary or anything, but it was far quicker paced. I don't like traditional turn-based battle systems because they get slow, boring, and monotonous against standard enemies. They don't have the depth of full strategy games like Fire Emblem or Hearthstone, and they don't have the quick paced, reaction-heavy aspect of action systems. These problems are in full-force in the first two Paper Mario games, despite the attempt to remedy it with action commands.

In other words, once I fight an enemy 5 times, I don't want to spend a half hour fighting more of them to get to the boss.

I dunno, the badges in the first two games made for a very flexible and replayable game. They also give a good amount of stragegy.

I don't know of many games where you can lower your max HP below the original minimum and still be able to beat the game.

(seriously, 5HP paper mario is the best paper mario).

I'm not saying there isn't strategy. The strategy really shows in boss fights. But the fact that I CAN beat grunt enemies mindlessly means it's not always on my mind. When I play a strategy game though, every single move is a critical decision that could be the difference between a loss or a win. That's toned down for several (good) reasons in a turn-based JRPG, and that makes them not really for me (I put up with Pokemon for other reasons)

I always save space for the badge that kills the weak enemies instanstly without battling.

The only customization features in the older games that isn't in SPM are badges and choosing with point category to boost. You still have customization the form of cooking, unique items, and interchangeable Pixls.

And I think you are underselling the combat a bit in SPM. Fighting with non jumping techniques is still pretty fun, and IMO the platforming doesn't control poorly or anything. In fact, I picked it up faster than I picked up platforming in the 2D Platforming games because it doesn't have their asinine control mapping.

@Yellowtails Thing is gameplay is more than combat, and Super Paper Mario's puzzles and secrets were a big step up with the dimension swapping mechanic.

@skywake
Going by the metacritic list, I can't say PH is underrated or overrated, seems rather spot on. I enjoyed it. Not as much as quite a few other Zelda games, but it was good.

@Snaplocket I believe that what Octane quoted was directed to the people that are taking it personal so that they can understand this is entirely subjective, and that the opinions of the others about their favourite games shouldn't affect them since people are talking about why they THINK those games aren't as good (or even bad), and not assuring that they are bad games (at least the most reasonable, educated people). It could be also directed to the people that assure to know the game's quality.

I could be wrong though, but even so, I don't see a problem with his comment.

I don't disagree, but everytime I think of the jokes that don't work in the game, it is baffling to me that anyone could like it. :V

Pit asking "Are we there yet?" too much as if that's a funny running gag is the Metroid Other M of comedy writing. It is legitimately painful. There's good comedy in the game, but when it fails, it fails harder than most Nintendo games could fail at anything.

I loved the writing in Kid Icarus: Uprising. What I didn't like was trying to pay attention to the dialogue AND fend off waves of enemies at the same time.

@Ralizah Prepare for Titanfall.

LOL, I thought Kid Icarus: Uprising's humor was nearly perfect. It was a hilarious game from beginning to end and there were simply NO cheesy moments. Like, none at all. In fact, the humor was what made me play the same levels again and again AND AGAIN. I need to see that kind of humor in a Nintendo game that's not really Mario & Luigi or Paper Mario.

And I thought Super Paper Mario was downright fantastic. It's not an RPG, but it sure as heck is a Paper Mario game. The humor is there. The story is easily the best in the PM series. The puzzles, when executed right, are pretty memorable (Figuring out that Merlee's Mansion had a catch is one of the highlights of my gaming life haha). Even with the somewhat ugly visuals (too many shapes and edges, bleck), I really fail to figure out why people don't like the game simply because it's not exactly traditional.