Topic: Pokémon Sun & Moon - Discussion & Speculation

@Haru17 Yeah, that's my problem too this ''leak''. I realised that as soon as I posted them. Since it was from an anonymous poster, it didn't have much credibility to begin with, but I thought they were interesting nontheless, especially since the CoroCoro leaks can pop up anytime now.

For reasons Haru mentioned, I'm not sure that I buy the "leak" about Electabuzz and Magmar. Revamping their 4th Gen forms definitely doesn't fit the pattern for Alolan evolutions. I find Alolan Ekans and Arbok slightly more believable. It's very possible that multiple Alolan Pokemon are exclusive to each version.

Since these are uncomfirmed, however, I'm taking everything with a bag of salt.

Doesn't Arbok always have a regional form?

IIRC their pattern on their chest or back is changed for each region/generation. Basically its johton, hoenn, sinnohan, unovian, kalosian, alolan arbok regardless.

EDIT: apparently that stoped in gen 4-6. Gen 2 and 3 are the same, but the firered leafgreen arboks are different.

Those are dumb ideas for Alola Forms, there's better typings they can use for those Pokemon.

Ekans/Arbok should be Poison/Psychic
Elekid/Electabuzz/Electivire should be Electric/Fighting
Magby/Magmar/Magmortar should be Fire/Poison

@MegaBeedrill Wouldn't call those regional forms, just GameFreak's incapability to keep his design consistent. Gen 1 and 2 were always inconsistent in their designs, the RS sprite seems to be based on the GSC sprite. Since FRLG they kept the sprite true to the original Sugimori artwork.

They do mention in its Pokédex that it has regional patterns.

And played with it, alternating between those two designs up until gen 4.

The September 2010 issue revealed Servine, Pignite, and Dewott. The September 2013 issue revealed Quilladin, Braixen, and Frogadier.

Just something to note.

If they keep to that pattern, it's possible that we'll have an idea about how accurate those Chinese leaks are with the final evolutions. I sort of hope not.

Dang, it's been a while since I wanted to see the CoroCoro scans this badly.

@Tyranexx Well considering that Rockruff and the starters are supposed to share a secret and they're going to reveal Rockruff's secret, I'd imagine there's a pretty good possibility we'll see the middle stage of the starters.

The secret is that they will evolve through microtransactions

Nice hindsight! I never would have noticed that.

I should also point out that those issues of CoroCoro were the last ones before Black/White and X/Y came out. We still have 3 issues of CoroCoro before Sun/Moon release, so it's quite possible that we'll have to wait until November to see the middle stages of the starters.

@IceClimbers: Fair point. I'd forgotten about that detail!

It wouldn't surprise me if this happened to Pokemon Go at some point. I know you're kidding. XD

Pokemon black/white was released on September 18th tho. The corocoro only revealed something that was being shown literally a few days after.

X/Y was released on October 12th, one month after the reveal.

Now we're expecting S/M on November 18th, so this would be 1 or 2 months earlier than they would normally show start evos.

There's isn't a particular pattern besides the starters for both gens being shown in September since the release of the actual games is still inconsistent to get an idea how close they want us to know that information.

Either way, either theory would be proven tomorrow most likely. They might not even show them in corocoro and just throw a trailer at us eventually unrelated, they seem to do a 2 reveal per month pattern for sun and moon rather than corocoro exclusive like ORAS.

Wasn't there a point where the anime for a generation started before the actual games were released? I don't know why but I feel like the first episode of gen 4's animated series was prior to DP's release.. unless I'm just thinking of the two movies for lucario and manaphy.

EDIT: Actually... now that I think about it, gen 7 is the only gen to ever have no pokemon given anime appearences prior to the gen's introduction and release. During gen 1 we had gen 2 mons like topepi in anime, in gen 2 we had latios and latias given movies before they were in gen 3, gen 3 we got the lucario and manaphy movie, then gen 4 we got the zoroark movie, then gen 5 we seen mega mewtwo Y in the genesect movie, but nothing in gen 6 has shown anything of gen 7 besides the zygarde forms and theorectically zygarde was susposed to be special for gen 6 not gen 7, we even had in-game moves implying Z was a plan before S/M.

I remember Bonsly in the Diamond / Pearl anime and Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness. Good times.

Munchlax too right?

A bunch of gen 4 pokemon appeared during gen 3, including bonsly, munchlax, weavile and lucario.

At least Kecleon and Blaziken appeared in the anime during the Johto saga.

@MegaBeedrill Yeah, forgot about that one. It's good too. Such nice designs, that gen.

Is Magearna a Gen 6 or 7 Pokemon? They have confirmed Volcanion to be Gen 6 (releasing in October) but I think Magearna is Gen 7.

Also buizel in the manaphy movie. I feel like there's one more but I can't put my finger on it.

Well this is a good sign, gen 7 didn't even start and I already forgot about the new gen 7 diancie we're getting.

wait diancie was gen 6- oh yeah now I remember why I forgot magearna...

@Haru17 looking back at it now, It just occured to me they made a porygon evolution that has a constant seizure with swirly eyes even after the events that happened many years ago... talk about well thought out designs.