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Topic: Harvest Moon: Skytree Village

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Pokefanmum82

yeah i figured it out.

Want: Harvest Moon: One World, Story of Seasons: Pioneering Town, Super Mario 3D World + Bowser’s Fury

Finished the Alola Dex.
Now playing New Horizons, Wrath of White Witch and Sword

Pokefanmum82

I disagree. I find I couldn't get into Story of Season at all. It was too boring in my opinion. There was only farming and relationships in that game. Lost Valley and Skytree Village add a mystery to the game too. I'm going to try to get into the new Story of Seasons when it comes out but I'm loving Skytree Village alot. Farming is so much easier to do now that you can plant 9 seeds at a time and water 3 plots at a time. Yes Story of Seasons' art style is better but people need to understand that Harvest Moon will never go back to the way it was, and that's fine with me.

Want: Harvest Moon: One World, Story of Seasons: Pioneering Town, Super Mario 3D World + Bowser’s Fury

Finished the Alola Dex.
Now playing New Horizons, Wrath of White Witch and Sword

Eel

Of all the people who could complain about kiddie graphics, she's certainly the most unexpected.

Anyway, both series are different, don't go between them expecting them to be carbon copies with the same items and features.

About the blocky terrain, it's that way because you can lower and raise the land, subdividing it in squares makes it easier on both the system and the player.

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Eel

Harvest Moon has always been meant to appeal to young players. Not to the extend of Hello Kitty, or other early-childhood entertainment franchises, but kids are usually the intended audience.

It features romance, sometimes references to alcohol, and other themes kids may find "mature", but it rarely goes into kid-unfriendly territories.

It is true that some games feature kiddier art styles than others though. The recent Story of Seasons games (and Marvelous' last Harvest Moon) in particular seem to be focusing more on bishonen-type characters and other such styles that appeal to teens. The games themselves are still kid-friendly though.

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Eel

The people "let's playing" the game in YouTube right now don't seem to fully understand how to play the game, so I don't think they'be too useful.

But if you have any questions we can try to help here!

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ollietaro

I am trying to look for reviews of this game and I can't find a single one! Is there a block on reviews for the time being?

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ianl579

@ollietaro My best guess is that no review copies were sent out in advance, so reviewers only had a chance to play the game once it publicly released. If so, I would expect reviews within the next week or two. If not... then I have absolutely no idea why reviews are MIA.

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Eel

I know they did send several early access copies. Two people I know from the ushi no tane forums had the game like a week before launch. And the embargo was lifted a day or two before launch.

A lack of reviews right now could be related to the way the game needs some time to evaluate, it's not some sort quick arcade game after all.

The only reviews I have been able to find are in languages I don't understand. Both were positive though... The rating was 8 in one or both, can't remember.

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Freelance

Honestly, guys, you can't use graphics are a way to find out if a game appeals more to older people or not. Even cartoons can have mature themes even when it looks kiddy. Take a look at The Wind Waker. The game is pretty darn grim.

Natsume's HM games are supposed to go 'back to the roots,' hence the HM Goddess and Harvest sprites and stuff. Yes, you can't really customize the main character much, other than clothing, but I'd pick the ability to customize my entire farmland over the ability to customize my character any day of the week. Terraforming is so much fun.

I guess there's not many reviews yet because too many (ignorant/uneducated) people still think Natsume's games are either HM rip offs or 'not true HM' games, and think Skytree Village is terrible (honestly, you can't judge something before experiencing it) and don't wish to review it for that reason.

Then again, it could because of the reasons you guys stated.

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ollietaro

@LegendOfPokemon I know reviews can be postponed until launch day when games are sent to news sites early but can they be postponed until after launch day? So far I've just been getting impressions of the game through Amazon reviews and googling comments about it. It looks great and its simplicity works in its favour (to me) b/c HM/SoS-proper can seem daunting with the level of complexity. 'Return to Popolocrois: A SoS Fairytale' also had a simple farming interface, which I liked. I would be able to comment more about it when I complete the game.

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Eel

Amazon is a fun place to read reviews for this game.

You get one actual review for every 3 "dis nut da reel harvst mun".

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ollietaro

How is the level of customization here, in regards to terraforming? I understand you can build up or down block-by-block. I only ask b/c I want to be able to mess around with the whole landscape and create a completely trippy place. Can you basically build however you want in the outskirts of the village? Can you add ponds and lakes where there were none before? Is the only limit your imagination when it comes to customizing your farmland?

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Eel

The farm itself is completely yours to customize. The town and other areas are permanent.

You can create ponds and lakes wherever you want, but you must first pull water from an existing source to where you want it.

....

By the way...

Just as I was writing this...

My copy of the game arrived! That was earlier than expected!

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ollietaro

I feel like the people who criticize Skytree negatively sound like they're being inflexible gamers. However, I can't recall a situation where my favourite game franchise was overhauled. However, in this case, fans get SoS proper AND HM (spinoff?). Truth be told, the all-blocks aspect of Minecraft is off-putting b/c even the characters appear in the blocky style but here, only the land is blocky and customize-able which I look upon favourably.

ollietaro

ollietaro

@Meowpheel Nice! And thank you. I would love to see online where people post photos of their creative endeavours in regards to their farms in this game.

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Pokefanmum82

as long as there is a lake nearby you can make your own lakes and ponds. I did that myself. You can make waterfalls bigger or smaller. You can do more once all the skytrees are revived and you have unlocked all the land. I'm on the last two right now

Want: Harvest Moon: One World, Story of Seasons: Pioneering Town, Super Mario 3D World + Bowser’s Fury

Finished the Alola Dex.
Now playing New Horizons, Wrath of White Witch and Sword

ollietaro

@Meowpheel I know. With those reviewers, it's like, are we still on the subject of the naming of the games and who's developing which? It's probably best that people don't know what went on b/c then they will go in without discriminating which one to get. We WANT Natsume to keep making HM games b/c they will get better and better and of course SoS games continue to get localized and their systems will always be complex, for better or for worse.

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ollietaro

@Pokefanmum82 Cool. That's nice to know b/c what if I want to create a waterfall paradise, or something?

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Ryu_Niiyama

@ollietaro Series overhauls are tricky to deal with. And HM/bokumono is pretty unique as the original devs are continuing the series. When you have a full overhaul it is pretty much a "get over it or stop playing" situation and usually...usually the overhaul is considered better or at least it caters to more mainstream tastes. However Bokumono and HM aren't like that. Bokumono is still bokumono but HM is...sorta bokumono but not really? So far it doesn't seem to do things better as a whole than bokumono and it still has to actually go up against bokumono.

Personally I think that Natsume should have used the split to go to console. There hasn't been a Bokumono on consoles since what? Animal Parade? (I'm not counting rune factory...whole other animal) Then they don't have an abject comparison. Plus if they are going back to the series "roots" well that is home console. I will wait for this to drop in price unless the new Bokumono drops before the price does. I do want it to succeed though as I want to see more change within the farming sim genre. For instance like in Stardew Valley. It is a pretty basic formula but it feels right. This is what I don't feel when either playing or watching others play the Natsume HM games.

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