It has to be said that Super Smash Bros. Ultimate has had an extraordinary run. Masahiro Sakurai and his team have overseen an ongoing and hugely hyped project to expand upon the launch roster, through the Fighters Passes, with the second volume's sixth and final character confirmed to be the end of the road.
As you undoubtedly know, this is being revealed tomorrow (5th October) at 7am Pacific / 10am Eastern / 3pm UK / 4pm CEST in a special broadcast that will last around 40 minutes.
When it comes to predicting the final addition - number 82 on the official roster - it feels like all bets are off. The DLC additions in particular have delivered some long-awaited characters that were assumed to be off the board due to logistical issues: Joker, Banjo & Kazooie, Steve / Alex, Kazuya. It seems that almost no franchise is out of bounds, and when a game has been on the go for as long as Ultimate it feels like no character is truly impossible.
Well, to gear up for the excitement we've taken a previous list of ours, made a couple of necessary tweaks and once again ended it all with a poll. So, take a look and let us know who you think will wrap up the line-up.
Ready, then? Fight!
Leon S. Kennedy
Notable game(s): Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil series
For: High recognition factor; Unlike existing characters - potential for unique style; Could be a part of a Resident Evil echo fighter pair - with Claire, maybe?; Fabulous hair.
Against: With guns, knives, blood and creeping zombie flesh, Leon and the Resident Evil series is not exactly kid-friendly (Presidential daughters excepted). Counterpoint: the Metal Gear Solid series has featured genital-based explosives and Snake's still in Smash.
Final Smash: Chainsaw Guy lurches onto the stage and everyone except Leon loses their heads.
Viewtiful Joe
Notable game(s): Viewtiful Joe, Viewtiful Joe 2
For: Crazy style; Already an accomplished fighter who'd fit right in; Sexy Silvia would make a great shadow fighter.
Against: Hasn't starred in a game in a while (not necessarily a problem - kids need an education!)
Final Smash: Joe slows time and proceeds to zip around delivering blow-after-blow until time resumes and the opponent bounces around and off the screen.
Amaterasu
Notable game(s): Okami, Okamiden
For: Cool fighting possibilities with the Celestial Brush; Plenty of combat experience; The sumi-e art style would be a unique addition (imagine the stage).
Against: ... nope, can't think of anything.
Final Smash: Chibiterasu leaps out with the Celestial Brush and plants bombs that blast the opponent into the stratosphere.
Ramirez & Jonesy (Fortnite)
Notable game(s): Fortnite
For: Incredibly recognisable to millions of people; Cartoon style would fit in well; Plenty of echo fighter skins to choose from; Fortnite = still so hot right now, might be forever at this rate.
Against: Are there any? Not really, though he does shout a lot.
Final Smash: After thanking the bus driver three or four thousand times, he finally shows his appreciation of your appreciation by dropping his vehicle from the sky directly on top of your opponent.
Goku
Notable game(s): Dragon Ball FighterZ, Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot and many, many more
For: The most recognisable character from a huge franchise, is actually an amazing martial artist with a whole bunch of flashy moves, and it's a Bandai Namco property (they're big buddies and colleagues of Sakurai-san).
Against: Are there any? Not really, unless you count shouting a lot as a negative.
Final Smash: Leaps up into the clouds while generating a projectile of unfathomable strength, yells very loudly while it absolutely annihilates all in its path.
The Wrestler (Rhythm Heaven)
Notable game(s): Rhythm Heaven Megamix, Rhythm Heaven series
For: A large repertoire of killer moves; Looks great on camera; Would make an excellent addition to the Smash soundtrack vault; Wubba dubba dub, is that true?
Against: Sometimes our desire for a fighter is based solely on who we want to see in amiibo form - this may be one of those times.
Final Smash: Take your pick! Maybe the paparazzi crowd into frame and you "Pose for the fans", blasting everyone from the stage with your powerful pecs. Alternatively, The Chorus Kids arrive and shatter your opponent using their ultrasonic voices.
Mallo
Notable game(s): Pushmo / Pullblox, Crashmo / Fallblox
For: Could create interesting mechanics for a block-filled stage, We haven't seen Mallo on Switch... yet.
Against: Lesser-known cute character would no-doubt invoke 'fan' ire in certain circles.
Final Smash: A wall of blocks appear behind your opponent and Mallo pushes a button. As he's sake on top of the blocks, everyone else is smashed off the stage towards the screen, landing with a splat and sliding down.
Downwell dude
Notable game(s): Downwell
For: Loads of potential in a Downwell stage; Gunboots offer cool offensive moves; Would make an unlikely but brilliant team with Bayonetta; Would go down... well.
Against: A bit one-note?
Final Smash: Downwell dude removes his gunboots and puts them on his opponent. Having no experience with such footwear, they are blasted off the stage to their doom.
Master Chief
Notable game(s): Halo: Combat Evolved, the Halo series
For: Iconic gaming character; Trained in evolved combat.
Against: We've already had massively surprising Microsoft crossovers with B-K and Steve, although Master Chief is very different.
Final Smash: A Warthog speeds onto the stage, the Chief jumps in while it's still moving and ploughs over the opposition to finish the fight.
Dante
Notable game(s): Devil May Cry, Devil May Cry series
For: The DMC games have been getting rereleases on Switch for a while now; A natural fit for Smash.
Against: Yet another sword fighter; Perhaps too similar to existing fighters?
Final Smash: "Let's rock, baby!" Then Virgil, Trish, Lady and the rest dive in. Stylish, explosive violence ensues.
Tetrominos
Notable game(s): Really?
For: A novel addition; Massively iconic; We want to see a T-spin turned into an offensive move.
Against: Tetrominos aren't blessed with an abundance of personality.
Final Smash: A Tetris 99-inspired dumping of lines on top of your opponents, crushing them mercilessly.
The Wonderful 101
Notable game(s): The Wonderful 101
For: A unique addition with plenty of character and potential; Would fit in nicely with a long-rumoured Switch port.
Against: One hell of a technical challenge to implement so many fighters into one 'character'.
Final Smash: The entire 101 morph to form the Unite Hand and flick the stage clean.
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I feel like you left out a certain lawyer...
Not sure why you guys had to follow the memes and put Goku in the list. He will never be in Ultimate or even a Smash game for that matter. He's an anime character not video game.
"Non-specific action figure"
Is going to be the fighter.
Porky from Earthbound
@Blooper987 Alan Dershowitz?
It will be incredible, it will change our lives! Please watch this even if you don't play SSMB!
(it will be another random Fire Emblem character...)
It's a shame the fighter passes have to end. Switch still has plenty of life left
Hmmm... probably sora, crash, jonsey, or walugi. Any other characters would be left field
E.M.M.I
It’ll be a surprise
There have been a lot of completely unexpected surprises with the dlc fighters. At this point, guessing is fun but almost certain to be wrong. Kratos or Darth Maul. Both would be cool characters, wide popularity, and cool new movesets. And frankly the odds of me guessing right are as good or bad as anyone aside from the Smash development team.
@Blooper987 He's even been in a fighting game already, and he's been exclusively on Nintendo systems until the mobile ports of the Trilogy. Seems a shame to consider him (or any of his comrades) out of the running entirely.
Goku in thumbnail = 10/10.
But what about Shrek?
@Zeldawakening As Arlo often says, Nintendo is king of left field.
Sneaky Nintendolife, I had to read the entire thing to to see that waluigi is at the bottom, and he has the best final smash of anyone.
Most of that list is not going to happen at all, or prob not.
I don’t care who it is. I will be playing whoever it ends up being, and it doesn’t matter who they add, since people will still complain because _________ isn’t on the roster.
@GrailUK 2 fighter passes seem enough for the game. Let the devs have some rest as well
Ninten is the only good choice.
Ryu Hayabusa. In my dreams maybe.
If it's a fortnite character, Twitter will no doubt storm Nintendo HQ to protest.
I really hope it's the L-shaped Tetris block
Hype responsibly. I won't be disappointed regardless.
I'd love a Monster Hunter Character. Would be surprised about Master Chief but don't have any expectations.
I know there's mix feelings about swordsman in smash but I would love for Geralt of Rivia to make an appearance
@mariomaster96 This made me chuckle more than it should
There's no possibility that people won't be disappointed.
It's honestly super obvious, guys. Abraham Lincoln from Codename STEAM.
@sanderev I don't think they are being crunched lol. Sure, have a holiday / break, but aren't they unemployed now?
(hehe)
60% of this list reads like satire lol
If it's Crash Bandicoot, Rayman or Waluigi, that'll be great. Either way though, I'm intrigued in finding out who it is and seeing how they play as.
I would REALLY love some Hollow Knight/ Silksong representation. A fighter would be a dream come true, but that's probably not gonna happen. At least I would like a Mii fighter costume.
I want to be surprised.
Seems an unlikely pick at this point, but I still maintain my Smash 4 ballot pick of Professor Layton would be great.
I hope you’re kidding with Fortnite, aka the cringiest game in history. At this point why not include the Among Us character?
In reality, I just hope it will come full circle and include Waluigi as a final Smash fighter
I never even thought about Travis!!! That would make a logical decision, considering his recent outing. Sadly another sword fighter though, but there could be so many zany ultimate smash moves that would raise a smile.
Leon Kennedy would be most epic since the best game of the series -RE4 originated on Gamecube! So he would be an amazing and deserving addition. Second would be Doomguy-it can’t get more badass than that, and lastly Astral Chain- such a phenomenal game with the best Hack and Slash gameplay out there- that would be one visually striking and unique character too-but Sakurai mentioned it would be too hard to have two at the same time since they left the idea with Pyra from Xenoblade. Dante would be a nice surprise even if he is there as a Mii- that could be a nice diversion. I feel like people who ask for Waluigi are just trolling the game- he has no game series no soundtrack-it would end up as such a mediocre addition and the same goes for Crash-is he gonna spin and toss apples? Come on! Compared to characters that can have so many options and weaponry-Like Doomguy, Leon or Dante, Waluigi and Crash don’t compare. BUT how about some n64 characters- James Bond from Goldeneye?!!!!! Or Jet Force Gemini? Swap between 3 characters? They also had a tons of weaponsso it would be a cool addition but not as popular I guess. Leon or Doomguy!!!!! FIGHT!!!!
What about arceus ?
I could bet Hollow Knight will be a mii fighter costume. It is really strange we have no Hollow Knight representation yet.
Regarding the last fighter... All those are cool, but I want an original moveset too, and Crash seems boring, so he is the only one that I hope does not get invited
Paper Mario and Amaterasu have been my biggest wants for a long time, though I think Amaterasu is more likely. I'd love to have the SMT V protag too.
It’s going to be literal Nintendo consoles, from the NES to the Switch, and including the handhelds.
I still insist on Geno.
There are a few on here I would be happy with, but no Phoenix Wright...
OBJECTION!
The can of dog food from Link's Awakening, c'monnnnn
Anyone less than first party for the absolute most anticipated character reveal would seem odd.
please let it be waluigi
Where is my dude Phoenix Wright? I object to this poll. OBJECTION!!!!!!!!!!
Problem with Waluigi is that he will likely be similar to Mario/Luigi/Wario. I know they are different with their own individual moves, but I think for the final Smash character it has to be something shocking and special. Waluigi is fan requested, but I really don't get why - is it just for representation and to complete the set? He's an awesome character, but I wouldn't wanna waste a Smash slot on him. Sorry if I'm offending anyone! Personal choice would be Crash, Phoenix Wright or Master Chief...
You couldn't think of a single "against" for Goku? Here's a big one - He's not a damn video game character. He's an anime character who happens to be in a ton of video games. Every single character in Smash originated in a video game. The closest we have to a character that isn't from a video game is R.O.B. That's a rule that should not be broken. No Goku.
I can not believe that Goku is on here. All characters have to be video game characters in origin, and that's not a fan rule, that's Sakurai's rule himself.
Anyway, I really want Amaterasu. But I know it's not happening. =(
Waluigi
Impa
Travis Touchdown
Amaterasu
Ace Attorney
Lara Croft
Leon Kennedy
Professor Layton
Crash
Rayman
In that order. Not too bothered about the rest though they'd be fun assist trophies and Mii costumes
The mention of Goku really seems to rile people up, lol.
Betting on a big Nintendo character.
Master Hand.
I would love to see professor layton in smash, amaterasu and rayman would also be great additions!
I voted for Amaterasu, but almost went for Sora or Rayman. I have a feeling it won't be any of them, but I can't be disappointed with Smash getting Banjo-Kazooie
I personally want Akria because I really enjoyed Astral Chain. I won't be too mad if Akira doesn't get in though. I really wanted a Xenoblade 2 rep and I already got it so I'm satisfied lol.
Is it out of the question that Kratos shows up? Being kind of an ambassador for Sony and Playstation seeing everyone are friends and all. Maybe Sackboy?
I think they’ll show multiple characters.
Absolutely zero clue, but the way they are talking about it, it sounds like it could break conventions. Iirc, sakurai basically deconfirmed goku or mickey or whoever else, because they want to focus on characters who are purely from video games.
The "let your imagination run wild" comment could be a clue to a potential botw character, or it just means what it means. That said, this should be an unexpected one, so here's some more off-the-wall guesses:
-Carmen Sandiego
-Kraid
-Blaster Master tank(whatever its called)
-Battle Toads
-Bonk
-Fortnite rep
-Toad, but he is a Mario Kart rep
-Monster Hunter rep
-Goomba
King Hippo would have been a great echo fighter for K Rool
WaPeach. Come on Ninty, don't let us down...
Satoru Iwata, because the series also wouldn't exist without him.
(I don't think they'll really do this)
Have to ask as I’m not a smash bros fan at all. Presumably fans have been playing for a few years and have they’re favourite fighter to play with. Does a new fighter make them drop that one in favour of a new one? Is there anyone out there who would buy this game just based on this new fighter? Xxx
@UmbreonsPapa Even more than Goku riles me up, my roommate's biggest desire for Smash is... Ken Griffey, Jr., star MLB player and namesake of Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball '94 for SNES. He wants that Ken Griffey, Jr. in Smash. Like, the living human being. Drives me absolutely up the wall hahahaha
Went with Waluigi, but I would be happy to see Paper Mario or Alucard as well. (Or someone from Chrono Trigger.)
Waluigi is *****.
The only reason people want him is they think theyre being hilariously ironic.. when in reality - just following the herd
It better be Waluigi!
It's Sakurai himself. Hype responsibly
I'm okay with anything, as long as it's not some new age hype character (like Fortnite). And even then, I have the freedom to just not care.
@Clammy No. I want him because he's in a ton of Nintendo games, and there's a lot of room for creativity in his moveset by basing it on all the Nintendo party games. All sorts of sports-based attacks, references to Mario Party - imagine an up smash where he hits a dice block! - a dash attack where he hops in a kart, and for the final smash, a Mario Strikers special goal kick. It's way beyond "ha ha funny purple man". I really think he'd be a ton of fun.
I voted Waluigi because he's way more likely than the characters I -really- want, and it'd make a lot of people happy. ^^
Regarding the Downwell guy, his name is Welltaro and he's already going to be in a platform fighter - he was one of the first characters revealed for the Fraymakers game!
As for who I actually want, I'd love Jibanyan or Jonesy, but I really don't care at this point. I'll take anyone.
Whoever they pick, people will be pissed.
It won't be Waluigi strictly so they can make him a launch character in whatever the next Smash Bros game is for the Switch sequel console five years from now or whatever.
@GrailUK I think it’s best we let the devs rest, they’ve already probably gotten tons of sleepless nights, and all good things must come to and end, this isn’t a thing about the switch’s lifespan, it’s about smash, how much is too much? It came out on 2018 and I’m pretty satisfied, it would be amazing to get more, but this might just be sad end…for now at least
It does seem like it should be someone big/meaningful, but in a weird Nintendo way. More in line with the surprise characters like ROB and Game & Watch. Even Duck Hunt Dog and Piranha Plant.
I wonder if Sakurai goes back to Smash Bros origins and serves up a fighter from Dragon King.
But I agree with others, people will be upset no matter who it is.
@MH4 Thought Welltaro was gonna be in Rivals Of Aether
Dante won’t be in smash because he is a mii fighter
Crash. Bandicoot. He's one of the only characters who makes sense. If he's in Ultimate, then the trio will finally be complete.
No matter how many times they say characters that haven't originated from video games won't be in smash, they always put Goku somewhere on the list.
It will probably be someone no one cared about but will say "actually, that is not bad" once they see the gameplay.
@GamingBread A good half of the characters on this list make sense. Who is this "trio" you're talking about, though?
Another Zelda character would be my top choice, maybe Impa??
But of the given options, I think Crash is most likely, though I voted for Rayman, and wouldn't mind Waluigi finally being given his due...
It won't be, but SHOULD be Kunio- Kun!!!
That kid's been brawling in games for decades now.
i really have no idea if it'll be 1st party/3rd party, someone shocking/popular, or a rep from the new fire emblem three house 2 game they wanna announce
Seeing Goku and Fortnite on this list just made me barf. Come on, DBZ is not even good anime anymore. Why didn’t you put Shrek too?
Cringe
@Flashlink99 Popular /= cringe
Come on man, this isn’t middle school lmao. How old are you?
@Bret agreed
James bond from Golden eyes with remote mines, grenade launcher and the golden gun as final smash. They also announce that the n64 games will be on the n64 online service!
Sakurai has released a statement suggesting it's someone who we won't expect......?
I'm dreaming on a Goku amiibo ... so let's go Kakaroth!!!
@LEGEND_MARIOID
Add Zagreus to that list and you would have my perfect list of future candidates!
I'd want Waluigi to be expanded on in a non multiplayer oriented game before he makes it to smash bros personally.
It's gonna be Marina Liteyears from Mischief Makers. I mean why not.
Please no Fortnite, please please please
Maybe Skull Kid?
What if it's a minion to tie in with the movie?
L-shape Tetris obviously.
Okay, so hear me out...
Yes to Goku, but its specifically Kid Goku from the NES DragonBall game, so all your attacks are based off of the nimbus cloud and power pole.
A Resident Evil character would be perfect. Lots of history with Nintendo and there’s no horror rep yet (Luigi doesn’t count).
Calling it now. Birdo from Super Mario 2
I could see Captain Rainbow being a likely possibility... what with them saying let our imaginations go wild... but with that same statement it really could be anyone...
Has anyone suggested Geno yet?
For the love of God just don't make it a jrpg character, as someone who doesn't care about the genre the fighters pass has been one suckerpunch after the other
If there was a rhythm heaven rep it should be Karate Joe. Either him, Chibi Robo, Paper Mario or Mike Jones would get my vote.
Considering Waluigi is the only one on this poll, apart from Paper Mario, he got my vote.
Shrek
From Shrek
Either Master Hand or a character nobody has ever laid eyes on from an upcoming game
This article just reminded me that I’d seriously love a new pushmo on switch…
I don't see Goku or Master Chef even being in the running. The former is a Manga character and the latter has nothing to do with Nintendo at all. I would be very happy to see Travis but I think his train has passed already. Maybe the protag dude from Shin Megami Tensei 5?
I have a feeling this is going to be something quite extraordinary and very different from the expected ones.
My guess: Ironman (yep, with the Avengers and everything else)
Good list of most of what seems to be popular Smash Bros. character requests... IMO it's missing:
lol... but if I haaad to vote for the last spot I guess I'd pick Crash or Waluigi.
I really hope Nintendo keeps adding Smash characters and can get it up to 100 fighters somehow... even if someone other than Mr. Sakurai has to lead it as he wants and needs a break, understandably. But admittedly that's a lot for continued DLC, so it's more likely to reach that amount for the next installment, 'Smash Supreme' or something.
... Wun can only hope.
Somebody boring and generic. That’s who.
I just hope it's a first party Nintendo character
Any character from golden sun, Isaac would be the best but he's already an assist trophy... One of the summons as the final smash would be just epic...
Seeing the list, Sakurai statement...
It's a Fortnite character.
Could have an interesting moveset, but it will blow up the Internet, not in a good way.
@kducky11 Triggered much? The community is outright obnoxious and I don’t think a great shooter lets you play with Neymar and Ryu for Christ Sake… it’s a pop-culture dump and you know it
Your first page choices are crap. Your second page choices are good.
Goku doesn't come from games so he ain't coming.
I'm gonna play it safe and say it will be E.M.M.I.
Q*bert... but Sakurai doesn’t like retro Western characters 😢
I remember the excitement back in the day when a newcomer could seemingly be anyone... now they feel more like commercials for games. 😞
My man Waluigi is being taken seriously :')
Tbh... the character was likely chosen and settled on long ago, like even before the Fighter Pass was announced... something to keep in mind peeps! Prepare to be whelmed.
Great game regardless! Hope the additions continue somehow!
The final character is Tabuu, the final boss from Brawl. And with the final update comes the sequel to Subspace Emissary.
It's going to be The Man himself. The announcement will be: CREATOR SAKS UP!
@BlubberWhale I don't really agree with this at all. Only a few fighters have really felt like ads (Corrin, Byleth, Pyra/Mythra). If the newest character is from SMT V or something that hasn't come out yet or is super new, that would feel like an ad, but I really doubt that'll happen.
Cannot express how disappointed I would be it it were Goku. I’d take another Fire emblem character over Goku. I’d take the removal of existing characters over Goku.
Please don't be Waluigi, please don't be Waluigi
@Ogbert Hahahaha hell yeah. The last character is Dark Pit being removed from the roster.
Glad to see you put Akira on this list as its one of my top 3 guesses. My other ones are Aloy from HZD and Jessie from Control. But now that Ive seen this list Id love to see tomb raider in the game.
It's going to be either Crash Bandicoot or, and he comes from a company that's really been helping out Nintendo recently, Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden.
I just know it's going to be Ryu Hayabusa.
@mario-from-mario-64 Because the character might not be a mainstream popular character for all we know.
Reject humanity, return to Tetrominos.
At this point I don't really care about the who, but the when.
Though from these proposals, I'd like Paper Mario (he's hardly the same as regular Mario), Cuphead/Mugman or Rayman.
Master Chief doesn't fit all, so I'm not sure why is he there... For matter fact, I guarantee you that the Smash fanbase will be pretty disappointed and underwhelm (more that usual) if after all this time that character is the final one.
Like "...give me break we wait all this time for this generic spaceman soldier to the be the last character in Smash. A character with the personally of a rock and that has zero appeal-relevance with Japanese audience and Nintendo in general..."
@Bret
Fair. Some do, some don’t. I was just being emotional. 😉
@BlubberWhale I'm curious what other characters feel ad-like to you though!
I'd be surprised if they don't end this with Waluigi. But it could be fun with some sort of reveal and tie in with a game surprisingly releasing on Switch (Perfect Dark, Chrono Trigger, Mother 3).
I wonder if it will be… none of the characters on the above list.
I get the feeling there’s gonna be a lot of upset people…
Simply because it’s impossible to satisfy everyone’s most wanted character
I love how Waluigi is still requested by almost a quarter of voters!
Honestly, it has to be him. He’d be a perfect fit and at this point he’s definately more than Wario’s necessary sidekick - have some mercy Mr. Sakurai!
And in all seriousness, please for the love of god, don‘t include another sword fighter.
The last couple og announcements were mostly disappointing to me, so I'm not hoping for anything amazing.
I'm hoping for a first party rep.
Still going for Rabbid Peach or a random Pokémon
I kinda hope it is some obscure Japan only character that few in the west have heard of. Or a FE character. Let the lulz begin...
Edit: I’ll throw my wishlist in for giggles: Impa, Urbosa, Joe Musashi and Midna. I feel like it will be Monster Hunter though.
@Bret I'm talking about Sonic, Mario, and Crash.
Maybe it will be Sakurai himself, and his final smash is he just programs your opponents out of the game.
Lol i actually think it will be none of this list.
I have a feeling nintendo is reviving an old character and they will promote him in smash lol. And announce after that a new game is in the making 😂
@GamingBread I don't think Crash is on the same level of recognition as those other two. Nobody is really in the same realm as Mario. My parents could describe Mario perfectly and probably do an impression. Sonic not so much, and Crash they wouldn't even recognize.
Nahobino or Monster Hunter would be great.
@Blooper987 Bah! You're right. Oh well, my apologies, that is a genuine clanger on my part.
If I could pick absolutely any character in the world for Smash, it would be Kool-Aid Man. He got an Atari 2600 and Intellivision games and just imagine him smashing through brick walls with the flying bricks hitting his opponents.
The Undertaker.
What if it was Sakuna...?
Amaterasu heralding an Okami 2 announcement on the stream would be my dream. But we all know it's going to be another Fire Emb-- I mean, ahem, another obscure fighting game character.
Does anyone think we could see a Marvel character enter?
Ring fit or Rabbids )))
Still keeping my fingers crossed that everyone's favorite spiky-haired defense attorney from Capcom gets in.
I'm of course talking about Apollo Justice. (No obviously I mean Nick.)
Thank you very much for compiling a list of characters that will not get in. This narrows down the list some.
Bren McGuire from Turrican
It will be the greatest gaming accessory of all time
The Power Glove
( unless it’s been added already and I missed it, been awhile since I played )
DR EGGMAN would be an amazing fit. Isnt sonic celebrating a huge anni this year?
@KeltonA No. They're not video game characters, they're comic book characters that are in video games. Exact same reason we won't see Goku.
Kind of hard to tell if this is supposed to be legit when there's plenty of moments that would suggest otherwise (like putting Goku despite the obvious or forgetting that Chorus Kids were actual Smash candidates).
I can't believe that most people want a character without any proper game, personality or anything to actually consider him worth something. Waluigi would be such a waste of space, but hey, I guess if that what makes people happy then there's not much to do. Worst part is that it does have a legit chance of happening.
Also, I'm a huge Dragon Ball fan, but Goku couldn't be more out of place than he would be in Smash.
My list would include
Ratchet and clank
Crash
Spyro
Master chief
Tamagotchi
Jonesy
All major video game icons
sigh
And THIS, people, is why we don’t overspeculate. I’ll just keep my hopes low and keep betting on my boy from the Mega Man Zero series (hint - his name is in the title).
@nessisonett That was fantastic, I sitting by myself but still did an audible laugh.
Fury from Darksiders 3, she's cool (no in fact she's hot, but you know what I mean).
Iwata would be class.
Or a wild card, Ivan from Devil's Third
travis touchdown 1% rise up
Sakurai is for sure getting an outfit & final smash as an unlockable character
@AuDiu5 Gerald is a book character
@roy130390 It doesn't matter that Waluigi "doesn't have a proper game". Wii Fit Trainer is in the game, and Wii Fit is more of an app than a "game", while Waluigi is in almost every party game. Same for the Miis, they come from apps, not games, at least until Miitopia, but that came out after the Mii Fighters. Daisy especially is in the same boat Waluigi is. She was the princess in Super Mario Land 1 for the game boy, and then disappeared until Mario Tennis, Waluigi's first appearance.
And personality is an even sillier argument. R.O.B is a peripheral, he's got as much "personality" as a VR headset. Waluigi's got more than enough established personality to flesh out a Smash character. Or are you really going to argue that a character like the Ice Climbers have more personality?
Couldn't agree more with you on Goku, though. Also a huge Dragonball fan here.
I keep forgetting about Okami, honestly, I'd be fine with Ammy.
But also, why is everyone forgetting about Rayman? I keep saying that he'd fit in Smash perfectly, if you'd played Origins or Legends you would know why.
My money's on video game legend Nick Clegg.
Master Chief, Crash, or Goku.
am i the only one who wants the angry birbs in smash
ik angry birds aint a likely franchise, but it could happen
but if it isnt going to be in smash then, tails or rayman
or waluigi
How about Leon Kennedy teaming up with Dante as 2in1 fighter:) both Capcom and that would make go people go 😜
Alucard
Ryu Hyabusa
Chun Li
Batman
Liquid Snake
Optimus Prime
Darth Vader
The lady that says “where’s the beef?”
Joanna Dark
Then a follow up announcement of Xbox/Switch games.
@ElectroBird108 well, Angry Birds are at least a video game character, so they have a better shot than Goku. but no.
@Bret It doesn't matter to you, but it does matter to me and I bet that it also matters to other people. About the Wii Fit trainer argument... you do realize that I'm not saying that I like her right? (I don't) Still, that avatar is the representative of it's "app" or whatever thing you wanna call it, which is something Waluigi doesn't even accomplish.
I honestly don't care if you find my reasons dumb but for the sake of a civilized discussion let's not make it personal by insulting other opinions. As for personality, it's a trait to consider, but not a definitive one and R.O.B again, isn't a character that I like being there just as with the Wii Fit trainer, but at least the face of something so it's the Wii Fit Trainer situation all over again. Waluigi has nothing at all going for him because he isn't a representative of any game/app/device and he lacks the personality and representation that other secondary characters of other franchises have.
It's pretty funny because you chose all the characters that I would remove from the roster along with Waluigi, you only missed Piranha plant. If I mentioned those characters as positives then it would make sense to find my opinion contradictory and silly but it doesn't because I actually think that those shouldn't qualify either and they still have (arguably) more going on for them than Waluigi.
ET, from Atari's ET
The people that vote for Waluigi certainly have blind fate hahaha. The real answer is: NONE OF THE MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLE.
@Joeynator3000 Actually, he was on the 2nd page. (They have 2 pages if that's what you mean by forget.) Generally, I wish people would care for Rayman more than they do. Like how can he hardly ever end up in rankings on like youtube and stuff or at least older ones.
Love the idea of Goku and Tetris as fighters. Good suggestions.
Captain Toad please. It won't happen but someone has to mention him after almost 200 comments.
@Bret that is true
If it's one of the Fortnite characters, I'm going to have a stroke
i forgot to take a look at the second page, cuphead is already in smash as a mii costume, but we gotta get a mugman mii costume too
@Flashlink99 You realize you’re commenting under an article about Smash, a crossover game too, right? Lmao
Considering the timing, I think the EMMI robots from Metroid Dread, sounds like a good idea to me. But it's not on the list, so I voted for the Tetrominos.
Didn't Sakurai create Kirby?
Didn't he say our good ole Kirbanator is the main character of the Smash lore??
Doesn't the game open and end with Kirbs???
As such, might it be a fitting end to end this saga of Smash with a KERBY character?!?!?!?
... especially with the new Kirby and the Forgotten Lands game on the horizon early next year... I just don't know whomst... Maybe Magalor? 🤔💭
I wouldn't be mad at another Kirby addition because King Dedede is my main and favourite character and also it fits to end it with a Nintendo property. Either way great game! So long and Kirbye!
The Ryu Hayabusa disrespect makes me a sad panda
In a perfect world it would be a blocky James Bond or Sakurai
@ElectroBird108 angry birds would be a good representation for mobile games (the good ones anyway)
@arnoldfranklin
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...How did I miss that? :/ lol
Article is ignoring the downside that Goku can't be in Smash as he doesn't originate in a video game. Sakurai has said this in the past - only video game ORIGINAL characters.
Considering that new tweet, its probably gonna be someone lame. As long as they're fun to play against i guess it doesn't really matter.
Master Chief because MS let Rare games going to Ninty as part of a deal? If not, I wonder why MS did this, except it will bring money to their war chest of course but good there be something for us gamers or is it just about the money?
Goku
Against: Are there any? Not really, unless you count shouting a lot as a negative.
Are we forgetting Sakurai said in a 2019 interview that the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's final season of DLC, Goku and the rest of the Z Fighters coming to Ultimate just isn't happening? Or is NLife just stupid?
And the last smash character will be...Masahiro Sakurai himself!
Crash Final smash Will include Nitro / TNT crates, Or the wumpa zooka if that is not part of his standard moveset
Lol can you imagine how salty everyone would be if it was another fire emblem character?
Wow even Nintendolife has given up on Geno
For the last time, Goku CANNOT be in Smash because he did not originate as a video game character.
@SwitchVogel I'd laugh my ass off.
@Edwirichuu Nah, the only official guest characters in RoA are Shovel Knight and Ori & Sein. You're probably thinking of the fact that both Welltaro and Orcane (from RoA) are both in Fraymakers' base roster.
I want my boy Tails in Smash.
We already got Sephiroth so there is hope for more than one character from the same third-party IP that isn't just an Echo Fighter.
Lara Croft is certainly a possibility. Definitely more so than Master Cheif who has never been in a game on a Nintendo console. That has been a cast iron rule so far.
Something obscure?
How about tempura wizard.
@LavaTwilight I suggested Geno some time ago.
My most-wanted character who hasn't been ruled out by other characters from this pass would be Gordon Freeman, although I know he has no chance of getting in. Crash, Claire/Leon, Doomguy, Impa, Rayman, Bandana Dee, and the Elite Beat Agents/Ouendan cheerleaders would all be great picks, too. Elma (Xenoblade X), Terra (Final Fantasy VI), and Neku (The World Ends With You) are my top 3, but between Pyra/Mythra and Sephiroth, they aren't happening.
@Dragonslacker1 I've personally switched mains twice since the game released: once for Hero, and then again for Mythra. If someone's favorite character gets added, odds are they'll pick up that character. Of course, there's also nothing saying you can't enjoy playing as multiple characters. I still like to play as Hero, Zelda, Cloud, and plenty of others. Smash is a celebration of video game history, so a lot of people have attachments to many playable characters in the game.
My perennial pick is and always will be Krystal from Star Fox. Not only is she my favorite video game character of all time, tied with Samus Aran, we need more Star Fox representation, and it would be neat to have a staff fighter thrown into the fray (no, Palutena doesn't count, as her "staff" is a scepter, and she primarily uses it for ranged magical attacks, not melee attacks like Krystal's staff is designed for).
i hope its doomslayer he deserves to be in smash.
Mickey Mouse
Porky is my dream pick. I don't see it happening in a million years, but it'd be amazing.
For everyone who says Goku won't make it into Smash, keep in mind that nobody expected Banjo, Cloud, or Steve to make it in.
How many Mortal Kombat players expected the Alien or Predator in MK X?
My point is, nothing is totally impossible no matter how many Sakurai quotes people toss around.
Since Cloud dropped as DLC in Smash 4, I have learned to expect the unexpected because almost every DLC fighter has been someone that was different from all the leaks and predictions.
Goku is unlikely, but he's not impossible. If Nintendo, Namco Bamdai, Toei, and other companies want him in because they see him printing money, I don't see anything stopping him.
Also, Goku's Final Smash would be the Spirit Bomb.
Upon activation, a short cut scene plays where Goku gathers energy from his allies to form a Spirit Bomb then drops it on everyone.
@Caryslan
Well expect to be disappointed if you truly believe Goku has a chance to be the final Smash Ultimate character.
Maybe he’ll be in the next Smash Bros.
i bet it’s crash bandicoot
@Caryslan All of those are characters that come from games. Goku appears in games of the franchise and anime related stuff, but he originates from manga.
I love Goku, I'm about to spend I don't know how much on an overprized SSJ4 from Figuarts as soon as it's available in my country. I play Dragon Ball Legends almost religiously and I've been a fan since I was 5-6 (31 now), when Dragon Ball first aired, but he really doesn't fit in Smash.
I'm not saying that you can't make the character from a mechanical perspective, because any character can be adapted in that regard. This just isn't his place, and I think that despite being one of my most beloved characters, there's tons of others that fit more and deserve it more as they make "sense" if you get what I'm saying. It may not be impossible, but I certainly hope that it doesn't happen and to clarify there's no ill will against those who do.
Recent convert here. Toree for Smash!
Maybe it will be Ai-Ai because banana mania is about to come out
Whoever it is, at least it'll finally be over.
"Well, to gear up for the excitement we've taken a previous list of ours, made a couple of necessary tweaks and once again ended it all with a poll."
Could probably have done with a few more tweaks, because you have 'already a Mii costume' listed as a con for Cuphead, but not for Dante.
On a more general point, you guys could also make a little more effort for cons in general. The amount of times it's basically 'nothing' is a bit ridiculous, especially for characters like Goku who have a pretty big point against them (not originating from a video game).
As for who I'd like to see, unrealistically, I'd still say Sora (if for no other reason than to have KH music in Smash), but realistically, Crash Bandicoot would be nice.
That said, I'd probably be fine with anyone, as long as it isn't a Fortnite or meme character (Goku, Waluigi, Shrek, etc.).
I think the final character should be a Gameboy. its how nintendo started the portable gaming market.
My personal wish is for Ryu Hayubusa from Ninja Gaiden to join Mega Man and Simon Belmont in the trifecta of great 3rd party NES franchises. Phoenix Wright would be awesome too. Probably won’t happen though.
My actual picks in order of likeliness are: Crash, Waluigi, Paper Mario, Master Chief, Pauline, Ryu Hayubusa, Sakurai
Ryza from Atelier Ryza!
@kducky11 Yeah, a crossover with gaming characters in a brawling game, with a cohesive design and has at least some rules when it comes to introducing new characters (being a character who originated in a video game mainly, and nothing else). Meanwhile, Fortnite introduces whatever is trendy at the moment, Neymar being the most recent example I can think of, which doesn’t even make sense. Not to mention all the weird events Epic introduces into, like Travis Scott’s concert last year or whatever was supposed to be that screening of MLK’s “Dream” speech, which basically make Fortnite resembling something more of a Second Life spiritual successor, and not the innovative battle royale shooter it was supposed to be in the beginning.
@Blooper987 Super DMCA-Man isn't a videogame character... Ooooohhh you meant... Wright.
Crash is my most wanted. I've got my fingers crossed it can still happen. After they wrecked my boy Dante, I would still take Leon Kennedy, because he's a straight up legend, and Doom Guy or Ryu Hayabusa would seriously not go unappreciated.
Here's hoping!
Ryo Hazuki or Joanna Dark!
For a second I thought Waluigi wouldn't be on the list but was happily surprised to see him there at the end. If he is the fighter I will purchase that DLC pack 100% and I don't even play smash
If it's anything less than budda, sun wukong, or the judaeo-christian God I will be disatisfied.
@Dilly-Mick HA
Wonderful 101 " Would fit in nicely with a long-rumoured Switch port."
Looks at shelf with a physical game of Wonderful 101 for Switch...!?
Optimus Prime would be a nice addition, with a Megatron Alt
When was this written? Wonderful 101 rumored switch port? Ive had it for switch for like a year?
The final character will be Masahiro Sakurai himself.
Finally It’s waluigi!
WHERE IS PHOENIX WRIGHT?!
I know it's a long shot, but since Dark souls remastered is on Switch maybe it'll be Artorias or Solaire?
@AuDiu5 Geralt originated from books,not a game character.
What about if Shigeru Miyamoto or Sakurai is the final DLC fighter? Final Smash being the Master Hand!
why is Goku on the list when Sakurai made it absolutely clear that non-game characters would not be included?
Are Generic White Lady and Generic White Dude really the main characters in Fortnite? I thought it was more creative than that
My daughter says it’s gonna be Princess and the frog.
@roy130390 I was reading your comment as if you were declaring that the lack of a "Waluigi game" meant he wouldn't be eligible, not just a personal distaste for him. Sorry for coming at you harshly.
Chao from the Sonic games. Can transform into hero, devil and chaos form.
Confirmed - Masahiro Sakurai will be inserting himself as the last fighter!
It could be Sakuri himself.
See you all at the live blog!
@Bret No problem mate.
it's Sora ya'll!
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