Zaphod_Beeblebrox wrote:

LordTendoboy wrote:

I'll wait for the final Iwata Asks after the system is released.

Not sure what you mean. You asked for the source of the quote PvtMatata posted. It's on page 5 of that Iwata Asks ("Wii U and The Wii Remote").

Anyway, you're welcome.

LordTendoboy wrote:

abHS4L wrote:

The thing with the Move is that it requires the camera, you have to stand in front of it and all that jazz. The set up for the Move and Kinect are far more tedious than the Wii Motion Plus. Place the WiiMote on a flat surface for a couple of seconds and you're all set, doesn't matter the area you're in which makes it far more appealing than the other two. I own a Kinect and almost never play it because of the amount of set up it requires (too much crap in my house makes for little space )

The other problem with the Move is that it's a pain to re-calibrate. You have to:
1. Point the controller at the camera and press the Move button
2. Raise your arm at your shoulder, press the Move button again
3. Put your arm down at your side, press the Move button again
4. Hold the controller at your waist, press the Move button again

That's 3 steps too many. You'd think that simply pointing the controller at the camera would calibrate it properly, but NO.

sinalefa wrote:

I still don't get why so many people seem to downplay Wii Sports Resort. As we have been told by Nintendo's head honchos, that game made possible the swordfighting in Skyward Sword, while other activities like Table Tennis are very well implemented.

Anyway, since all the new wiimotes are Wiimote plus, there is no need for Nintendo to go back to the original design, specially when it is a lot less accurate than the PS Move.

An interesting question would be how many new games would use the Wiimote instead of the tablet, or if the Wii U will include a Wiimote and a nunchuck in addition to its default controller.

John-John wrote:

Also, I hear this complaint often, there aren't any good games for the Kinect. Like, apparently there's been a dry spell since its release.

abHS4L wrote:

Like the title states, I'm wondering since the Wii Motion Plus really didn't have that many games that utilized it and did it well (Skyward Sword and Red Steel 2 are the only 2 games that come to mind), should and would Nintendo make all their future motion based games require the Wii Motion Plus? .

LordTendoboy wrote:

You could say the same thing about the PS Move, but Sony and a few 3rd-party companies are implementing the Move's pointer controls in their FPS games.

stromboli wrote:

abHS4L wrote:

Like the title states, I'm wondering since the Wii Motion Plus really didn't have that many games that utilized it and did it well (Skyward Sword and Red Steel 2 are the only 2 games that come to mind), should and would Nintendo make all their future motion based games require the Wii Motion Plus? .

The only use of Motion Plus is basically that - swordplay. Wii Motion probably found all the other ways. You could use it with baseball, but Wii Sports already showed that was possible without, but I guess it's true that it can be successfully used for sports, like Golf. People don't realize that Motion Plus doesn't make the motion more accurate - the wii remote is accurate enough, it just adds that spiraling possibility, the turning of the wrist 1:1. Outside swordplay and sports, and the quirky stuff Nintendo comes up with, I can't see its use, and that's why there weren't many games using it. Because it's specifically designed for things that resemble handling swords.

abHS4L wrote:

stromboli wrote:

abHS4L wrote:

Like the title states, I'm wondering since the Wii Motion Plus really didn't have that many games that utilized it and did it well (Skyward Sword and Red Steel 2 are the only 2 games that come to mind), should and would Nintendo make all their future motion based games require the Wii Motion Plus? .

The only use of Motion Plus is basically that - swordplay. Wii Motion probably found all the other ways. You could use it with baseball, but Wii Sports already showed that was possible without, but I guess it's true that it can be successfully used for sports, like Golf. People don't realize that Motion Plus doesn't make the motion more accurate - the wii remote is accurate enough, it just adds that spiraling possibility, the turning of the wrist 1:1. Outside swordplay and sports, and the quirky stuff Nintendo comes up with, I can't see its use, and that's why there weren't many games using it. Because it's specifically designed for things that resemble handling swords.

Not really, the WIi Motion Plus allowed for true movement to be recognized. The Wiimote could detect speed and motion, but only in a generalized direction. It's not saying that all games have to use the Wii Plus tech, but one way Nintendo can really grab the casual market is by making their games more realistic in terms of movement, even sports games could benefit because with the added benefit of having buttons, playing more hardcore games has its clear advantages over Kinect titles. I mean my dad plays Kinect Sports and when he plays the ping pong game, he holds a Wiimote because he feels silly playing without anything in his hand. For Wii Sports, my dad didn't even have to stand to play (even though he claimed he plays these games to work out XD) since the motion detection capabilities of the Wiimote didn't require him to stand. Had it been 1:1, then like the Kinect, he'd have to stand up and truly copy what is on the screen.

Yes, swordplay is right now the best use of the WIi Plus, but there is a lot of potential and developers just need to figure it out. I mean even mini game compilations could be vastly improved if they used it also since it'd really create a lot of variety instead of doing similar motions for different games.

LordTendoboy wrote:

abHS4L wrote:

stromboli wrote:

abHS4L wrote:

Like the title states, I'm wondering since the Wii Motion Plus really didn't have that many games that utilized it and did it well (Skyward Sword and Red Steel 2 are the only 2 games that come to mind), should and would Nintendo make all their future motion based games require the Wii Motion Plus? .

The only use of Motion Plus is basically that - swordplay. Wii Motion probably found all the other ways. You could use it with baseball, but Wii Sports already showed that was possible without, but I guess it's true that it can be successfully used for sports, like Golf. People don't realize that Motion Plus doesn't make the motion more accurate - the wii remote is accurate enough, it just adds that spiraling possibility, the turning of the wrist 1:1. Outside swordplay and sports, and the quirky stuff Nintendo comes up with, I can't see its use, and that's why there weren't many games using it. Because it's specifically designed for things that resemble handling swords.

Not really, the WIi Motion Plus allowed for true movement to be recognized. The Wiimote could detect speed and motion, but only in a generalized direction. It's not saying that all games have to use the Wii Plus tech, but one way Nintendo can really grab the casual market is by making their games more realistic in terms of movement, even sports games could benefit because with the added benefit of having buttons, playing more hardcore games has its clear advantages over Kinect titles. I mean my dad plays Kinect Sports and when he plays the ping pong game, he holds a Wiimote because he feels silly playing without anything in his hand. For Wii Sports, my dad didn't even have to stand to play (even though he claimed he plays these games to work out XD) since the motion detection capabilities of the Wiimote didn't require him to stand. Had it been 1:1, then like the Kinect, he'd have to stand up and truly copy what is on the screen.

Yes, swordplay is right now the best use of the WIi Plus, but there is a lot of potential and developers just need to figure it out. I mean even mini game compilations could be vastly improved if they used it also since it'd really create a lot of variety instead of doing similar motions for different games.

You know if he got a PS Move, he'd get that same motion control experience, with the added benefit of having a controller and buttons. The PS Move combines a camera with a motion sensing controller, offering the best of both worlds (so to speak), It's also much more accurate than the Kinect and Wii Remote, in my experience.

Eureka wrote:

I saw my sister play with the Move on her PS3 before....it seemed somewhat glitchy. >.>