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61. Posted:

I'd probably go SNES > N64 >>>>> NES

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62. Posted:

I have to say N64, personally.
SNES is also a great choice. I think the SNES is backwards compatible with NES games.

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So, I was plugging away at Mario 64 just a while ago on my smaller SDTV/retro set up and y'ouch!.....The N64 has aged even worse than i though it would. For the most part, even then 3D PS1 and N64 games were an absolute eye sore with a few or so notable exceptions(Resident Evil, Jumping Flash! Banjotooie, Yoshi's Story ect) sprinkled here and there. even then they were at times boarderline lifeless, with their blurry textured, low polygon characters and barren environments and much more so now. I feel like unhooking my N64 and throwing it in Storage for crying out cowabunga. :P Anybody else on the same page?

Mario 64 is one of the 'better' looking N64 games and it still plays wonderfully, but....like the PS1 and Saturn era/generation, first wave 3D games just leave a horrible taste in my mouth. it brings back both good and bad memories. It was the beginning of the end for gaming, and it all happened during the mid to awful late 90's, not exactly a high time for moizy, coupled with dealing with the akward teenage years! :P

After the bitter bogus taste that was cruising around in my Mega dooder' mouth, i flipped on Super Mario World and i was instantly trasported into the wonderful world of NintenHeaven. :D I have no real desire to even build a N64 collection....It was cutting edge during it's day and i'd like to remember those games how they were during the time. I still wouldn't mind getting Zelda MM, OOT and maybe Golden Eye 007. But other than that, no thanks!
I really like the controller, introduction to the analog stick(PS1's loose twin sticks were terrible in comparison) and inclusion of the rumble pack, plus fully scoped worlds, but that's were the love pretty much ends.

The N64 is the awkward, pimply, teenager of all the Nintendo Consoles. I'd rather just leave it as a memory.

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64. Posted:

WaveBoy wrote:

So, I was plugging away at Mario 64 just a while ago on my smaller SDTV/retro set up and y'ouch!.....The N64 has aged even worse than i though it would. For the most part, even then 3D PS1 and N64 games were an absolute eye sore with a few or so notable exceptions(Resident Evil, Jumping Flash! Banjotooie, Yoshi's Story ect) sprinkled here and there. even then they were at times boarderline lifeless, with their blurry textured, low polygon characters and barren environments and much more so now. I feel like unhooking my N64 and throwing it in Storage for crying out cowabunga. :P Anybody else on the same page?

Mario 64 is one of the 'better' looking N64 games and it still plays wonderfully, but....like the PS1 and Saturn era/generation, first wave 3D games just leave a horrible taste in my mouth. it brings back both good and bad memories. It was the beginning of the end for gaming, and it all happened during the mid to awful late 90's, not exactly a high time for moizy, coupled with dealing with the akward teenage years! :P

After the bitter bogus taste that was cruising around in my Mega dooder' mouth, i flipped on Super Mario World and i was instantly trasported into the wonderful world of NintenHeaven. :D I have no real desire to even build a N64 collection....It was cutting edge during it's day and i'd like to remember those games how they were during the time. I still wouldn't mind getting Zelda MM, OOT and maybe Golden Eye 007. But other than that, meh.

I cannot tolerate the N64 either. (I have the Gamecube disk with OOT and Master Quest and I can put up with that better. Still on a CRT).

Saturn 2D I want to start getting into though. (All the other versions of Megaman X4 look totally lifeless next to the Saturn one and stuff like Astal is about as good looking as 2D sprite based ever got. These days the best we ever seem to get is Neo Geo/CPS level and that is very rare).

I suppose the N64 being the only one that you cannot officially get RGB out of makes quite a difference.

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Joetherocker

65. Posted:

Probably SNES just barely beating out the 64, then the NES somewhere behind.

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unrandomsam wrote:

WaveBoy wrote:

So, I was plugging away at Mario 64 just a while ago on my smaller SDTV/retro set up and y'ouch!.....The N64 has aged even worse than i though it would. For the most part, even then 3D PS1 and N64 games were an absolute eye sore with a few or so notable exceptions(Resident Evil, Jumping Flash! Banjotooie, Yoshi's Story ect) sprinkled here and there. even then they were at times boarderline lifeless, with their blurry textured, low polygon characters and barren environments and much more so now. I feel like unhooking my N64 and throwing it in Storage for crying out cowabunga. :P Anybody else on the same page?

Mario 64 is one of the 'better' looking N64 games and it still plays wonderfully, but....like the PS1 and Saturn era/generation, first wave 3D games just leave a horrible taste in my mouth. it brings back both good and bad memories. It was the beginning of the end for gaming, and it all happened during the mid to awful late 90's, not exactly a high time for moizy, coupled with dealing with the akward teenage years! :P

After the bitter bogus taste that was cruising around in my Mega dooder' mouth, i flipped on Super Mario World and i was instantly trasported into the wonderful world of NintenHeaven. :D I have no real desire to even build a N64 collection....It was cutting edge during it's day and i'd like to remember those games how they were during the time. I still wouldn't mind getting Zelda MM, OOT and maybe Golden Eye 007. But other than that, meh.

I cannot tolerate the N64 either. (I have the Gamecube disk with OOT and Master Quest and I can put up with that better. Still on a CRT).

Saturn 2D I want to start getting into though. (All the other versions of Megaman X4 look totally lifeless next to the Saturn one and stuff like Astal is about as good looking as 2D sprite based ever got. These days the best we ever seem to get is Neo Geo/CPS level and that is very rare).

I suppose the N64 being the only one that you cannot officially get RGB out of makes quite a difference.

I just unhooked my N64 along with my game cube and threw them both in storage. :P My retro set up now just has an NES, VHS player, Sony Receiver, Empty slot for a future Atari 2600, plus an SNES, Wii & DVD player which are all hidden, because they don't gel with my 80's themed set up. ;)

If i really want to take a mid to late 90's trip and Go-N64, i'll just turn to the Wii's VC, same deal with Genesis games. The Wii's also backwards compatible with Gamecube games so i'm covered there for the purple little lunch box of NintenWonders.

Also, i had Astal back on the Saturn, which is quite possibly my favorite SS game, wonderful art direction, surreal soundtrack and solid gameplay, with Panzer Dragoon(Hasn't aged well at all, cutting edge in it's day though) ect ect. I don't get the lifeless comment though in regards to MMX4....looks beautiful on the PS1. What exactly did the saturn version do better?

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MuchoMochi wrote:

I think the N64's library gets a bad rap. It's probably the best it could be with all the third party companies leaving to jump onto the Playstation, or the ones that stayed that were getting acclimated to 3D gaming and didn't deliver (for an example see the Castlevania 64 games, atrocious in comparison the SOTN on the Playstation). The only genre you would expect in a console library those days it really lacks in is RPG's. It's got plenty of shooters, 3D platformers, sports games, great racing games, awesome party games, and it's a fun title to look for really obscure titles for. More often then not you'll see gamers talking about the same 15-20 titles off the system, and while there isn't many amazing stellar games there is a lot of fun to be had.

That being said, if you had to choose one It's still easily SNES. There is no gaps in the library of that system, it's the most satisfying game console I've ever owned and I didn't even grow up with it, I played my Uncle's a few times but my system was the N64 growing up. NES has to be appreciated for it's amazing library and starting franchises but I can't think of one facet where the NES beats the SNES. Every franchise that moved to 16 bit was better for it, and 16 bit is such a timeless look. 8 bit is very nostalgic but the games age pretty terribly to people who weren't around when it was relevant.

Every franchise that moved up to the SNES was better for it? I completely disagree.

Super Punch-Out!! i found was a major disappointment....It was then and it still is now. I was just playing it the other day and it's game play feels sloppy, almost confusing and less tactile than the more charming extremely fun NES original. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! and the Wii sequel completely destroy super Punch-Out no question.

Contra III: The Alien Wars? Meh....I much prefered the first Contra on the NES. The SNES sequel was plagued with those annoying overhead stages and i hated the entire post appocalyptic industrial settings.. Then there's Mega Man 2 on the NES which was just magical during the day, not even MMX can compete if you ask me. Super Mario Bros 2 was my favorite mario and even 3(majority will agree) to some degree was better than World. World was amazing no doubt, but it seems like it goes neck and neck with 3 quite often

Super Double dragon was too easy, Battletoads for the SNES sucked compared to the brutal NES original, and i had more fun playing TMNT II: The Arcade game vs Turtles in Time. Turtles in time was phenomenal no doubt, but i think by that point i had my share of beat em ups and it was getting a wee' bit stale, especially when sided with the release of TMNT II The 'Arcade' version.

SNES did Zelda, Final Fantasy and Metroid a lot better i'll give you that. ;)
As for castlevania, looking back.....I think i may of enjoyed III a little more than IV. IV's major flaw was the easy difficulty which was a first for the series.

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SpookyMeths

68. Posted:

SNES, and it's not even close. It still has one of the best software libraries in console history. I would actually rank both NES and N64 as lower tier Nintendo systems.

In retrospect, the N64 feels more like an early prototype of the Gamecube, in that everything the N64 did, the Gamecube simply did better. There are almost no games on the N64 that truly feel timeless and unique to me. They were made obsolete with the arrival of the Gamecube. And yes, the N64 controller is among the worst ever designed.

And honestly, did anyone have a NES that actually worked properly? Half of my memories of the system are that damn flashing green screen and blowing on cartridges. 8-bit graphics have also aged terribly. They're ugly as sin to look at now. The 16-bit graphics of Genesis and SNES both still look great today.

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Dreamz

69. Posted:

@Waveboy I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I thought Super Mario World was better than any Mario game on the NES. I also enjoyed Mega Man X 1 & 2 far more than any of the NES Mega Man titles. Donkey Kong Country was also a huge improvement over the original Donkey Kong.

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WaveyChristmas

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@Waveboy I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I thought Super Mario World was better than any Mario game on the NES. I also enjoyed Mega Man X 1 & 2 far more than any of the NES Mega Man titles. Donkey Kong Country was also a huge improvement over the original Donkey Kong.

I don't think it's fair to even compare DKCountry to NES DK, one's a platformer and the other is any early 80's Arcade based point racker. I never cared too much for the DKC games to be honest, aside from being dazzled by the visuals. Something about the game play and platforming felt cheap, as if it were an NES experience layered in cutting edge visuals compared to depth, controls and high precision based platforming is super mario world.

II:Diddy's Quest was a nice step up over the first though, but even then i still didn't care too much for it. As for Mega Man, i prefer the classic games by a landslide over the X series.....I like my Mega Man 8-bit and i love the roster of more humanoid robot masters vs the personality-less Animal/insect mavericks from the X series. I like the simplicity and cutsey nature of Classic, what can i say. As for mario, I still feel that SMB2/Doki Doki panic is better than any 'real' 2D mario game.

The throwing mechanics to me were more satisfying than hopping on a goomba, the different character traits were a huge plus, i loved the enemies that inhabited subcon, subcon itself was dreamy, quirky, surreal and just bizarre, the bosses were really neat(Birdo the egg spitting tranny dinosaur takes the nod, although Mouser was always my favorite) and it's hypnotizing soundtrack, ect ect i could go on and on. :P

The thing is, the NES was my introduction to gaming, and gave birth to all of these amazing franchises and was a big part of 80's culture which is why i love it so dearly. Not to mention, when the SNES came around the games started getting easier and that was a big no no in my masochistic-gamer books.

Edit: I was just playing a bit of Mickey Mouse's Magical Quest on the SNES.....not exactly as fun-ish as i remember it being. Mickey mouse has zero animation when you don't move him, he just sits there like a gawking paper cut out, where as in castle of illusion on the genesis he's rocking back in fourth and doing some neat lively things which makes the game feel more alive. I haven't gotten far into it, but castle of illusion has better controls and better music without a doubt! Neither of them can even come close though to the brilliance of Ducktales and even chip 'n Dale. ;)

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snes, it's a tough call between the nes and snes though

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72. Posted:

I would say N64 if you are interested in multiplayer. Many games were made for 2-4 players.
If you are doing single player most of the time, the SNES is the best choice, hands down.

The NES, as much as I loved it, has become dated. It's more of a relic, despite its many great games. It's great to play for nostalgia, but it doesn't carry the timelessness of the SNES software offerings.

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Lou

73. Posted:

SNES is the best, no questions asked. There are so many amazing games for you to play on it.
I do love the N64, but it doesn't have as much to it, and the NES I personally don't have that many fond memories of, so I can't recommend it all that much. Though it might be that I never owned any all that impressive games for it.

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LazyShell

74. Posted:

I'd have to go with SNES. It has a very well balanced library of games, and most genres that I can think of are covered on the system.

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75. Posted:

super nes here...

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76. Posted:

I would definitely start with the original NES and then go with the SNES and then Sega Genesis if I were to rebuild my retro gaming stash from scratch. There are so many games I wish I still had that I need to get back into the collection! In particular this NES:

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I grew up with the NES, but personally I think of the three the N64 has aged by far horribly and the SNES due to the advanced visual and audio qualities, plus the more refined games it has learning from the 8bit era really would be your best option by far. It's classic, but doesn't feel old or aged badly(n64.) The SNES has the most quality library to look into especially if you add in imports which play fine on it without adapters. The N64 library while having some good is super lacking and small, not much variety as third parties turned their backs to it so it totally lacks some types of games.

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NES and SNES were awesome then Nintendo really screwed up with the N64 and never recovered in the home console space.... You had to feel bad for those early N64 adopters who thought they'll be getting an experience similar to the SNES only to see franchises they strongly associated with the SNES to such as Final Fantasy, Mega Man and Street Fighter to completely jump ship to Playstation.....

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ferthepoet wrote:

NES and SNES were awesome then Nintendo really screwed up with the N64 and never recovered in the home console space.... You had to feel bad for those early N64 adopters who thought they'll be getting an experience similar to the SNES only to see franchises they strongly associated with the SNES to such as Final Fantasy, Mega Man and Street Fighter to completely jump ship to Playstation.....

Which is why i went with the PSX Instead, at least in the beginning.
N64 remains as the worst Nintendo Console, by a land slide. Even then, that 16-bit '3D 32-bit transition was rough for the post. There were only a handful of truly great titles. Unfortunately the PSX got a lot more and had far more variety and diversity in it's selection. If you were into Fighters(then again N64 had Smash Bros and hehe..clayfigher), RPGS, 2D Games and Sprite based 32-bit games and had an N64....You were screwed. ;)

N64 got Mega Man Legends.
PS1 got Legends, Legends 2, Mega Man 8, Mega Man X4, Mega Man X5 and Mega Man X6.

N64 got a sloppy port of Resident Evil 2
PS1 got Resident Evil, RE2 & RE3 Nemesis

ect.

However, the N64's controller was far more unique, The Rumble pack made it's awesome debut and it's analog stick which came out first crippled the dualshocks 'dual' loose sloppy unpresice mushroom tipped sticks. The PS1's 3D platforming arsenal could not compare to the fully 3D scoped worlds of lets say Mario 64.....There wasn't one PS1 game that gave off that feeling, range of control or felt truly 3D in comparison. And there wasn't a grand daddy multiplayer hit like Golden Eye 007 either ect.

Anyways, i have a love/hate relation ship with the PS1/N64 era.....a lot of the games just haven't aged well, even then some of them were boarder line lifeless. I really enjoyed the beginning of the 3D leap circa 95'-96 but towards the later 90's along with ze' awkward teenage years it all started to fall apart for me. :P

For most of us, our favorite console will always be our first, when were kids. there's usually no getting around it. At that age you've got it made, not a worry in the world, cartoons are pure magic and video games seemed absolutely jaw dropping, surreal and adventurous ect ect.
i'm truly grateful that i started out with the NES, although i wish i would of gotten mine a little earlier rather than 89'. then again, 88' was when the 2nd wave-quality NES games started pouring in, and by that time that was when we were seeing that leap in NES quality. Super Mario Bros 2 is the perfect example.

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WaveBoy wrote:

Which is why i went with the PSX Instead, at least in the beginning.
N64 remains as the worst Nintendo Console, by a land slide. Even then, that 16-bit '3D 32-bit transition was rough for the post. There were only a handful of truly great titles. Unfortunately the PSX got a lot more and had far more variety and diversity in it's selection. If you were into Fighters(then again N64 had Smash Bros and hehe..clayfigher), RPGS, 2D Games and Sprite based 32-bit games and had an N64....You were screwed. ;)

The N64 did have a couple of 2D games. Yoshi's Story and Mystic Makers comes to my mind.

It's funny saying the N64 was the worst Nintendo console, but I would say the only thing I was not a fan of was the controller. The PlayStation being similar to the SNES was a plus and much easier to hold. The console itself however had 4 controllers built in, which meant there were some some excellent 4-player games. This meant you didn't need a multi-tap and developers could easily program 4 players. Basically the opposite for the PlayStation and the PlayStation 2 (which there was no excuse at this point).

While what I'm about to discuss is not that impressive today, the N64 actually 4MB of RAM. Plus the Expansion Pack allowed an extra 4MB of RAM (8MB in total) which helped improve stuff like the resolution and textures (see Star Wars: Pod Racing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cCHkR1E490). The PlayStation only had 2MB, and this did cause some issues with developers.

Now while cartridges were expensive to produce by that time, it did meant there were no loading times and are still cool to own. However, they could only store around 4-16MB, compared to the CD of 700MB. SO you can see while developers jumped on to programming for the PlayStation. True, there were more titles, but it also had a lot more crap on there as well (Bubsy 3D, Sony can have garbage :P).

Can't forget the Transfer Pack. While it didn't get much support, the ability to transfer data from Pokémon, Mario Golf and Mario Tennis was impressive and still is today.

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