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NEStalgia

@Ryu_Niiyama Yep, 0, Kiwami, and Kiwami 2 are announced (and on Game Pass.) I expect that means the others will follow afterward as well, most likely. But, yeah, I also have the whole collection on PS4, yet to play it, and don't intend to rebuy it, at least not until it's crazy cheap in the future just so I can consolidate a bit. I'm trying to get PS to be only for exclusives and third party/legacy exclusives and XB/Switch for everything else. I've got to the point that after PS3 & 4 I already know PS is the "worst place to play" 3rd party "this is a PC game in disguise" games. Love the platform, but not where I'd play any multiplat if there's a choice.

@ThanosReXXX Of course. The question to be answered once it's in customer/critics hands is just how meaningful the BC effect will be for the price for early adopters. Yeah some games that were built like garbage like MHW would get a meaningful bump, but any game that already ran well, it could be anywhere from "hey the DF video shows some improvement, look at the numbers!" through "wow everything is so smooth compared to before!" That's where the early adopt or no difference comes in. Personally, I can't see early adoption for anything but Nintendo given launch woes in general unless not upgrading is locking me out of a game I just can't wait for. Technically Sony is more likely to have that situation than MS (I like Halo, but I'm kind of burned out on Halo, and never would I have bought a system for Halo... I still have most of FH3 left so I'm not ready for a new Forza either. An Obsdian RPG, Fable, etc could sway me. Otherwise I'll wait for black friday deals and the like. )

@redd214 FF7R Confirmed?! Holy heck it's like all my dreams become reality! Though that may or may not mean Scarlett-only by that time. Still.... Wonder if I can wait that long? That also means SFV isn't impossible.

I don't think Sony will ever be as willing to see their "big" franchises (not sports licensed) on outside platforms as MS is (and even MS isn't doing Gears/Halo/Forza outside their platforms yet.) But it's still a surreal moment.

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redd214

Untitled Goose Game will be on game pass next week

Also Xbox one X NBA 2K bundle is only $280 at Walmart right now. Better than BF pricing!!

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Ryu_Niiyama

@NEStalgia well game pass makes that easier (although I literally just bought Kiwami 2 on black Friday... it was the only thing I was missing). I am mostly working with my xbox one currently since my HDMI switch died and I can't be bothered to fix it since what little Twin gaming I'm doing is on a computer monitor, lol.

I do think that once I do get the next two boxes I'll go back to xbox as my secondary system rather than being stuck with ps4 because of street fighter lol. Depends on the fighting game setup by then anyway. Here is seriously hoping that SFVI is multi plat and that includes whatever Nintendo has out. I have to buy it at twice for my meet up anyway but would prefer it on the switch/switch 2/super switch/whatever. Agreed, PS has always been my exclusive box, but I got a little stuck with the 4 because it had to become my new fighting game box, so I ended up buying more than my norm on it (but still way less than PS3 or PS2). Granted, the last major release I've bought for either was AC:This is Sparta edition so shrugs.

I think I'm going to keep gamepass though for the duration of the next box and stock pile on the games with gold (unless they make it worse ) while I wait on scarlett to either get a revision or drop to 200.

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DarthNocturnal

redd214 wrote:

Untitled Goose Game will be on game pass next week

+1 “woulda waited for a sale before I played it but it's now on Game Pass“ game.

I hope they do add Control for real.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Of course it will be about the new games on offer for some, but for me personally, it will be about the complete package, and if that package allows me to migrate my entire Xbox One catalog and experience to the new console AND play all of them in improved versions, then (provided you're staying with Microsoft/Xbox) why wouldn't you want that?

So, you don't have to have finished certain games, because you can simply continue where you left off, on the new platform. That's basically also the whole idea behind Phil Spencer's philosophy for the platform.

And as for those improved versions of games, I'm simply thinking along the lines of the difference between the One S and One X-enhanced versions of games, which in quite a few of them, is a considerable upgrade, so in that case as well, why wouldn't someone want that?

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NEStalgia

@Ryu_Niiyama Hey, don't knock playing on a monitor. Some of us only play with a monitor pressed to our eye(s)!

Part of my sentiment toward PS4 is no doubt that Sony forgot it existed a year and a half ago and only pays minor tribute to it now and then between PS FIVE!!1 hyping. PS4 almost feels like it shared the fate of the WiiU despite being the market leader. At least MS has kept driving X1X sales as though they actually care about current products as much as future products. XO19 felt like "it's a great time to join in and buy an X1X!" State of Play feels like "Sure, we'll cater to some retro current gen stuff...whatevs. Pfft." They were both exciting 2 years ago. So far it looks positive that SFVI would be multiplat. Not sure if Tekken could bother themselves to optimize for XBox though. That poor game looks so rough on X1. I'm stuck in the PS ecosystem for Persona and Ys alone, though.

@ThanosReXXX Well, for you, you don't have a 1X so, yeah, I'd jump on Scarlett day 1 too! That's going to be a tremendous leap for you. From 1X to Scarlett, though, purely for BC & X1 BC games, not new upcoming Scarlett focused games, I'm waiting to see how significant a difference it makes. (It's not a debate about whether to get Scarlett, it's about "ZOMG DAY ONEE!!" versus "meh, I'm good with the X for the next 3 years until the price drops."

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Grumblevolcano

For me how well the console runs existing games and the OS will be more important than the new games. I want Scarlett to be a full replacement for my XB1, not like the XB1 where it's only a partial replacement for 360.

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Street Fighter VI ?! 😮

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NEStalgia

@Grumblevolcano Can't think of any reason it won't be a full X1 replacement. 1X already ran existing games very well since the games were specced for OG 1 by necessity.

360 to 1 just had the same problem as WiiU to Switch - incompatible architecture.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Right now, I'm wondering two things: should I speak more slowly next time, and did he remove his dense filter before reading my comment?

But all joking aside: that was EXACTLY my point. And seeing as I have actually played on an X (my best friend has one), I know full well what the difference in fidelity and smoothness of playback is.

So, my point was that IF the Scarlett's power upgrade is a 1:1 copy of the One X where it concerns it's comparison to the S, effectively making the X the Scarlett's S, then it IS worth the upgrade, both for new adapters AND existing owners, because you can do and play everything that you can now do on the X, except far better and probably with a similar leap in graphic fidelity and smoothness in gameplay as when going from the S to the X. (if not more, seeing as they've reportedly also fine-tuned the architecture a bit more this time)

I hope you get it this time, because I can't explain it any clearer than that...

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NEStalgia

@ThanosReXXX The only thing of debate there is that because the older games were individually hand-"ported" to BC on the 1X, a lot of them were brought from some pretty rudimentary forms on the 360/OG and brought up to date with using PC assets, resolution bumps, etc. With 360 games they're kind of at their upper limit on the X for the resources, and for One games, the X was already giving them resolution and frame rate bumps versus the base 1X, so it's yet to be seen if "double, triple, or 500x the power" is of substantial benefit versus 1X when running X1, X360, or OG XB games. The dramatic effect of a resolution bump and asset enhancement isn't really a thing from X to Scarlett as it was from 360 to X.

@redd214 I'll definitely be trying the much spoken of UGG since it's on GP now!

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Grumblevolcano

@NEStalgia "How well" is very important. For example, the MCC release of Halo Reach a week ago is the first time a version of Halo Reach has run well on XB1 (the 360 version runs worse on XB1 than 360). Another good example is how some OG Xbox games didn't run well on 360.

So yeah, there's 3 key parts to a Scarlett purchase for me:
1. All games I can play on XB1 are playable on Scarlett
2. These games run at least as well as they do on XB1 (preferably better of course)
3. The OS is good, unlike XB1

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NEStalgia

@Grumblevolcano i think #1 is a given.... Probably #2 too.

The OS will be Windows 10 just like x1.... So good luck with that.

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Ryu_Niiyama

I don’t mind the win 10 underpinnings but the design of the xbone os is terrible and I really wish they’d declutter it or allow the user to do so.

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BlueOcean

Just posting to let people know how awesome Xbox One X games look on a good 4K HDR TV (LG C9). This week I started playing Final Fantasy XV Royal Edition after watching the film on X too and also the cartoon Brotherhood on YouTube. The cartoon is great and the film much better than I expected after having watched the Final Fantasy VII film. The game starts quite slow but now I'm liking it and it reminds me a lot of Xenoblade Chronicles X which I loved (I called it best original Wii U game and far better the Breath of the Wild).

The other games look awesome too, the differences between Crash Team Racing on X and Switch are astronomical, yes I have both versions.

Since no link has been posted here here you are:

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/1215145/Final-...

It says that FFVII is a PS one-year exclusive just like FFX and FFXII before it.

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Justifier

I can deal with FFVII being one-year exclusive, because I was prepared that I could not play it at all (I don't have PS4). I am just a little worried, because FFVII is my all time favorite game, and I know that when they change things (even for the better) I don't like these changes.
But if it comes to Xbox I will give it a go.

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@Justifier I suspected that it would come to Xbox One like all the others and, who knows, perhaps we get a more complete edition that would reach PS4 eventually, like what has occurred to other ports. @NEStalgia had to say, Yes, BlueOcean was right, even VII is coming to Xbox.

When Final Fantasy X/X-II was released it said "On PlayStation Only" on the cover (I got this one for PS4) but when they released XII I waited for the Xbox version, the PS4 cover didn't read "On PlayStation Only" and X/X-II had been released on Xbox. XII came to Xbox One/Windows one year later too.

Now all the main FF games after VI and the main MMORPG FF game are coming to Xbox and even to Game Pass while some of them are not available on PS4. Square Enix has finally welcomed Microsoft with open arms. And I really love this because Xbox is the future-friendliest platform and we've seen this with all the free Xbox One X remasters and Xbox One backwards compatibility.

If I remember correctly they said that FFVII Remake will feature action and turn-based combat so the player can choose. That alone makes it quite interesting and it looks gorgeous, too!

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NEStalgia

@Ryu_Niiyama I always tell everyone it's the best UI design of all the consoles, once you realize you're not supposed to use the Home menu/"desktop", ever, at all, no matter what, period. It's just wallpaper. The real UI happens on the "start menu"/Guide menu, and it's actually easily the best of all the systems. At least if you organize all your games into category folders. By series importance. And color. Because OCD demands it.

@BlueOcean grumblegrumble

I'm just thrilled about FFVIIR being confirmed at all. Newer FF tends to play best on XB for some reason. Old FF still seems "right" on PS, but in part because they really designed some gimmicks around those controllers specifically. XV also featured "action and turn-based so the player can choose" and look how that turned out. But VIIR looks more "proper" to me.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Man, you're a tough nut to crack. Or just a nut, albeit a very nerdy one...

The thing is, I wasn't talking about going from Xbox 360 to the One or to Scarlett, I was mainly talking about games that were native to the Xbox One, like Halo 5, which when played on the X, offers a considerable upgrade on several levels/aspects. According to Phil Spencer, they've managed to fine-tune their newest platform to take full benefit of everything that has come before, so all that now runs smoothly and looks good or better on Xbox One X, will run even smoother and look even better on Scarlett. Of course, according to Spencer, so arguably not a given yet, but it would be rather stupid of him to fling such claims into the ether, and then not make good on them. And he isn't really known for talking out of his back end, so I'll take his word for it, for now, or until proven otherwise.

And aside from that, the jump in fidelity and/or smoothness will probably of a similar grade as going from One S to One X, so I don't know why you wouldn't notice and/or be impressed with that or interested in that. Of course, for the people that never had and X or had the chance to play on one like I did, the step from the lowly S to the Scarlett will be a double and so even far more impressive one, but that doesn't take anything away from the improvements that the people that will migrate from the X will experience, even though that's of course a smaller step up.

@Grumblevolcano I think we can safely assume that we're going to be covered on points 1 and 2, because that was and is kind of the whole point behind Scarlett, and the drive/motivation of the Xbox team. Point 3 is up for debate, but largely because aesthetics and such are often times also personal preference. Personally, I don't have any issues whatsoever with the Xbox One's operating system or menu features, but I can understand that not everybody shares that opinion.

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