Topic: Modern Remake of Ocarina of Time (à la FF VII Remake)

@Grumblevolcano That's a good point, "DLSS 4K" versions of BOTW and TOTK and spin offs would help fill out the calendar.

I wonder if they will do something big in 2026? That's the 40th anniversary year.

@StuTwo @kkslider5552000 Yeah no, the notion that TP is a "modern remake" of OoT is pretty laughable TBH. It shares a few vague elements such as a similar level design structure and some locations that share the same/similar names and themes, but that's not enough to call it a remake. Pretty much every Zelda game does that. What, do you want to call OoT a "3D remake" of ALttP because it reuses locations like Kakariko Village, Death Mountain, and Lake Hylia and has a sage quest? Or ALttp a "modern remake" of Zelda 1 for reusing similar areas (some of those areas tend to be reused pretty much EVERY game, but that's where the similarities end because they're basically only the same in name only). The only new game you could call a remake of another really is ALBW. That's pretty blatantly meant to be a pseudo-remake of ALttP because its similarities are FAR more specific, such as a similar map with the same locations, similar characters, similar bosses, similar story elements, and even the name references that the game is basically "remake of ALttP but not really". But TP or any other game? No, that's going way too far.

Now if they wanted to give OoT the ALBW treatment itself... I wouldn't really be opposed to that. But they have to do more than just recycle the same old areas we see in every Zelda game. The story needs to be relatively similar (with Link growing up in Kokiri Forest believing he's one of them, going out to find the Spiritual Stones and later the sages, while preventing Ganondorf from trying to reach the Sacred Realm), the time travel gimmick needs to be there (possibly with a new gimmick layered on), many of the characters, dungeons and bosses need to be relatively similar. When people want an OoT remake, they want those kinds of aspects SPECIFICALLY to be remade, not just a recycling of the same things that we see in every Zelda game. We've had far too many Zelda games that do the same to the point where if that was enough for them, they'd just say they wanted those games instead of an OoT remake specifically.

See this is what happens when you can't not take people completely literally with their wording. Also what happens when you lose internet for 3 days and can't reply to anyone. TP is obviously not LITERALLY an OOT remake, but it is obviously trying to be the most like OOT out of any post-OOT Zelda game (including any game after it, 2D games included). I don't remember the exact wording, but they straight up said something along the likes of that they made TP based on what the fans wanted rather than what they thought would be the best or most inventive game idea. Which was another OOT instead of a Zelda game with a gimmick that dramatically changed it and risked making it harder for people who specifically liked OOT and maybe only OOT to fully get into. (or at least the most basic idea of what Zelda is, based on what OOT was, based on what people thought the first GCN Zelda would've been based on that long forgotten Space World demo, without too risky a gimmick or controversial an art style change).

Not all of that is literal, but anyone who looked generally at discussions of Zelda in the mid 2000s would know that's the vibe TP was going for (without being SO blatant as to feel entirely unoriginal, because the Zelda team still have dignity). But the gameplay's more familiar, it feels like visually and in some ways tonally the most of a darker continuation of where OOT was going (even if the cool kids who had actual patience to get past the initial Clock Town sequence know that Majora's Mask is already that). That's why its adult link in a darker, less colorful setting, where dark things happen, and you get Epona but know with more combat, and you go to the forest, death mountain and water dungeon in that exact order before the plot twist part, by doing the most Zelda things you expect outside of the parts where you're interrupted to do a 20 or so minute sequence as a wolf, but don't worry because you have this cool dark character, you're a cool wolf, this isn't a bright colorful cartoon for children like Wind Waker, we're cool! (please buy our new console even if our Wii Sports gamble doesn't pay off)

@kkslider5552000 That's fair, but that's also not OoT. The changes are far too drastic to the point where they're more like Easter Eggs than a recognizable inspiration. There's completely different locations, completely different characters (heck even some of OoT's entire RACES such as the Kokiri or Gerudo), and different gimmicks/themes. TP has similar vibes to OoT for sure but it doesn't go any further than that, it's largely its own thing. That's not really enough to satisfy the demand for a remake/reimagining of OoT.

I think, and this is definitely true with my desire for a remake/reimagining of OoT, when people want to see OoT again they want to see those kinds of things. They don't just want to see the usual suspects like Hyrule Field, Kakariko Village, or Death Mountain, but some of the locations more specific to OoT such as Kokiri Forest, Goron City, or Gerudo Valley. They want to see the same or similar dungoens such as the Great Deku Tree, Dodongo's Cavern, and the various temples. They want the same or similar characters such as the sages, Sheik, and Malon. Same or similar bosses, same or similar items. Again, if they want to do this with a new game rather than significantly changing OoT, it'd be better to look at how ALBW improved upon ALttP, not how TP improved upon OoT. ALBW was pretty clearly meant to be a pseudo-remake of ALttP and the similarities were everywhere, giving OoT a similar treatment might be pretty well received. IIRC, ALBW was pretty well received even if it's not quite as iconic as its predecessor.