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bixente

I'm pretty terrible at this game. Most of my wins online have come against complete beginners. I can tell right away if I've got a chance, or if my opponent will crush me... I actually prefer simple class, without the gimmicks. I have a better record in that mode, and the matches there tend to produce more exciting rallies, from my experience. Unfortunately It's not as popular as standard class, so it can be difficult to find an opponent at times.

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Snaplocket

@Maxz He has a point that people kinda go overboard on expecting so much from what's clearly a multiplayer game and thinking they mastered everything right away.

Edited on by Snaplocket

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Grumblevolcano

@Snaplocket Not really, there used to be plenty of games that were clearly multiplayer focused yet still had a lot of single player content. Nowadays multiplayer focused generally means virtually no single player.

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Snaplocket

@Grumblevolcano Online multiplayer kinda destroyed the need for compelling single player. Also, no home console Mario Tennis game had much single player content.

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HobbitGamer

@bixente I’ve been playing Simple online and also have more fun that way. I had a 25 minute match last night that was neck and neck all the way

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MarsManu

Why does motion control always turn itself on automatically sometimes? This is really annoying and can ruin a match. Even though I deactivated it in the menu it's still active sometimes. Can anyone help?

MarsManu

rallydefault

@Grumblevolcano
Name some of those games, please.

/rant begin - You don't want a rant from me? Fine, don't read this post.

Mario Tennis games NEVER had a ton of purely single-player focused content. A lot of this "Aces isn't worth the 60 bucks" is TOTALLY a result of our current messed-up, spoiled gaming culture. When Mario Tennis came out on the 64 it didn't have an adventure mode. It had tournaments and ring challenges as far as the single-player stuff went.

These insane (to me) arguments recently about pricing of games is going to lead to the downfall of our hobby, mark my words. It's no longer enough for a game (like Aces) to have fantastic and addictive gameplay spread across multiple modes both single and multi-player and for the publisher to ask 60 bucks. No. Like I said before, a game today has to check all of these ridiculous boxes of (to me) stupid, repetitive things that gamers have come to expect simply because a Far Cry or Assassin's Creed game did it and sold well.

I mean, even look at Mario Odyssey's outfits - they're skins. They're skins, people. Just like in any other game on any other platform, and it will give players the illusion of added game time and, supposedly hence, increases the accepted asking price to the game in the culture's current messed-up mindset.

I beat Odyssey in around 10 hours (maybe even fewer, actually). Now, you guys who are all up in arms about pricing recently - is 10 hours worth 60 bucks? And no, I don't give a duck's behind about the skins, so I'm not going back to get them. So by your logic, I say that Mario Odyssey is not a 60 dollar game.

See how insane this line of reasoning gets? It makes devs afraid to make anything not full of garbage time wasting stuff. It makes publishers afraid to take risks on making bigger games that are by all means fantastic to play but perhaps short or don't offer fifteen thousand towers to climb to reveal portions of the map. It destroys the whole hobby, ultimately.

I'm not saying that it's fine for games to never evolve or to stay exactly how they were in the 90s and 2000s. What I'm saying is that great, engaging gameplay never gets old, and the "asking price" has, is, and will always be in the eyes of each individual beholder. To conflate and inflate the pricing thing like it has any basis in a factual system or must check certain boxes is to walk down a terrible, terrible path for this hobby.

/rant over

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Grumblevolcano

@rallydefault Melee, Brawl, some of the Halo games (especially Halo 3), F-Zero X, F-Zero GX, Diddy Kong Racing, Sonic & SEGA All Stars Racing, Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed, SEGA Superstar Tennis, Goldeneye 007, 007 Nightfire, the majority of the Rock Band franchise, etc.

Most of these were before the existence of online multiplayer so like @Snaplocket was saying, the reduction of single player content in multiplayer games is generally a result of online multiplayer.

I don't expect some super long adventure mode from a tennis game but Mario Tennis Aces has other problems like limited options outside adventure mode. You can only play a maximum of 1 set matches, you can't choose what courts you play on, unlocks are limited, etc.

Grumblevolcano

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MarsManu

Nobody can help me? Is this only for me that motion control activated itself automatically randomly?

MarsManu

Judi

@MarsManu I'm not sure about all modes, but at least for online multiplayer I think you need to remember to toggle the setting each time you start a tournament. Unless you're talking about how it'll randomly be set wrong for a single match every once and a while, because I run into that where it will disable my motion controls randomly (and it sucksss).

Currently procrastinating on: implementing virtual memory and synchronization.
Currently distracted with: Mario Tennis Aces

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rallydefault

@Grumblevolcano
All of those games you mentioned have single player "campaigns" (for some of them that term is very loose) that can be completed in 8 hours or less. Some much less. I've actually played most of those games, too, and I greatly enjoy many of them.

Thank you for your post, but I feel it demonstrates exactly what I was saying. The other issues you have with Aces are some that I share and are also issues that would be very easy for Nintendo to patch. Hopefully they will.

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Judi

It's so satisfying to beat someone playing fairly adeptly as Bowser Jr. with a character that's underused like Luigi.

Currently procrastinating on: implementing virtual memory and synchronization.
Currently distracted with: Mario Tennis Aces

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Snaplocket

@Judi Speaking of which, there's NO ONE using Wario, Donkey Kong, or Spike. Yet there are many Bowser and Chain Chomp users. (Come to think of it, five power characters seems a bit much)

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Judi

@Snaplocket I played against a Wario and it was kinda funny because of how weird his moves are lol. I think for power characters most people stick to those two because Bowser I think has the strongest shots and Chain Chomp is new and cool and we all love him. I'm not the best judge on them because I find them really limited, and they're easy to play against so long as you account for the shot knock back. Also too many power player play at the net and I don't know why because lobs freakin kill them.

Currently procrastinating on: implementing virtual memory and synchronization.
Currently distracted with: Mario Tennis Aces

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Snaplocket

@Judi To be honest, I completely forgot Donkey Kong was even playable. Is that weird?

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-Juice-

You know, the motion controls in this game are very disappointing. I expected something more responsive. It feels like I have to fight against the game itself, and the way charge up shots work makes it even more annoying tbh.

Don't get me wrong, the game is a wonderful single player experience, but as a party game...? You're going to have a lot of people that feel like the game is playing them instead of them playing it.

Edited on by -Juice-

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Snaplocket

Anyway, here's my rundown on the characters not included in the demo. If anyone wants a full list, I might make a separate thread.

Daisy: Essentially a stronger but slower and less accurate Peach. Great control and solid power, but speed and reach are both meh.

Luigi: Mario version 1.5. The only difference between him and his brother is that Luigi has slightly better reach in exchange for a little less power.

Donkey Kong and Wario: These two feel the same as Bowser but with less power in exchange for more speed and control respectively.

Boo: The ultimate one-trick pony. Slices and even topspins are nasty but the trade-off is EVERYTHING ELSE. Lousy reach, average speed, one of the weakest hitters, terrible lunge, yada yada yada.

Toadette: Similar to Toad but with less speed in exchange for much better control (second best in the game), great spin (best behind the tricky characters) but is both one of the weakest hitters and has terrible reach.

Bowser Jr.: His reach doesn't feel as good as Waluigi's although that's probably because he has a much larger model. Has better speed and power then Waluigi in exchange for worse control.

Out of all the characters, I like Peach and Rosalina the most but sometimes I play as someone else for variety. Keep in mind most of these guys I only played once or twice.

Edited on by Snaplocket

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Henmii

Lol: The evil racket is called Lucienne. That must be a reference from The walking dead, namely the bat called Lucille!

As for the game, I only played it slightly so far. My very early impression is that this is yet another "cutting corners" job from Nintendo (okay, made by Camelot. But Nintendo dictated them). I mean: All the characters unlocked from the start (minus the update ones of course), no reason to do all the cups with all the characters since it doesn't show in any way, no ring-shot (though that may be part of the adventure mode). To be honest, I mainly bought it for the adventure mode. Hopefully that brings the goodness!

Henmii

ValhallaOutcast

@Henmii to me it’s a pure multiplayer game, closer to a fighting game than anything else

I like that I don’t have to grind to get the basic opening roster, they can and I am sure will add characters either by dlc or unlocking them

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bixente

Henmii, if you bought it for the adventure mode, pretty sure you'll be disappointed. Online is great though.

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