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grumblegrumble

Just wanted to create a topic for this game because i thought the rating given was very low. Sure, it's not gonna change the world or anything but this game is great if you like retro 80's/90's video gaming. It's well put together and you basically see how fast you can tap one button or a series of buttons as quickly as possible within the given time limit. You can then autograph your highest scores and keep trying to beat yourself or friends. If you're A-D-D like me you'll love this It's actually not half bad. I had never heard of the original game (or, controller, if you can call it that) and this is done very well here. For what it is, I give it a 7/10. Could have been more but for 200 coins what more do you expect. I haven't unlocked the "slot" games yet, but there are also 2 locked "slot machine" style games that you can play in the same fashion as above. Anybody else disagree with the review given here on Nintendo Life? I thought it was kind of harsh. For what this 'game' sets out to do, it does it well.

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I don't know, if you read the rating system on this site, it's hard to tell what this "game" should get. I would prefer if the rating system actually considered several criteria and graded a game on it, because the rating system seems a bit arbitrary, especially at the low end of the scale. I think games that get 2/10 on sites, it's often based purely on the subjective enjoyment (I'm pretty floored that Bit.Trip Runner got a 2/10 and Art Style Rotozoa got a 4/10 elsewhere), but a 2/10 might be warranted for this because it does sound pretty basic and unappealing. True, you probably shouldn't expect much more for 200 points, but some of the 200 point games are setting a pretty high standard for what we can expect.

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grumblegrumble

iphys wrote:

I don't know, if you read the rating system on this site, it's hard to tell what this "game" should get. I would prefer if the rating system actually considered several criteria and graded a game on it, because the rating system seems a bit arbitrary, especially at the low end of the scale. I think games that get 2/10 on sites, it's often based purely on the subjective enjoyment (I'm pretty floored that Bit.Trip Runner got a 2/10 and Art Style Rotozoa got a 4/10 elsewhere), but a 2/10 might be warranted for this because it does sound pretty basic and unappealing. True, you probably shouldn't expect much more for 200 points, but some of the 200 point games are setting a pretty high standard for what we can expect.

Very good point. I think it deserves a higher score though. You can tell they put work into it and I think it's more fun than alot of past 200 point games I've played. I think the best 200 point game would have to be Pop Island: Paperfield, though.

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Zach

As the reviewer who assigned that score, I can say that I gave it a 2/10 score based on both the usefulness and enjoyment I saw in the application. At the end of the day, it's just an opinion, but we try to be very fair in our judgments. Not only that, but a team of editors reviews our scores and sees if they correlate with what we said about the game in the review. A lot of work goes into it - at the same time, though, one should never judge a game based solely on the score. That's why in my review, I mentioned people who I thought might find enjoyment in Shooting Watch, like that guy on YouTube.

With this type of thing, a portion of the score has to do with whether the application does what it sets out to do. And Shooting Watch does this admirably... but should that be enough? What if a game was called "Screaming and Blinking" and all it did was scream and blink at you? That's an exaggeration, but even though it does what it advertises it would not receive a good score, I think. Now, 16 Shot is basically an emulation of something from a long time ago. If today, Hudson wanted to release a tool to help train people in how to click quickly and get higher scores, they could take advantage of all the technology of today. Instead, they've simply ported this outdated tool. Sure, it's still got kitch and nostalgia value, but should that be enough? Well, in case it is for some, I mentioned it in the review - another reason not to simply go by the score. So, in the end, it's an emulation of an outdated tool (that may not have had any purpose in the first place) with no updates or advancements and that simply counts the amount of times that you click a button. It aims to do something overly simplistic and with questionable utility and it succeeds. Of course, if it were free it would be fine, and it comes free with Adventure Island: The Beginning (I believe it's called).

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grumblegrumble

zkaplan wrote:

As the reviewer who assigned that score, I can say that I gave it a 2/10 score based on both the usefulness and enjoyment I saw in the application. At the end of the day, it's just an opinion, but we try to be very fair in our judgments. Not only that, but a team of editors reviews our scores and sees if they correlate with what we said about the game in the review. A lot of work goes into it - at the same time, though, one should never judge a game based solely on the score. That's why in my review, I mentioned people who I thought might find enjoyment in Shooting Watch, like that guy on YouTube.

With this type of thing, a portion of the score has to do with whether the application does what it sets out to do. And Shooting Watch does this admirably... but should that be enough? What if a game was called "Screaming and Blinking" and all it did was scream and blink at you? That's an exaggeration, but even though it does what it advertises it would not receive a good score, I think. Now, 16 Shot is basically an emulation of something from a long time ago. If today, Hudson wanted to release a tool to help train people in how to click quickly and get higher scores, they could take advantage of all the technology of today. Instead, they've simply ported this outdated tool. Sure, it's still got kitch and nostalgia value, but should that be enough? Well, in case it is for some, I mentioned it in the review - another reason not to simply go by the score. So, in the end, it's an emulation of an outdated tool (that may not have had any purpose in the first place) with no updates or advancements and that simply counts the amount of times that you click a button. It aims to do something overly simplistic and with questionable utility and it succeeds. Of course, if it were free it would be fine, and it comes free with Adventure Island: The Beginning (I believe it's called).

I understand that's your opinion, and probably the opinion of the majority of gamers out there today. Me, having grown up in the 80's and probably older than most on here, like retro emulation titles such as this and the Game & Watch series released recently. I may be in the minority but I still love it

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iphys

Hmmm, apparently if you buy Adventure Island the Beginning, you don't exactly get the 16-shot shooting watch, but you get something similar called Rapid Fire Ruins that actually has online leaderboards (although it looks like people have found some crazy tricks since the leader scored 23.3 taps/second). Anyway, definitely sounds like a better deal to spend 800 points and get an actual game.

http://www.hudson.co.jp/ww/adventureisland/usa/s/ww_game4_01....

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iphys wrote:

Hmmm, apparently if you buy Adventure Island the Beginning, you don't exactly get the 16-shot shooting watch, but you get something similar called Rapid Fire Ruins that actually has online leaderboards (although it looks like people have found some crazy tricks since the leader scored 23.3 taps/second). Anyway, definitely sounds like a better deal to spend 800 points and get an actual game.

http://www.hudson.co.jp/ww/adventureisland/usa/s/ww_game4_01....

Seems like a lot of trouble to get a tapping minigame though. I think if ppl want 16 shot they will just purchase that, I doubt people will purchase Adventure Island just for the tapping game! LOL. More than likely, they are just purchasing Adventure Island for that game itself. I'm not saying 16 Shot is a great game by any means, I just beg to differ regarding the 2/10 score.

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sonic_brawler95

I would actually buy this game if the leader boards were online.

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